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February 01, 2020, 05:55:52 PM
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Anyway it is true, we need education and the government giving it to us but the education that they are teaching is not relevant anymore. There is a specific article that I read about education that should be updated every 12 years. Most of the governments are still relying in old curriculum. I do not say that we do not learn from school but the information that we are getting is sometimes useless because it is not relevant anymore. The best way to become knowledgeable in different areas of expertise is by getting many experiences in real world and it is not taught in the school.

Or rather, it can be said that so far the government has forgotten to predict far ahead after we graduate whether the knowledge we have is still relevant or not. An example of what happened was a curriculum update for basic computer lessons was only given after the incessant industrial revolution 4.0. In fact, basic computer lessons should have been given 5 or 10 years ago as compulsory lessons to welcome the industrial revolution 4.0. If it only starts now after people are computer literate, the era has changed to AI, and computer science is of little use.

Speaking of economics which since 1971 has been dominated by Keynesian thinking whose thinking is identical to inflation, the central bank, and its flagship products are Bretton Woods and the IMF. Many scientists argue that "don't let the developed world and a group of people teach something that really aims to perpetuate the problem not to solve the problem".

Many people believe that the IMF did not improve the country's economy but further worsened the country's economic conditions. The Keynesian habit is that if you don't have money the solution is just debt. when America had experienced the crisis of 2008 and the destruction of banks, it could be considered that the old Keynesian economic theory was obsolete and neo-liberal theory was no longer relevant because it proved unable to resolve the world order and the evidence of America even though printing money without their underlying did not experience inflation like other countries.

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February 02, 2020, 08:07:52 AM
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Personally, my development as a person began as early as 13 years old. Apart from the school curriculum, I was interested in various topics that I studied in my free time. The school didn't help me in this. The only plus of the school for me was communication and friends, who are still my best friends!

You are right that school is not always taught the real education it is just their name. We get our original education from family and friends What we teach from small to old will be boring And this is the real education the family provides.

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February 02, 2020, 03:34:25 PM
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Anyway it is true, we need education and the government giving it to us but the education that they are teaching is not relevant anymore. There is a specific article that I read about education that should be updated every 12 years. Most of the governments are still relying in old curriculum. I do not say that we do not learn from school but the information that we are getting is sometimes useless because it is not relevant anymore. The best way to become knowledgeable in different areas of expertise is by getting many experiences in real world and it is not taught in the school.

Or rather, it can be said that so far the government has forgotten to predict far ahead after we graduate whether the knowledge we have is still relevant or not. An example of what happened was a curriculum update for basic computer lessons was only given after the incessant industrial revolution 4.0. In fact, basic computer lessons should have been given 5 or 10 years ago as compulsory lessons to welcome the industrial revolution 4.0. If it only starts now after people are computer literate, the era has changed to AI, and computer science is of little use.

Speaking of economics which since 1971 has been dominated by Keynesian thinking whose thinking is identical to inflation, the central bank, and its flagship products are Bretton Woods and the IMF. Many scientists argue that "don't let the developed world and a group of people teach something that really aims to perpetuate the problem not to solve the problem".

Many people believe that the IMF did not improve the country's economy but further worsened the country's economic conditions. The Keynesian habit is that if you don't have money the solution is just debt. when America had experienced the crisis of 2008 and the destruction of banks, it could be considered that the old Keynesian economic theory was obsolete and neo-liberal theory was no longer relevant because it proved unable to resolve the world order and the evidence of America even though printing money without their underlying did not experience inflation like other countries.

Well said. Many teenager has been ignored and left to rotten since the last subprime crisis, many teenage lost their life purpose, however there is only a few some that’s still fighting, they are commonly found in crypto community, some of the well known crypto leader, Winklevoss , Tim Draper, Vitalik Butterin, Charlie Lee, Jihan Wu etc. They are still fighting for a life, while the Potus do almost nothing to help them. Look at the Japanese youth girls, they are so lost that they are willing to be rotten to post nude on the twitter every single day, and begging everyone to bang them for free, even accept to send you nude for free, and willing to pose any position to satisfy your fetish, they’re rotten to the core because they’re so lost that they didn’t even want to join the crypto currency and fight for a life. Remember 99% of the youth today are simply lost their mind, only those 1% are still fighting albeit on the crypto space and nobody can see it directly. Are the future generation share the same fate? I believe the next generation will not only post nude on the twitter, they would go as far as go to your home and getting bang for free, and wandering the entire city looking for getting laid. Crazy thinking?

