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Some website has self exclusion features like Nitrogensports but in the end, I think this is all about the will of the players. When we are gambling and we are in control, these things should not be a problem, but if we don't have control then probably we will face trouble in the long run.
I don't know if casinos are really into these kind of program since they are a profit oriented business, so basically if a player lose more than means the opposite for them which is profit, so why would they bother to put a limit on every gambler's account when that would limit their income as well?
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February 01, 2020, 04:44:29 PM |
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On a business perspective, I do not think that adding a feature where it limits the expenditure of a gambler would be healthy in the business especially considering that the website also has to pay their respective expenses monthly. If you are struggling to to control and to self-discipline yourself when it comes to gambling, then seek for support/help from your peers or family members. The best change will always come from your own volition to change and that will give you the determination to impose limits upon yourself. On my own perspective, functions like these could definitely help especially when people tend to forget that they have been wasting resources that much. I would also like to add that a feature that shows your total expenditure for the day can also at least help people in knowing how much they spent. It is really difficult to draw the line between the business and the gambler's perspective especially that businesses tend to focus/aim in earning profits.
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February 01, 2020, 06:10:27 PM |
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I still don't understand the notion of this, it really makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Think about it, does McDonald reject to give food to fat people? Does chocolate companies reject the people with diabetes? Does the cigarette brand deny the lung cancer people?
I mean you can literally kill yourself if you want to and those companies will continue to profit without really caring, they don't mind if you die or not, they only care if you give them your money or not. And here we are, technically not a death related thing and casinos are requested to have a control function, I am sorry but the worst thing you can have while gambling is basically losing your money, that's it, which means you should stay away if you are addicted but you won't die directly because of it.
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February 01, 2020, 07:10:29 PM |
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I still don't understand the notion of this, it really makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Think about it, does McDonald reject to give food to fat people? Does chocolate companies reject the people with diabetes? Does the cigarette brand deny the lung cancer people?
I mean you can literally kill yourself if you want to and those companies will continue to profit without really caring, they don't mind if you die or not, they only care if you give them your money or not. And here we are, technically not a death related thing and casinos are requested to have a control function, I am sorry but the worst thing you can have while gambling is basically losing your money, that's it, which means you should stay away if you are addicted but you won't die directly because of it.
Its really nonsense if we do think yet they wont consider on limiting their players just because of that concern. They might have some forums or customer service about such addiction or do ask out for help but doesnt mean that they will put up blockage or to stop their players on hanging out on the site.Only ones self can control things what ever the situation he do faces.
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February 01, 2020, 09:21:31 PM |
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I don't know if casinos are really into these kind of program since they are a profit oriented business, so basically if a player lose more than means the opposite for them which is profit, so why would they bother to put a limit on every gambler's account when that would limit their income as well?
I agree with you, you cannot impose this on a profit-driven company as long as you are playing they keep making a profit, and some gamblers have this kind of mentality, quitters never win, so they keep on playing and the gambling casino keeps making a profit and they want you to continue playing.
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February 01, 2020, 11:08:30 PM |
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I don't know if casinos are really into these kind of program since they are a profit oriented business, so basically if a player lose more than means the opposite for them which is profit, so why would they bother to put a limit on every gambler's account when that would limit their income as well?
I agree with you, you cannot impose this on a profit-driven company as long as you are playing they keep making a profit, and some gamblers have this kind of mentality, quitters never win, so they keep on playing and the gambling casino keeps making a profit and they want you to continue playing. As stated in the OP, online gambling on his country has a limit and he’s making ways to ask if its also possible on crypto gambling site which is also good. A company should not only focus on their profit, they must also consider the health of their players so they will stay longer, i mean if the player already exceed the playing time a day then its not healthy anymore and that case it will lessen the number of player if something bad happen to that gambler, so for me this is still a win win situation in the long run. Though we cannot blame the gambling sites, so for now if there’s no system like this then I think its good to learn how to control yourself on your own ways.
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February 02, 2020, 02:16:06 AM |
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Some website has self exclusion features like Nitrogensports but in the end, I think this is all about the will of the players. When we are gambling and we are in control, these things should not be a problem, but if we don't have control then probably we will face trouble in the long run.
I don't know if casinos are really into these kind of program since they are a profit oriented business, so basically if a player lose more than means the opposite for them which is profit, so why would they bother to put a limit on every gambler's account when that would limit their income as well?
A casino is a place that gamblers can play gambling games, but we need to have control for ourselves, especially limiting our money, so we know that we don't use all of the money to playing gambling. We need to understand how dangerous gambling games for us if we lose control because we will difficult to recover the money that we lose. The more people who cannot limit themselves in gambling, the more profit that the casino will get, so that is why we need to care with what we have and don't lose everything before it's too late.
