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February 03, 2020, 08:31:52 AM
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Question: are eth-20 tokens valued only from listing on an exchange or do they receive their value based on trade and transfer between wallets when bought or sold for other currencies such as pairing FLEx to USDT?

In other words, do we need to list a token on an exchange to make it tradeable, or is it enough it was created and then traded through open exchanges such as LedgerDex?

I ask because I feel that token values are controlled by the few large exchanges, making the tokens more centralized that actual regulated currencies. In fact, it seems that tokens and coins are now heavily regulated even on a decentralized platform and only the big exchanges (that act like banks) taking hefty fees are controlling the value of tokens. I would not be surprised if there are bots that now manage trades in a similar fashion to the way the finex markets are controlled by bots these days.
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February 03, 2020, 08:45:07 AM
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Question: are eth-20 tokens valued only from listing on an exchange or do they receive their value based on trade and transfer between wallets when bought or sold for other currencies such as pairing FLEx to USDT?

In other words, do we need to list a token on an exchange to make it tradeable, or is it enough it was created and then traded through open exchanges such as LedgerDex?

I ask because I feel that token values are controlled by the few large exchanges, making the tokens more centralized that actual regulated currencies. In fact, it seems that tokens and coins are now heavily regulated even on a decentralized platform and only the big exchanges (that act like banks) taking hefty fees are controlling the value of tokens. I would not be surprised if there are bots that now manage trades in a similar fashion to the way the finex markets are controlled by bots these days.


As we know from the school economy, price is regulated by supply and demand. And this means that there is no fundamental difference in how the sale is made, for example, you can consider selling through the forum (with such a sale, the price will also be formed). The only question that remains is that centralized and simply large exchanges have instruments of influence. For example, they can make a commission in your pair of 0% for market makers. Or encourage the most active merchants in your pair. Of course, for a fee. Moreover, having large flows of money, they can redirect them to the right riverbed.Previously, they sent it to BTC / USDT, and now to the FLEx / USDT pair. Therefore, we can say that having won part of the market, they got the opportunity to engage in pricing. Playing against these guys is dangerous, because it is they who can draw coins inside the exchange, remember this.


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February 03, 2020, 10:15:20 AM
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Question: are eth-20 tokens valued only from listing on an exchange or do they receive their value based on trade and transfer between wallets when bought or sold for other currencies such as pairing FLEx to USDT?
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Yes, the top exchange is very influential with liquidity, but needs to go back to the project objectives. it's useless even though the project is listed on the top exchange but the product has no interest so the volume is small, so in the end if it continues, we can call it "shitcoin" and kicked by the exchange. if you see "shitcoin" prices soaring high and volume isn't convincing, you can be sure they are being manipulated by both the team and the pope, so be careful in the market.

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February 03, 2020, 10:26:13 AM
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Question: are eth-20 tokens valued only from listing on an exchange or do they receive their value based on trade and transfer between wallets when bought or sold for other currencies such as pairing FLEx to USDT?
It is ERC20 tokens. Their value is depending on its own market cap.

In other words, do we need to list a token on an exchange to make it tradeable, or is it enough it was created and then traded through open exchanges such as LedgerDex?
Yes, there's no way to trade them unless it is only tradeable through p2p which can be done through ETH address to ETH address but this is very rare.

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February 03, 2020, 10:40:06 AM
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Wow, I haven't thought about that.
All I know is they need to be listed.
But yeah, they could have one. They get listed for different popular exchange for the value to grow.
That just means they can afford those kind of things for investors to have an easier way to buy their tokens.

There is a much better option though.
Let the value increase more and make the popular force you to be listed on them.
That means a freebie for the listing fee and that also means that you are doing a great job into marketing the token.

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February 03, 2020, 10:51:46 AM
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Wow, I haven't thought about that.
All I know is they need to be listed.
But yeah, they could have one. They get listed for different popular exchange for the value to grow.
That just means they can afford those kind of things for investors to have an easier way to buy their tokens.

There is a much better option though.
Let the value increase more and make the popular force you to be listed on them.
That means a freebie for the listing fee and that also means that you are doing a great job into marketing the token.


Not all merits are taken into account by merit; not all projects receive due popularity if they do not have crazy advertising. You can watch many projects that want to make the world of cryptocurrencies better, but no one even knows about them, if at all, the first commentators did not begin to brand as a “scam” regardless of the idea and thoughts expressed. Or even use cryptoworld as an opportunity to raise funds for a globally useful project (Hoteicoin seemed to me one of such coins). The genius of the idea plays a role only at the very beginning, for cryptocurrencies this applies to the first 2-3 hundred crypto projects.The rest will always go somewhere behind, because they will never receive such support as the first projects, although they can be much better. And then marketing begins to play a role, in the case of cryptocurrencies - listings on large exchanges, some kind of agreement with market makers, and so on and so forth. Even globally useful projects will not receive the same funding and attention as the Dogecoin meme. The reality of the market scares me, so I won’t count on the possibility of promotion using the bounty / airdrop, and creating my own ICO will only lead to damage to trust and reputation.

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February 03, 2020, 10:56:39 AM
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Question: are eth-20 tokens valued only from listing on an exchange or do they receive their value based on trade and transfer between wallets when bought or sold for other currencies such as pairing FLEx to USDT?

In other words, do we need to list a token on an exchange to make it tradeable, or is it enough it was created and then traded through open exchanges such as LedgerDex?

It can be traded peer to peer and it will be based on the agreed price, if you are talking about trading only or buying and selling it can be done peer to peer, tokens or coins are listed in the exchanges so people will know the price or the value of the particular token and to see if there is a huge demand in the market.

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