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February 04, 2020, 12:41:17 AM
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This would help a lot of people around the globe to maintain control over their asset and help them set the right thing to do in case when the limit have been reached. But, I think this would be hard to be implemented because, I think, it would mean less opportunity for the gambling organizers to earn more profit, it is either they would implement it themselves' which is less possible, or a regulating body would take charge.

Even if the gambling site makes an easy way to prevent members from gambling, if the gamblers don't have self-control, that gambler will always gamble and use more money. If there is a prohibition or limiting on using the money for gamblers or the account will freeze by itself if the gamblers break the limit, that doesn't mean the gamblers will stop playing gambling. They will open a new account in the other days to play gambling, and that will happen like that over and over. So every gambler really needs to have self-control over themselves.

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February 04, 2020, 01:35:45 AM
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While I do somewhat agree with this, there's also a ton of things that could go wrong such as people somehow accidentally placing a limitation on their account through some sort of a self-control function, or people that end up regretting activating the self-control or maybe needing the funds in an emergency that are locked up in the casino for X amount of time. The best solution is to start with something small that also exercises your self control, and continuing to do this until eventually you regain enough self control to stop gambling when you want to.
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February 04, 2020, 02:32:21 AM
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This would help a lot of people around the globe to maintain control over their asset and help them set the right thing to do in case when the limit have been reached. But, I think this would be hard to be implemented because, I think, it would mean less opportunity for the gambling organizers to earn more profit, it is either they would implement it themselves' which is less possible, or a regulating body would take charge.

Even if the gambling site makes an easy way to prevent members from gambling, if the gamblers don't have self-control, that gambler will always gamble and use more money. If there is a prohibition or limiting on using the money for gamblers or the account will freeze by itself if the gamblers break the limit, that doesn't mean the gamblers will stop playing gambling. They will open a new account in the other days to play gambling, and that will happen like that over and over. So every gambler really needs to have self-control over themselves.

Gambling sites should apply a life status check from every players who've been playing with them. With this strategy it could control more gamblers aggressiveness on betting even though beyond of his capacity to bet. KYC and proof of legit income must be a strict requirements in order to be registered for any crypto gambling websites, and failure of completion will dealt to have no access on the website.

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February 04, 2020, 03:04:45 AM
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This would help a lot of people around the globe to maintain control over their asset and help them set the right thing to do in case when the limit have been reached. But, I think this would be hard to be implemented because, I think, it would mean less opportunity for the gambling organizers to earn more profit, it is either they would implement it themselves' which is less possible, or a regulating body would take charge.

Even if the gambling site makes an easy way to prevent members from gambling, if the gamblers don't have self-control, that gambler will always gamble and use more money. If there is a prohibition or limiting on using the money for gamblers or the account will freeze by itself if the gamblers break the limit, that doesn't mean the gamblers will stop playing gambling. They will open a new account in the other days to play gambling, and that will happen like that over and over. So every gambler really needs to have self-control over themselves.

This may not be able to totally hinder an addicted gambler from playing. But to a moderate gambler who is attracted to gambling but still has some control left in him, this might really help. This is an effective mechanism to manage each gambler's gambling hobby. But if we talk of addicted gamblers, that would be a totally different scenario. Gambling is almost unstoppable for this kind of people. Even without a single penny, they will always find a way to gamble, either by selling some properties, or by stealing, or pawning, getting a loan, and so on. So this feature is definitely not for them. What is for them is professional intervention.

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February 04, 2020, 07:56:40 AM
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Some website has self exclusion features like Nitrogensports but in the end, I think this is all about the will of the players.
When we are gambling and we are in control, these things should not be a problem, but if we don't have control then probably we will face trouble in the long run.

I don't know if casinos are really into these kind of program since they are a profit oriented business, so basically if a player lose more than means the opposite for them which is profit, so why would they bother to put a limit on every gambler's account when that would limit their income as well? 