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February 02, 2020, 03:05:09 AM |
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It's a good addition, even just a simple reminder would do. But the thing with gambling sites and operations is that they are also a business, and they want more profit, and thus, they lure you to this swirling trap of addiction that is difficult to get out off.
The practice isn't just used in online gambling, but also in traditional casino gambling, where the ambience is set to hype you up and forget about time cycles. Same idea, just different execution.
If I knew it correctly, casinos are set to be in red ambiance, and having no clock or even windows it was designed to boost individuals and not to be reminded on how long they've been there and how much they have lose. Quite selfish, but it is what it is. Ain't no business that want their customer to limit themselves on having transaction itself, right? Because they built in order to get you - gamblers, with their platforms. And I agree to the man above, since you knew how to limit yourself, then, there is still nothing wrong to be reminded. Well, pity those who didn't. Even I was thinking the same. Why would any casino delete any of their user account knowing the fact that the whole and sole income of these casinos is from the users bets placed. They would never allow anyone to quit gambling if it is in their hands. Gamblers gets most addicted to gambling and most of the times, it is only because of the platforms. Gambling platforms are made in such a way that they could attract the gamblers in order to gamble constantly onto the platform and get addicted soon. We need a lot of self-control in order to not loose excess funds in gambling. Gambling can be harmful in terms of financial situations and you should try to maintain good gap between gambling and your capital.
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February 02, 2020, 03:10:46 AM |
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There might be some regulatory issues concerning the removal of the account that is why most of the gambling websites or platform isn't allowing that to easily be removed by casual members. In my opinion, if the gambling platform is decentralized, that is the time that they should allow freedom of the users to control their account, but if we are taking part of the gambling platform that is centralized, we need to conform to their rules and procedures and we shouldn't complain about that.
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February 02, 2020, 03:55:03 AM |
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Lately, I've been gambling a bit too much again and it's impossible to add limits to most crypto gambling websites. Heck, I've found it to be impossible to just remove your account, without contacting support.
I think it should be mandatory, or at least standard, to include easy ways to prevent members from gambling. In my country (Belgium), legal gambling websites are required to have player-imposed limits, plus general limits on their websites. I wish crypto-based gambling websites would do the same.
Anyway, I've just sent an e-mail to the one casino I was still playing on, to close down my account. I hope they'll do that without any issue. But still, I wish they would just add a function to do it by yourself, or add some self-control functionality.
I.e. let people exclude themselves for X amount of time
I think i like this one because though we knew that Gambling is our own discretion,will,desire and our own faith yet having limitation from the gambling site itself will help gamblers limit themselves also,because addiction is indeed and others cannot hinder from this. Sometimes people just need to be obligated before they find the right path to walk trough . But of course why would gambling sit s care about this?when they’re first motive is to let players become addicted so they will make more profit even if this ends of becoming a gamblers life miserable.
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February 02, 2020, 05:33:08 AM |
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I'm too in favor of this. They need to at least provide a lock function where the user can lock their coins for a certain amount of time or one that releases a fixed amount of coins every day while locking other. The largest loss I've made is due to rage bet. For example, if I start with 100 and go upto 1000 and down to 200, I'm very likely to go all in than realizing that I have 100% profit.
It might help people but wouldn't these gamblers think they would just find other gambling sites? They would just be annoyed that they have this feature and would be deciding to change their site into another without that kind of feature. That would lose their costumers and gambling sites would not want to lose them.
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February 02, 2020, 05:34:51 AM |
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I think this is not going to happened since gambling websites need profit and profit is what gambling websites are all about putting a feature that is going to limit their profit is surely not going to happened. As a gambler, you should be able to control your self in betting or continuing to gamble your money in the websites, probably the websites wanted you to be addicted and it is not their problem if you lose your money in the website so you should gamble at your own risk.
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February 02, 2020, 05:55:13 AM |
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Lately, I've been gambling a bit too much again and it's impossible to add limits to most crypto gambling websites. Heck, I've found it to be impossible to just remove your account, without contacting support.
I think it should be mandatory, or at least standard, to include easy ways to prevent members from gambling. In my country (Belgium), legal gambling websites are required to have player-imposed limits, plus general limits on their websites. I wish crypto-based gambling websites would do the same.
Anyway, I've just sent an e-mail to the one casino I was still playing on, to close down my account. I hope they'll do that without any issue. But still, I wish they would just add a function to do it by yourself, or add some self-control functionality.
I.e. let people exclude themselves for X amount of time
It's your own will to stop the gambling. If you want to stop just do not deposit any more money in the casino site and do not login. You do not have to wait for the casino to remove your account in order for you to stop the gambling. These are just excuses that we cannot stop gambling because it is not easy to abadon the account.
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February 02, 2020, 05:58:08 AM |
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Lately, I've been gambling a bit too much again and it's impossible to add limits to most crypto gambling websites. Heck, I've found it to be impossible to just remove your account, without contacting support.