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Let’s reassessing what the crypto leader do in the past ten years and what they had been fighting for. Many people may have indulge themselves into the crypto bull run and clouded by the money and totally forget about the anger they once have that drive them to start the crypto fiasco. Charlie Lee didn’t get a job but work for the crypto since then, and the crypto give him the purpose. Vitalik didn’t even brother to finish his school because he saw the dawn are waiting for him upon graduation, and he is very vocal about fighting the purpose of the crypto, may be they haven’t lost their mind yet, but not so lucky for the rest of his peer, the rest of his peer especially Japanese youth women may not be so smart, and they didn’t even have the intelligent prowess to fight along with the crypto community, they have already gave up and decide to give into the fate and rot accordingly to the social order that’s ruled by the elite, many Japanese youth since December 2017 begin to whore themselves in a huge group on the their personal twitter, the number is growing fast in parabolic in recent year, they’re not as rebellious as the Satoshi/Charlie Lee/Edward Snowden/Julian Assange/ the earlier adopter generation, many may wonder what is the growing number of crackhead Japanese youth girls signifying, and the hidden danger of this unusual phenomena, it’s more of a wild guess, but let’s make some conspiracy ahead of this growing trend shall we?

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February 02, 2020, 06:02:19 PM
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I've worked as a teacher for a year and I wouldn't say that shool is a waste of time. Especially the primary school. You can comparehow important it is by putting an average European next to an average person from Africa, where even primary education is lacking. Some of those people from Africa and the Middle East moved to Germany and here's the result:
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Problems were particularly evident among students who have to attend so-called “literacy courses” because they lack reading and writing skills. The proportion of participants taking these types of courses has now reached 22 percent. 

School is supposed to teach you how to learn, give you the basics and allow you to expand your knowledge. It teaches you how to read and write, how to speak in foreign languages, how to count and fill forms, how to write letters and applitactions. All good schools do that and without it you'll be lost in the modern world. Who cares about Tinder and social media, what is important is for you to be able to compile knowledge on your own, learn how to tackle problems, how to analyse situation and adapt. It teaches you to work on your own at home, it teaches you to work in a group of peers.

There'a many things I'd change, but that doesn't undermine the basic function of schools. They are important, they could simply teach more about history, economics, society, finances, politics... I'd be happy if my children didn't have to analyse boring poems, had less P.E. and were not taught religion.

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February 02, 2020, 06:27:05 PM
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Come on guys - going to the right school is the main thing. If you go to Eton, Harvard or the Sorbonne, then you can really achieve in life. If you go to any other school, then you are at a massive disadvantage right from the beginning.
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February 03, 2020, 01:11:37 AM
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What kind of fucking incel shit is this?

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-Urban legend said you treat women nice they would reward you handsomely in the end. Debunked!

If a girl doesn't like you, she doesn't like you it's simple. You can continue to be nice to her, but in the end she owes nothing to you to have any sort of sexual relations or any sort of relations past casual shit. This is literally r/incel.




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February 03, 2020, 01:29:54 PM
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What kind of fucking incel shit is this?

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-Urban legend said you treat women nice they would reward you handsomely in the end. Debunked!

If a girl doesn't like you, she doesn't like you it's simple. You can continue to be nice to her, but in the end she owes nothing to you to have any sort of sexual relations or any sort of relations past casual shit. This is literally r/incel.

If you’re talking about a women that’s true women are extremely scary today, they’re expecting you to do the right thing, speak the right words, bend over when they speak, lick it when they hint it, also don’t try to waste their time on first meeting. For girl that’s total different, don’t believe me? Check the twitter out and search for the keyword uraaka. What’s wrong with treating girl with love and respect? Because the internet would call you incel? And the one who love calling other incel are tranny? Confuse? Chaos? Deception? Lies? Ok, nobody should trust the internet in 2008, but in 2020, everybody seem to trust whatever bull crap came from internet, how gullible. Luckily nobody kill themselve over the request asked by internet users, my faith on humanity is restored.

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February 04, 2020, 10:03:41 AM
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I've worked as a teacher for a year and I wouldn't say that shool is a waste of time. Especially the primary school. You can comparehow important it is by putting an average European next to an average person from Africa, where even primary education is lacking. Some of those people from Africa and the Middle East moved to Germany and here's the result:
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Problems were particularly evident among students who have to attend so-called “literacy courses” because they lack reading and writing skills. The proportion of participants taking these types of courses has now reached 22 percent. 

School is supposed to teach you how to learn, give you the basics and allow you to expand your knowledge. It teaches you how to read and write, how to speak in foreign languages, how to count and fill forms, how to write letters and applitactions. All good schools do that and without it you'll be lost in the modern world. Who cares about Tinder and social media, what is important is for you to be able to compile knowledge on your own, learn how to tackle problems, how to analyse situation and adapt. It teaches you to work on your own at home, it teaches you to work in a group of peers.