A casino is a place that gamblers can play gambling games, but we need to have control for ourselves, especially limiting our money, so we know that we don't use all of the money to playing gambling. We need to understand how dangerous gambling games for us if we lose control because we will difficult to recover the money that we lose. The more people who cannot limit themselves in gambling, the more profit that the casino will get, so that is why we need to care with what we have and don't lose everything before it's too late.

There is no one who will be able to help us in controlling oneself because the only one who can truly help us is ourselves. No matter what functionality is added to gambling if you can't control yourself then it is still useless.  Gambling is a very dangerous game if you won't have self-control because it will not only ruin your sanity but it can also ruin your family.

I think gambling could be made addictive intentionally or unintentionally. The features, environments, sounds etc that encourage gambling (especially the bad gamblings) addiction should be removed in my opinion. Stopping an addicts from gambling more, can be helpful too. You never can tell what addicts are passing through internally. Wasting time and money only makes things worse.

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February 04, 2020, 08:50:06 AM
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there was a site that have this feature a long time ago if i still remember it  but i think that wasnt a gambling site but it would be cool if a gambling site have that feature so that we can get rid of our accounts permanently not just by a certain time because if you self ban your self from a certain period of time , the chances is that you will repeat same mistake again the moment that youl comeback or worst youl be itching to comeback but time lock down time hasnt been expired yet  .
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February 04, 2020, 09:03:28 AM
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The gambling site runs because of your emotions. Now question is can you control it? Answer is yes but it is tough to keep a control over emotions specially when in involved losing money and the method to seemingly make that money back is right in front of you. There is this vicious cycle and you need to break away from it.

Gambleaware is a good resource for addicted gamblers but I assure you that the biggest person who can help is you yourself. You have to take the control back and this is possible even if it is difficult.

I hope the support team of the site blocks your account but again it will take a simple circumvention method to go back. So here again self-control is more important.

 
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February 04, 2020, 10:34:49 AM
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there was a site that have this feature a long time ago if i still remember it  but i think that wasnt a gambling site but it would be cool if a gambling site have that feature so that we can get rid of our accounts permanently not just by a certain time because if you self ban your self from a certain period of time , the chances is that you will repeat same mistake again the moment that youl comeback or worst youl be itching to comeback but time lock down time hasnt been expired yet  .
You're right about that, chances that after gaining enough funds you'll be going to try your luck thinking that you'll be able to recover back those losses but the worse thing will come and make your bankroll to lose again. It's tough to control such emotions and if there's function like this from any gambling site the chance of minimizing addiction and losing huge amount of money is high.
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February 04, 2020, 10:55:39 AM
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Lately, I've been gambling a bit too much again and it's impossible to add limits to most crypto gambling websites.
Heck, I've found it to be impossible to just remove your account, without contacting support.

I think it should be mandatory, or at least standard, to include easy ways to prevent members from gambling.
In my country (Belgium), legal gambling websites are required to have player-imposed limits, plus general limits on their websites.
I wish crypto-based gambling websites would do the same.

Anyway, I've just sent an e-mail to the one casino I was still playing on, to close down my account. I hope they'll do that without any issue.
But still, I wish they would just add a function to do it by yourself, or add some self-control functionality.

I.e. let people exclude themselves for X amount of time

I partly agree with you, instead of them adding a self control and reducing their profit, it should be us who should have self control. In order to cancel or delete an account they should provide a delete account link on user profile. It would be waste of time sending  them an email just to cancel/close Account.

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February 04, 2020, 04:24:00 PM
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I understand your idea. This is already practiced in offline casinos in some countries, where you can ask your person to be blacklisted in the casino if you think that this will help you cope with the control of gambling addiction. Thus, many people blacklist themselves in all casinos in the city after which they are simply not allowed to go there for a certain or indefinite amount of time.

I believe that creating such functionality for gambling sites is not profitable, because the main income of casino sites is from those people who can not get rid of addiction,
continue to play again and again without brakes. Therefore, your own control in this matter will depend only on you, like everything in this life.

