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After this thread - Policy on users like this guy? - and seeing pretty rapid action being taken against the user responsible as well as said user then ceasing this copy and paste shilling spam, I figured I would compile a list of other users who display the same behavior patterns for the mods to review and hopefully take action against. And honestly, I'm getting kinda bored of reporting the same names over and over again. The users I will list below are users who either own or are being paid by a site or variety of sites to shill said sites. They largely post copy and pasted articles, add nothing of any value, and make zero effort to generate a discussion or actually contribute to the forum. Some also make low value, vaguely on-topic posts solely for the reason of shoehorning in a link to one of the sites. They are breaking rules regarding spam, low value posts, unsubstantial advertising, and advertising in other users' threads. I'm hoping that the moderators will hand out temporary bans to these users, and escalate this to perma-bans if their spamming doesn't stop. User: -Multivitamina-Shilling "forklog.media". All posts are copy and paste spam with a link appended. Makes zero effort to contribute or discuss. 8 threads deleted from Bitcoin Discussion in last few weeks. Also spams Altcoin Discussion. User: JgilpulgShilling "bitcoinist". All posts are copy and paste spam. Constant and repeat offender in the Press board. 44 threads trashed by moderators. User: jdebuntShills "fintoism.com". Recently "woke up" and began pattern of shilling behavior. Another repeat offender in the Press board. 15 threads trashed so far. User: JessicaVLShills a variety of projects, including "tap.global", "eToro.com", "4king.com" and "vertex.market". Starts a lot of copy and paste threads in Bitcoin Discussion. Also makes lots of low value posts in other user's threads simply to include a link to one of the shilled projects.
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February 06, 2020, 09:14:55 PM Last edit: February 07, 2020, 11:15:46 AM by -Multivitamina- |
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Hi @o_e_l_e_o. Did I break the rules of this forum? To the best of my knowledge, I didn't.
What I basically do is share one exclusive article per day. I personally believe that the bitcointalk's community may benefit from these features. Moreover, the community proved my belief to be reliable. The users like content that I share. Just take a look at the number of views and messages in the threads. That's why I share the articles. And that's why I don't understand why some of the topics have been deleted.
Please elaborate what's the problem. Otherwise, it truly looks like a witch-hunt.
Anyway, if this forum is not the right place to share important content for the community I will stop doing this immediately. But would the community benefit from it? Let's ask the community, maybe?
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User: Bitcoin_chaserThis user registered on January 08, 2020 and has made 9 topics till now. All topics contain link to a specific website. All other posts of Bitcoin_chaser has been made on different gambling threads for advertising purposes with links to a website. The most annoying part of posts this user makes is that he/she quotes the whole topic Post history: Page 1Page 2
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Did I break the rules of this forum?
Yes: 1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]
Let's ask the community, maybe?
You already got your answer. The community has reported your low-value threads and moderators have deleted them.
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Totally agree with o_e_l_e_o . I’m really glad you brought this up . I’ve been following a couple of these members and it does appear that advertising/shilling is going on. In particular JessicaVL - always a link and going through post history there’s a re hashing of old posts with a slightly different subject header , but the post is a rehash of older posts .. Multivitamina - it appears that you were going down the same road , just sharing an article is not news tbh . Members may view the post , but may well not read it at all . My posting history is not perfect , but what I don’t do is just repeat something I’ve seen or heard and put on this forum . This is not a witch hunt I believe , but do take some advice .
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Did I break the rules of this forum? As I said in my post above, this kind of behavior breaks rules regarding spamming, low value or uninteresting threads, and unsubstantial advertising. Just take a look at the number of views messages in the threads. This is a useless metric, I'm afriad. You are posting on Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion. These boards are some of the core posting areas of bounty spammers. Pretty much any thread will get views and replies. Take a look at some of the utterly trash topics which are getting hundreds of replies and thousands of views: Example 1, Example 2, Example 3. And that's why I don't understand why some of the topics have been deleted. Because you are not using the forum for its intended purpose, which is to discuss ideas. You are abusing the forum for free advertising for your site. Anyway, if this forum is not the right place to share important content for the community I will stop doing this immediately. I would hardly call a bunch of blog posts "important content".