I think it should be mandatory, or at least standard, to include easy ways to prevent members from gambling. In my country (Belgium), legal gambling websites are required to have player-imposed limits, plus general limits on their websites. I wish crypto-based gambling websites would do the same.
Anyway, I've just sent an e-mail to the one casino I was still playing on, to close down my account. I hope they'll do that without any issue. But still, I wish they would just add a function to do it by yourself, or add some self-control functionality.
I.e. let people exclude themselves for X amount of time
It's your own will to stop the gambling. If you want to stop just do not deposit any more money in the casino site and do not login. You do not have to wait for the casino to remove your account in order for you to stop the gambling. These are just excuses that we cannot stop gambling because it is not easy to abadon the account. Sometimes it is not easy to control ourselves especially if one is addicted to gambling. I once changed the password of the site to a random password and then forgot it. This way i was not able to use that gambling site. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 02, 2020, 06:28:55 AM |
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You need to consider two things for this, first is the gambling site, second is the gamblers.
Running a gambling site is a business, meaning, they are always after the profits, and they require a certain fixed amount of bankroll they need to meet per day to keep their business running. Second, limiting gamblers to gamble is like your neighbor not minding his own business and messing up what you do in your life, that is how gamblers are going to feel if gambling sites will implement such thing.
Yes, gambling is addicting, but it is our very own responsibility and choice when we are playing gambling, gambling sites can't be a disciplinary councilor that will nag at you or advice some crappy things to you when you are playing gambling too much.
Be a responsible gambler.
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February 02, 2020, 06:47:57 AM |
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Is it hard to have self control of one's own? Gambling websites thrive on people's addiction, it's player who should be cautious and anyway most crypto gambling website are unregistered or registered where rules are loose, so usually they have no one to tell.
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February 02, 2020, 06:50:51 AM |
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Self control is gambler's responsibility, isn't it? Why casinos should add such feature as it is the main idea under gambling business? Even if casinos add this feature, it will always depend on ourselves. If we cant control ourselves then this feature will be useless because addicted gamblers will always find a way to continue gambling. Lets just control ourselves instead of relying on other things while doing gambling. You know your own limit then you should know when to stop.
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February 02, 2020, 07:06:16 AM |
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Or probably just keep warning accounts that are in loses or unprofitable for a long time? Such accounts are likely owned by addicted gamblers... If they continue to play without being profitable, the account could then be closed... Not sure if this is the right thing to do.
I think closing of account could work best in society where people are tracked. Too risky to do if it's a "centralized" society.
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February 02, 2020, 07:57:38 AM |
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Some website has self exclusion features like Nitrogensports but in the end, I think this is all about the will of the players. When we are gambling and we are in control, these things should not be a problem, but if we don't have control then probably we will face trouble in the long run.
I don't know if casinos are really into these kind of program since they are a profit oriented business, so basically if a player lose more than means the opposite for them which is profit, so why would they bother to put a limit on every gambler's account when that would limit their income as well?
A casino is a place that gamblers can play gambling games, but we need to have control for ourselves, especially limiting our money, so we know that we don't use all of the money to playing gambling. We need to understand how dangerous gambling games for us if we lose control because we will difficult to recover the money that we lose. The more people who cannot limit themselves in gambling, the more profit that the casino will get, so that is why we need to care with what we have and don't lose everything before it's too late. There is no one who will be able to help us in controlling oneself because the only one who can truly help us is ourselves. No matter what functionality is added to gambling if you can't control yourself then it is still useless. Gambling is a very dangerous game if you won't have self-control because it will not only ruin your sanity but it can also ruin your family.
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February 02, 2020, 08:22:37 AM Last edit: February 02, 2020, 08:35:17 AM by Rikafip |
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Lately, I've been gambling a bit too much again and it's impossible to add limits to most crypto gambling websites. Heck, I've found it to be impossible to just remove your account, without contacting support.
First, sorry to hear that you have issues with controlling yourself in that matter, I've been there and i know it ain't easy. But adding limits wouldn't solve much, as people would simply go bet someplace else after reaching the set limit, and that's not in the interest of any gambling site, to push their own clients to other sites. You could say that you would be able to control yourself and not go someplace else (then again this could be used in this case as well), but what about the others? Standard scenario: Gambler sets the limit, and looses all the money. He is desperate now, he wants to get his money back, but he can't as he reached the limit. Will this stop him from simply opening a new account someplace else? Highly unlikely. I think it should be mandatory, or at least standard, to include easy ways to prevent members from gambling.
I worked in brick&mortar casino for years, and we had similar requests, people asking us to ban them from casino. Since we couldn't do that as it wouldn't work, few of them decided to get the ban by destroying casino inventory or attacking workers. In 100% of the cases, after they got the ban, they kept coming back, apologizing and begging us to let them back in. Only thing that actually works in the long run is self-imposed self-control , not the one imposed by the others.
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