There'a many things I'd change, but that doesn't undermine the basic function of schools. They are important, they could simply teach more about history, economics, society, finances, politics... I'd be happy if my children didn't have to analyse boring poems, had less P.E. and were not taught religion.

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I have blatantly lied to my friends about student loans.

I feel fooled and bamboozled about the American dream

We heard about the years of incremental payments and the thrill of getting to a zero balance, but also about delayed weddings, tensions with your parent over your shared debt, and fading hopes of ever buying a home or saving for retirement.

It make sense that you have a lot of story about student debt. More Americans are taking out more in student loans and taking a longer time to pay it off.
Mans it’s fundamentally reshaping how you thin about the value of education and the milestone a of adulthood.

“You sort of feel lost and like you totally screwed up somehow because you just couldn’t figure it out,” q listener name Dena said about struggling to make loan payments ten years after college.” And the rest of the world is making money and paying their bills and there’s this subculture of individuals who are book smart and world stupid.”

“I don’t know how else to put it except that I almost made it.” A listener name sharif said. He put himself through school with loans to became a chemical engineer, but feels embarrassed by his six-figure debt and never talks about it. “I felt like a total complete idiot that I put myself in this position.”

For some of you, that’s embarrassment has become denial. “I just didn’t pay.” Jordan Gibbs told me about receiving her first student loan statement. “Like. I just felt like, how can you expect me to start paying you $700 a month? Which is just a crazy number I can’t even afford I pay rent.”

We picked through the stories to find some common themes. From these themes, we were able to draw some lessons that can be passed on to the next generation of borrowers.



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2. Debt like a constrictorʼs coils
A young man contemplates student loan debt.


Total debt: $260,000
Location: Washington, D.C.
“Angie says that student loans dictate everything in her life: her decisions about jobs, children, marriage, buying a house, and saving for retirement. They also dictate her mental health.”
When youʼre a quarter-million dollars in debt, itʼs hard to focus on anything else. This is a rather common theme in many of the stories shared on Death, Sex & Money‘s project. Debt of this magnitude can have a strangulation effect, and as we know it is causing people to make big changes to their plans.


8. Be interested in interest rates
A woman discusses interest rates with a banker.

Total debt: $160,000
Location: Seattle
“I graduated from undergrad with no loans thanks to my parents help and scholarships. I was on my own for law school. While I have " great paying job and can afford to make my payments, what frustrates me the most is the interest rate. I have a mortgage, and the interest rate is 4.1%. My federal student loans (all are federal), range from 5% to 8%.” The lesson here is to pay attention to the fine print. You might not even consider the interest rates on your loans when youʼre young, but eventually, theyʼll hit you hard. Sometimes, " school loan will cost you more than a loan for a house.
9. Debt and marriage
When you get married, you marry that personʼs debt, too.

Total debt: $150,000
Location: Dallas
Kylee got a full-ride scholarship to college, but her husband has debt from his undergraduate and doctoral degrees. Then, she went for her MBA, adding to the coupleʼs debt. She once vowed never to go into debt because of her parentsʼ experiences, but now sheʼs facing loans. Sheʼs scared about what happens if thereʼs a crisis.”
A lot of people end up getting married. A part of that is knowing how itʼll impact your finances. Several stories similar to this one show up on Death, Sex & Money‘s project.

12. It can always get worse
A man deals with his student loan debt reality.


Total debt: $200,000
Location: Portales, New Mexico
“I incurred a lot of student loan debt earning a Ph.D. and a masterʼs degree. The job market in my field was so bad that it took years for me to get a job as a professor. I couldnʼt pay my loans because I had to work as an adjunct for years, and the pay was dismal. Now, I owe more than double my original debt just in interest and penalties.”
Yes, it can always get worse. Look at this personʼs situation, for example. They have somehow managed to go further in debt because they couldnʼt make the payments on the original amount. So, yes, the hole can and will get deeper.


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... have been attempting to take responsibility for their unpaid loans and outstanding debts through life insurance payouts. In fiscal year 2005, 17 consumer loan firms received a combined 4.3 billion yen in suicide policy payouts on 4,908 borrowers - or some 15 percents of the 32,552 suicides in 2005. Lawyers and other experts allege that, in some cases, collectors harass debtors to the point they take this route. Japanese nonbank lenders starting in the mid-1990s begin taking out life insurances policies...