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Hi! I'm kinda related to this online magazine.
What does "kinda" mean? The users sig spammers like content that I share. FTFY it truly looks like a witch-hunt. Don't be a complete dick.
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What does "kinda" mean?
I'm not entirely sure if you want the literal meaning of the word (probably not), but... kinda = kind of; it's like...; In his case, kinda is obviously an yes. Our goal is to -snip-
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After this thread - Policy on users like this guy? - and seeing pretty rapid action being taken against the user responsible as well as said user then ceasing this copy and paste shilling spam, I figured I would compile a list of other users who display the same behavior patterns for the mods to review and hopefully take action against. And honestly, I'm getting kinda bored of reporting the same names over and over again. snip I wish there was a rule that would forbid these kind of actions. The forum isn't a clipboard, it's a community where you talk and speak your mind, way too many are using it as a "Paste" button to their crappy articles. Hi @o_e_l_e_o. Did I break the rules of this forum? To the best of my knowledge, I didn't.
What I basically do is share one exclusive article per day. I personally believe that the bitcointalk's community may benefit from these features. Moreover, the community proved my belief to be reliable. The users like content that I share. Just take a look at the number of views messages in the threads. That's why I share the articles. And that's why I don't understand why some of the topics have been deleted.
Please elaborate what's the problem. Otherwise, it truly looks like a witch-hunt.
Anyway, if this forum is not the right place to share important content for the community I will stop doing this immediately. But would the community benefit from it? Let's ask the community, maybe?
20 out of your 21 posts (I've excluded your replies to accusations) are copy-pasted articles from forklog. That's equal to more than 95% of your posts so far being copy-pasted stuff. If this is what you believe belongs on BitcoinTalk, I guess we're sorry to say you're more than wrong. Imagine if everyone did the same thing you're doing on the forum. It would become home to a sh*tload of copied articles. It's like every time you try to talk to someone, they pull out a magazine and start reading out loud from it. Contribution to the forum is appreciated, what you're doing is not. If by "kinda related" to forklog you mean you're working with them by promoting their articles (or writing articles for them), go get some paid advertisements. This forum is no home to free ads. I'm not entirely sure if you want the literal meaning of the word, but...
kinda = kind of; it's like...;
It's an easy answer he/she is trying to avoid. It's very simple: you either are affiliated with them or you're not.
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Did I break the rules of this forum? As I said in my post above, this kind of behavior breaks rules regarding spamming, low value or uninteresting threads, and unsubstantial advertising. Just take a look at the number of views messages in the threads. This is a useless metric, I'm afriad. You are posting on Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion. These boards are some of the core posting areas of bounty spammers. Pretty much any thread will get views and replies. Take a look at some of the utterly trash topics which are getting hundreds of replies and thousands of views: Example 1, Example 2, Example 3. And that's why I don't understand why some of the topics have been deleted. Because you are not using the forum for its intended purpose, which is to discuss ideas. You are abusing the forum for free advertising for your site. Anyway, if this forum is not the right place to share important content for the community I will stop doing this immediately. I would hardly call a bunch of blog posts "important content". I don't deem my threads a low value or uninteresting. But as far as I ain't the one who should decide I refer to your own metrics. And the metrics say that the community has proved my statement to be correct. And anyway, why is this thread is not popular, then? You're right. I don't discuss things much but I provide the community with interesting topics to discuss, so I use the forum for its intended purpose, which is to discuss ideas. My posting history is not perfect , but what I don’t do is just repeat something I’ve seen or heard and put on this forum .
I just checked your posting history. You did repeat something you've seen or heard and put on this forum. Nice catch, isn't it? Imagine if everyone did the same thing you're doing on the forum. It would become home to a sh*tload of copied articles. Contribution to the forum is appreciated, what you're doing is not. This forum is no home to free ads.
So you're basically saying that it is better to promote casinos for payments than share exclusive content without being paid for it. --- What I can see here is that a bunch of bounty hunters with paid signatures (20kevin20, o_e_l_e_o, suchmoon, hosseinimr93) accuses person who shares exclusive content without receiving any benefits for it. No offense but that's just too much.