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February 04, 2020, 04:34:38 PM
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I believe that creating such functionality for gambling sites is not profitable, because the main income of casino sites is from those people who can not get rid of addiction,
continue to play again and again without brakes. Therefore, your own control in this matter will depend only on you, like everything in this life.

Sometimes looking for ways to maximize profit just isn't the best thing to do. If I was a casino owner and there was a way I could stop someone from basically losing more than they can afford to, I would do it even if it draws the profit lower with it.

However, I'm not sure how these limits would help greedy people. If one wants to go over their limit, they will even with the best limiting function that could exist. If one limits their total profit or loss and thinks of going over them, they will increase them. If someone wants to go for another gambling session after deleting their account, they'll just make another one.

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February 04, 2020, 08:07:11 PM
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Why should we look at a feature that not present mostly at gambling sites, which actually should not expect to be at any gambling sites?

Why should these sites care for something that is out of their league?

If people can't control their inner self, why should they expect a website to control them instead? Isn't that still can be called as self-control?

With or without a self-control functionality, it will depend on us if we will push our gambling habit or not. Help ourselves instead and not the site should help us.
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February 04, 2020, 10:25:06 PM
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Why should we look at a feature that not present mostly at gambling sites, which actually should not expect to be at any gambling sites?

Why should these sites care for something that is out of their league?

If people can't control their inner self, why should they expect a website to control them instead? Isn't that still can be called as self-control?

With or without a self-control functionality, it will depend on us if we will push our gambling habit or not. Help ourselves instead and not the site should help us.
If a certain person cant even himself towards his gambling activity then 100% no thing can control him as well.Controlling feature of a gambling site? Sounds unique

but totally irrelevant yet we know that these are businesses and im sure that they wont care most of the time on what would happen to their gamblers financial status
on playing to their site.As long they do have the money then they can make profit and personal things like wrecking your life wont really be a problem to them.

Its out of their concern.

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February 04, 2020, 11:11:22 PM
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I believe that creating such functionality for gambling sites is not profitable, because the main income of casino sites is from those people who can not get rid of addiction,
continue to play again and again without brakes. Therefore, your own control in this matter will depend only on you, like everything in this life.

Sometimes looking for ways to maximize profit just isn't the best thing to do. If I was a casino owner and there was a way I could stop someone from basically losing more than they can afford to, I would do it even if it draws the profit lower with it.

However, I'm not sure how these limits would help greedy people. If one wants to go over their limit, they will even with the best limiting function that could exist. If one limits their total profit or loss and thinks of going over them, they will increase them. If someone wants to go for another gambling session after deleting their account, they'll just make another one.

Greed cannot be encountered this easy. I've pushed myself over the limits and know what it means to do whatever it takes in order to get where you want.

This is the problem. Even after the control mechanism is triggered, if a person wants to, he can create a new account or return to the game in some other way.
Thus, we return to the fact that creating such a mechanism is rather difficult. At a minimum, a third party is needed that will be able to completely block access to all Gambling resources on the device.

However, whether this will be an excessive measure, because something will have more authority on our device than ourselves.
In any case, I think if a person has problems with how much money he can lose, then he himself needs to realize this , and take control.

It makes no sense to rely on others; only you can solve your problems.

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February 04, 2020, 11:19:13 PM
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This will literally help those who are getting addicted to gambling but probably, they will not add this kind of feature since gambling websites don't care if you're getting addicted to it since they are earning profit through your bets. Their income is from the users, if they will let this happen then it will be lessen the kickback they're receiving every day.
This is the problem. Even after the control mechanism is triggered, if a person wants to, he can create a new account or return to the game in some other way.
Actually nope, you can hold that account based on the IP. If that user doesn't have any self-control anymore and keep losing, they will easily track if those accounts are in the same IP so they can't use the platform during cooldown.