The conclusion of the post is that for someone to made a lot of money, some other people need to pay the blood price with their life, often time it’s the victims unconsciously walking into the trap without recourse and made the life most vulnerable mistake, student, youngsters, kids are often the ultimate victims to this dangerous traps. Although there is still some retiree fall into it, not unusual in the 1997/2008 that a lot of gullible people who loss their life saving into stock market bubble burst, property market burst, mlm, get rich quick franchise, banking scheme, all the mistakes that’s valuable “real education” that’s not taught at school, nobody can stop that. We absolutely hate scammers who rob people hard earned dollar, hate the get rich quick scheme that rob everybody valuable youth life, distract people by chasing false dream, and the entire banking system is running a ponzi especially the stock market, “any Tom and Dick can list their company on the stock market with the help of Morgan Stanley in 2008, with some listing fee, kinda same like how binance charging listing fee for many ICO IEO etc.” and many fools who get screwed of their life saving to buy the bubble created by the banking giant. All these scammer should be prosecuted and banned from living in our society. But up until now the scammers are still living and kicking strong, and their scams never stopped running, and the fools never stop sending money to them.

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As usual, the discussion would only come to fruitless. BTW the reddit thread is created by a strong independent women who questioning why it is so hard to get laid, complaint about her malfunctioning master bathor and attract thousands strangers to giving feedback, of course it’s baffling to many curious /r nerds, that’s women suppose to be the initiator of any occasions, men would always be the one to wait and get desperated over it. But looking at the recent development, I think there is a turn of events, many are begging for it, the denial is very strong. Nobody want string attachment in this competitive world, everyone just want to meet up and take whatever they can from you, and don’t want to have any obligations from anyone, best to be both strangers, no need to verbally very obvious about what you want from them, talk over the internet, directly without pretending you’re not hungry for a session, may be post some nude and hide the face with mask to attract interest lurkers while also protecting yourself from moral police who would hunt you down for whoring, oh yeah, I think it is the utopian lifestyle, total freedom even to the emotional need.

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School is definitely not a waste of time! It teaches us discipline at least and it's one of the most crucial element of success. To build a career you dream of you can't count on the lucky chance and you can't be self-driven 24/7. Here self-discipline will help you.

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School is definitely not a waste of time! It teaches us discipline at least and it's one of the most crucial element of success. To build a career you dream of you can't count on the lucky chance and you can't be self-driven 24/7. Here self-discipline will help you.

Of course, the discipline will help us but also if we can control ourselves everything will be fine We never get any real education from school. There are many boys and girls who have learned a lot of bad things in school.

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School is definitely not a waste of time! It teaches us discipline at least and it's one of the most crucial element of success. To build a career you dream of you can't count on the lucky chance and you can't be self-driven 24/7. Here self-discipline will help you.


Many people get screwed in market crashes, and they never get mentioned again, it’s very sad, in 1997, I see family get screwed by venturing into stock market scams, it’s horrible, they’re very decent family, they have high discipline, hard working, and all, the stock market crash changed everything, scammers are blaming everyone else, the bank collapse and many people lost their saving in the bank, their gold got stolen within the bank, the bank insolvent took everyone depositors money with them including the gold saving in the bank and disappears, nobody was charged for the fault and every depositors took the loss, many family crumble, many people die, many conspiracies surface, many people can afford the loss and kys. In 2008, it come back again, and it’s worst this time, many pensioners get screwed, stock market crashes, and franchise scams, get rich quick, gold venture scams, etc, I see dead people in 2008, horrible, nobody want to mention that again, it’s scary, if you don’t know that of 2008, you’re in denial, everybody join in the scams, the govt, the bank, the school, the elite, everybody anticipate into the scams, in 2008, everyone pensioners dream of a peaceful retirement get screwed, I saw many friends kill themselves, I saw many pensioners go back to work after get screwed, I saw the retirement age extended to infinity, and the beginning of no retirement benefit for the future employment policy, the damage is inaccessible even to this day, everything was hidden from public knowledges, nobody know when the gold standard was lifted, nobody know the pension was extended, nobody know the bank is printing money, nobody know who is the scammers in the crashes, everybody just put the blame on the stock market, a perfect distraction, of course all the scammers get rich, and they never faced justice.
After two decades of getting deceived, I can’t believe people still have faith on the scam, I can say fools really deserved to be apart with their hard earned dollar.