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February 07, 2020, 08:05:09 AM Last edit: February 07, 2020, 08:26:23 AM by NeuroticFish |
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I don't deem my threads a low value or uninteresting.
Self-evaluation is in most cases incorrect and basically means nothing. No offense, it's the case for anyone. I don't know all the names from the topic, but the ones I know do fit in that category. And I agree to @o_e_l_e_o : mods will have to check the facts and make a decision. All the rest of the discussion is basically meaningless and you don't have to "convince us". The facts are there to be checked. PS: shouldn't be the advertising like this stay in the product ANN thread (at most!) ?
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February 07, 2020, 08:31:55 AM Last edit: February 07, 2020, 08:44:06 AM by 20kevin20 |
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I will leave this user CoinTrendy here as an addition to the OP list. His second page of posts and half of his first is filled with this website: http://archive.fo/kE9dJAt least he does respond to the feedback coming from his readers. But his first posts are completely useless, just his link spammed everywhere.
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So you're basically saying that it is better to promote casinos for payments than share exclusive content without being paid for it.
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What I can see here is that a bunch of bounty hunters with paid signatures (20kevin20, o_e_l_e_o, suchmoon, hosseinimr93) accuses person who shares exclusive content without receiving any benefits for it. No offense but that's just too much.
First of all, I'm not a bounty hunter. Nor is suchmoon or o_e_l_e_o. In fact, they are both part of one of the best and longest standing BitcoinTalk campaign where the members with highest quality of posts on this forum "fight" for open spots. So this alone makes your statement nonsense. They're high quality posters. They're a big value to the forum. And then, there's a difference between having a promoted website in a signature and constantly spamming the forum with the same website. The latter cannot be changed unless you delete your threads and posts, while signatures can. Or are you saying that you'd rather receive advertisements and links constantly from a friend on WhatsApp rather than seeing his website or service promoted in his profile pic? You seem to answer and contradict everyone but you're ignoring the question we've all asked: what do you mean by the fact that you are "kinda related" to the website you're spamming?
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I don't deem my threads a low value or uninteresting.
Self-evaluation is in most cases incorrect and basically means nothing. No offense, it's the case for anyone. All the rest of the discussion is basically meaningless and you don't have to "convince us". The facts are there to be checked. PS: shouldn't be the advertising like this stay in the product ANN thread (at most!) ? Thanks @NeuroticFish! Re evaluation, that's my point exactly, let me quote myself today: But as far as I ain't the one who should decide I refer to your own metrics. Re discussion, I ain't interested in convincing anyone. It's up to mods to decide. I'm just trying to make my point clear. That's all. Or are you saying that you'd rather receive advertisements and links constantly from a friend on WhatsApp rather than seeing his website or service promoted in his profile pic?
You seem to answer and contradict everyone but you're ignoring the question we've all asked: what do you mean by the fact that you are "kinda related" to the website you're spamming?
I'm saying that I 'd rather receive the link to exclusive content than see a bunch of casinos ads in his profile pic and signature every time he publishes anything of "highest quality" on Bitcointalk. After all, I don't know what's an intent to publish posts. It might be either bring value or earn some satoshis, or both. It's your right to choose how to make-a-living thought. You've preferred to accuse me over clarify things first. Ultimately, I've answered "everyone's" question by saying that I share exclusive content without receiving payments or any other benefits for it. I ain't gonna elaborate more in this situation, as I ain't spamming. Good luck in your witchbounty- huntfight.
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And the metrics say that the community has proved my statement to be correct. Your threads only prove that bounty hunters like spamming in them, and this thread proves that the community agrees with me. I don't discuss things much but I provide the community with interesting topics to discuss, so I use the forum for its intended purpose, which is to discuss ideas. Doing a Google search for "bitcoin" will provide a list of topics which could be discussed. That doesn't mean that posting a screenshot of Google results is an interesting topic. who shares exclusive content without receiving any benefits for it. You've already said you are affiliated with this site. You are obviously therefore benefiting somehow from spamming it all over the forum. It's up to mods to decide. Exactly. The fact that all my reports against you are marked as "good" means the mods agree you are a spammer. It's your right to choose how to make-a-living thought. It's not your right to abuse the forum and break forum rules in the pursuit of making money, though.