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February 04, 2020, 11:58:05 PM
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The idea sound good enough but the question is, is it actionable?
The truth is, many gamblers will know about this feature and are aware of how it can benefit them yet they won't use it. Especially when the loss in games, they will keep on playing hoping they will win. The self-control of gambling come from within, that is the self-will. Anyone that wants to shy away from gambling addiction should have good will power to say no.
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The idea sound good enough but the question is, is it actionable?
The truth is, many gamblers will know about this feature and are aware of how it can benefit them yet they won't use it. Especially when the loss in games, they will keep on playing hoping they will win. The self-control of gambling come from within, that is the self-will. Anyone that wants to shy away from gambling addiction should have good will power to say no.

but even if they use it and their accounts are permanently deleted , they can still comback again and create a new account  . this button isnt the cure for them but the only cure for addicted gamblers if psychological treatment  and by taking some medication  .  when you win , you cant also stop but there is a tendency that you will play and bet high amounts because you see that you have a huge balance left and if you loose that all . you wont still be satisfied and youl find ways to have a capital to play again  .
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February 05, 2020, 01:23:17 AM
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The idea sound good enough but the question is, is it actionable?
The truth is, many gamblers will know about this feature and are aware of how it can benefit them yet they won't use it. Especially when the loss in games, they will keep on playing hoping they will win. The self-control of gambling come from within, that is the self-will. Anyone that wants to shy away from gambling addiction should have good will power to say no.
It's very needed if you really wanted to quit, your self will is the one that you need to established since everything about your decision is back up by your own will. Even there's functionality like this inside the house if you can't find the way to stop yourself then it won't be use at all. It's the gamblers decision making that will keep them away from heavy addiction.
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The idea sound good enough but the question is, is it actionable?
The truth is, many gamblers will know about this feature and are aware of how it can benefit them yet they won't use it. Especially when the loss in games, they will keep on playing hoping they will win. The self-control of gambling come from within, that is the self-will. Anyone that wants to shy away from gambling addiction should have good will power to say no.
It's very needed if you really wanted to quit, your self will is the one that you need to established since everything about your decision is back up by your own will. Even there's functionality like this inside the house if you can't find the way to stop yourself then it won't be use at all. It's the gamblers decision making that will keep them away from heavy addiction.
But it is not easy to quit especially in the gambler became addicted to it. It takes time and counselling program in order to really stop gambling. The OP is about the gambling site that have feature where a gambler can control his self. I do not yet see a gambling like that where it have unique characteristics. Self-control is the best way in order to lessen the time that we are allocating in to gambling. I also became addicted but I overcome it challenge and now I can now control my emotion and feelings again.
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February 05, 2020, 03:02:59 AM
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Gambling sites should apply a life status check from every players who've been playing with them. With this strategy it could control more gamblers aggressiveness on betting even though beyond of his capacity to bet. KYC and proof of legit income must be a strict requirements in order to be registered for any crypto gambling websites, and failure of completion will dealt to have no access on the website.

I think the gambling sites do not check the status of every player because they don't do that besides to check if the account is active in their websites or not. If the account is not active, then they can delete the account so their database will have the active players. Related the status or preventing the gamblers from spending their money, that will be the responsibility for every player because that is their money. And they need to take care of the money if they don't want to lose all of the capital. I don't think the gambling site will need KYC and proof of legit income must be available for the gambling site because we gamble on the crypto gambling site to avoid KYC Grin

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This may not be able to totally hinder an addicted gambler from playing. But to a moderate gambler who is attracted to gambling but still has some control left in him, this might really help. This is an effective mechanism to manage each gambler's gambling hobby. But if we talk of addicted gamblers, that would be a totally different scenario. Gambling is almost unstoppable for this kind of people. Even without a single penny, they will always find a way to gamble, either by selling some properties, or by stealing, or pawning, getting a loan, and so on. So this feature is definitely not for them. What is for them is professional intervention.

No, that will not hinder an addicted gambler from playing. I don't think that will prevent the gambler from spending the money. The player will have more than 3 accounts on the same gambling website because if one account already reaches the limit of spending the money, they will use the other account to continue to gamble. Besides that, I don't think that the gambling website will add that features in their site because their purposes to create the gambling site is to get the money from the gamblers especially from the gambler who cannot control themselves in spending the money.

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