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The real education starts at home,
We would just learn more from school and learn the lesson of life.
Experience would be the best teacher that we could have in order to learn.
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     Although I agree in the fact that the real education is not taught at school, I still believe that education is somehow convenient in terms of preparing us to the new chapter that we will encounter in the near future. Maybe some learnings or lessons that the school provided us are useless specially when it comes to work, but we can't deny that education still taught us how to be responsible, how to respect others, how to be competitive, how to handle things when the whole situation is complicated and most importantly, how to socialize with different people.
    
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Yes and actually schools are created to produce employees. Many people are sacrificing years of their life studying to prominent universities and ending up not really equiped for the real world. School doesn't teach about real life, they are just guide to give as basic education but real game start outside the school.
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You are right OP , unafortunately many kids are not educated at all and the problem come and overtime schools only make more employers and not learn nothing good.
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It is true that you couldn't learn everything from school there are some lesson that should be learn from our own or at our home.
Some of us learn from self studying and even manage to have a great life by our own way even the drop outs or some successful person didn't even manage to graduate.
I am not saying that kids should stop attending school but let them learn from their own just guide them don't force them on your dream they have their own dream let them achieve it.
Some parent's drown their children to their own dreams wanting their child to achieve what they couldn't achieve or what they didn't achieve.

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The real education starts at home,
We would just learn more from school and learn the lesson of life.
Experience would be the best teacher that we could have in order to learn.

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Nope, everybody learn from mistakes, you don’t learn anything from home or school, the more mistakes you made and you learn more, but you’re not allowed to make mistakes today, the entire economy is too fragile to afford another mistakes, that’s why any small mistake is costly, everybody is stressful for not allowing any mistake.

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    Although I agree in the fact that the real education is not taught at school, I still believe that education is somehow convenient in terms of preparing us to the new chapter that we will encounter in the near future. Maybe some learnings or lessons that the school provided us are useless specially when it comes to work, but we can't deny that education still taught us how to be responsible, how to respect others, how to be competitive, how to handle things when the whole situation is complicated and most importantly, how to socialize with different people.
    

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That’s the teaching of status quo, the status quo teach us to be responsible while they’re stealing, teach us to respect while they whore shaming everybody, stay teach us to be competitive while they enjoy rent-seeking benefit, handle difficult task like investing to get rich while they create more and more inflation, teach us to socialise while they encourage human trafficking.

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Yes and actually schools are created to produce employees. Many people are sacrificing years of their life studying to prominent universities and ending up not really equiped for the real world. School doesn't teach about real life, they are just guide to give as basic education but real game start outside the school.

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School produce more employer? I think kids today are required to do so much work to sustain the debt cycle, to fix the problems not created by them, not allowed to make mistakes, also they don’t get out of the room very often, they’re sticking on the screen all the time, no outdoor activities, which is unusual for many grandma.

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You are right OP , unafortunately many kids are not educated at all and the problem come and overtime schools only make more employers and not learn nothing good.

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Working long hour to sustain a failing economy, that’s what I see, the entire economy is extracting every resource they can from young employees, we are all but just parasite living off the hard work from third world slavery, entitled? Nope, it’s a rent seeking behaviour that’s even existed in the banking industry.

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Deal with it. Some sob compilations collected over the Internet.
 
-Urban legend said you treat women nice they would reward you handsomely in the end. Debunked!
 
-The horror story of some well known college run by the billionaire businessmen. Teacher often skip classes, teachers quit job without further notice, students couldn't graduate due to fact that the teachers who quit didn't prepare the paperwork for the exams.
 
-Teenage find it hard to get laid, they write it on the reddit and attract thousands views, teenage forget their most natural talent, get laid. Sad!
 
-More and more teenage are resorting to online dating to get laid, they often post nude and cover their face with mask, accepting request from wide range of fetishes from the audience, and they crave attention badly, they crave retweet, followers and attentions.
 
-Millennials working at low wages, no saving, high rents for their tiny room, often resort to online job to make end meet. Selling their nude is part of their odd job, whether they can sell it, their body and performance ought to be very hot. Working on sweatshop for $400 a month wage (month), and just yesterday lunar new year has spent over $300 on the dinner, talk about inequality. Brb I don't brother with gender problem.
 
-The myths of Millennials working like a cow, morning working 9 to 5, Uber driver/food panda on the weekend, and online webcam whore at night, or selling junk over the Internet, trading stock on coffee lunch break, or selling rare items for the MMO game. Debunked! Millennials work to dead for the sake of upholding the wealth that's built for the baby boomer, to sustain the top CEOs lavish spending, the top 500 S&P company, the Wall Street expensive fast cars fast houses and fast women, also lavish travel trips/vacations, also to sustain the debt cycle that's left by them.

main purpose of school is to supply the state and its private businesses with qualifite and literate labour.

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