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Please review my report OP User : Alex077 Legendary account http://archive.ph/KqBSRhttp://archive.ph/EBQGGOбзop pынкa Эфиpa нa 07.02.2020ETH / USD Эфиpиyм ETH в янвape выpoc нa 39 пpoцeнтoв. B пocлeднee вpeмя вeдyщий aльткoйн чyвcтвoвaл ceбя нeплoxo, и в вocкpeceньe 2 фeвpaля пpoдoлжил cвoю xopoшyю paбoтy, пoднявшиcь дo 188 дoллapoв. Пapa ETH / USD нaчaлa тopгoвaтьcя в пoнeдeльник, 3 фeвpaля, пoднявшиcь дo 193–194 дoллapoв CШA втopoй дeнь пoдpяд, oднaкo eй внoвь нe yдaлocь зaкpыть днeвнyю cвeчy вышe ypoвня 190 дoллapoв. Эфиp пoкaзaл cильный бычий cигнaл c 26 янвapя, кoгдa oн нaшeл cвoe тeкyщee днo в 160 дoллapoв. Oднaкo дoлгocpoчнoe вoccтaнoвлeниe, cкopee вceгo, пpoxoдилo чepeз пpeoдoлeниe yпoмянyтoгo ypoвня и coздaниe ocнoвы для aтaки пcиxoлoгичecкoй oтмeтки в 200 дoллapoв... https://crypto.kg/threads/obzor-rynkov-bitkojna-i-ehfira-na-07-02-2020.16040/ ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FTb1nZnG%2FScreenshot-69.png&t=665&c=MrmURHrhG-lfvg) User : voskobojn Hero account http://archive.ph/G8nz3http://archive.ph/EBQGGLTC/USD and EOS/USD – Further increase expected but not for long LTC/USD From Monday’s open when the price of Litecoin was sitting at $71.8, we have seen the price decreasing by about 7% as it came down to $66.7 at its lowest point on the next day. After this minor retracement, the price continued moving to the upside and reached $74.23 at its highest point today which is an increase of 11%. Currently, the price is still being traded above the prior high but is sitting slightly lower than at it’s highest today. Read more: https://www.fxopen.blog/ltc-usd-and-eos-usd-further-increase-expected-but-not-for-long/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F7jMs82c%2FScreenshot-70.png&t=665&c=ThrCh_9Ofokjcw) User : DimaKHV Sr. Member account http://archive.ph/Ijwon![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FjWYVfpF%2FScreenshot-72.png&t=665&c=0PrdCidk7B1uhA) User : FOX Member account http://archive.ph/AIafaLTC/USD and EOS/USD – Further increase expected but not for long LTC/USDFrom Monday’s open when the price of Litecoin was sitting at $71.8, we have seen the price decreasing by about 7% as it came down to $66.7 at its lowest point on the next day. After this minor retracement, the price continued moving to the upside and reached $74.23 at its highest point today which is an increase of 11%. Currently, the price is still being traded above the prior high but is sitting slightly lower than at it’s highest today. EOS/USDIn the case of EOS we can see a similar situation like on Litecoin’s chart, as the price continued increasing after a minor retracement since the start of the week. From Tuesday’s low at $4 the price gainer 13.72% coming to $4.6262 at it’s highest point today, around which it is still currently being traded. Read more: https://www.fxopen.blog/ltc-usd-and-eos-usd-further-increase-expected-but-not-for-long/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F7jMs82c%2FScreenshot-70.png&t=665&c=ThrCh_9Ofokjcw)
I wonder why these users hasn't got banned, they had been very long advertise their blog by copy paste in this forum. The website they're promoting is https://forum.bits.media/https://bit.news/ https://bitnovosti.com/ https://crypto.kg/ https://www.finanz.ru/ http://www.coinfox.ru/ http://blog.fxopen.ru https://bits.media/ Alex077 is the oldest advertise users since 2015 till now. Forgive me if I'am wrong with my search, this is the first time I try reporting advertise users ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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It's not your right to abuse the forum and break forum rules in the pursuit of making money, though.
You threads only prove that bounty hunters like spamming in them, and this thread proves that the community agrees with me.
First, you accused me of abusing the forum. Then, you said that only bounty hunters read this forum. Well, it wasn't me who abused the forum, then. I respect the rules and I don't post anything to make-a-living. I explicitly said it. Stop manipulation, please. Doing a Google search for "bitcoin" will provide a list of topics which could be discussed. That doesn't mean that posting a screenshot of Google results is an interesting topic.
The given example is incorrect and unreliable, again. The screenshot of Google results contains different links and doesn't elaborate on the topics, and thus doesn't bring any value. I share exclusive content that explains what's up with crypto and why it's important. The articles provide analytics, opinions, and comprehensive research on an important matter. I do it once per day and always include a short description or lead-in, so that the community still can discuss things without clicking the link. Thus whether or not to click the link is really up to the community. Stop manipulation, please (2). You've already said you are affiliated with this site. You are obviously therefore benefiting somehow from spamming it all over the forum.
That's your assumption. You have the right to have it. I respect it. Exactly. The fact that all my reports against you are marked as "good" means the mods agree you are a spammer.
No, it means that they deem some topics to breake the rules somehow. There might be several reasons. I respect their decision, yet don't understand it. I explicitly said it as well. Anyway, I suggest that you read what's spam before you start to accuse anyone of spamming again. Stop manipulation, please (3). Forgive me if I'am wrong with my search, this is the first time I try reporting advertise users ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Another bounty- hunterfighter joins this wild witch-hunt. Good luck!
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~ This is my last reply to you, because there's no point in debating this subject with users like you. The point we're trying to make is that this forum is filled up with crap like what you're posting, which is just copy-pasting articles you consider "useful". Time has proven to all of us that explaining what's good and what isn't here to the spammers has no positive ending to +90% of the cases. To your knowledge, I have busted a ring of almost 60 members here that have actively spammed the forum with their Crowdholding and publish0x shitposting just a few days ago. If you believe this is what BitcoinTalk is for, no offense but GTFO. It's becoming annoying as hell, but busting them feels good, man. "I share exclusive content that explains what's up with crypto" It would've been different if you were here to actually participate in the threads you're posting. Again, if everyone would do what you're doing here, the forum would literally become a Paste button for all articles one might find interesting because "whether or not to click the link is really up to the community". Anyway, I suggest that you read what's spam before you start to accuse anyone of spamming again. Stop manipulation, please (3).
Good, let's do it! According to google, the definition of spam is "irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to a large number of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc". The fact that +95% of your posts were published on BitcoinTalk with links to Forklog proves our point that you're just spamming the forum. Now let's take some reference from the unofficial list of official rules BTCTalk moderators have used to moderate the forum: 24. Advertisements (including signatures within the post area) in posts aren't allowed unless the post is in a thread you started and is really substantial and useful.[9][e] Rule #24 speaks for itself and answers all your contradictions. Let me also quote theymos: It occurred to me that I should write a little about this in case anyone's wondering about what dogie's doing, or why other people are getting banned for somewhat similar activity:
Ads are typically not allowed in posts (outside of the signature area) because they are annoying and off-topic. It is especially disallowed to put ads or signatures at the bottom of all of your posts. Except for traditional valedictions, which are tolerated but discouraged, signatures are for the signature area only.
However, if you are using the forum as a publishing platform to host something really substantial and useful, selling ads in that substantial work is allowed. To be eligible for this, your post must be in a topic that you started, and your post must be substantial and long enough to make the ad seem entirely insignificant. If in doubt, ask me.
Now before you call us bounty/witch hunters/fighters, maybe you should take into consideration the fact that it's the forum vs you. Just because you think what you're doing is okay doesn't make it okay. Take care.
Edit: By the way, Hi! I'm kinda related to this online magazine. Our goal is to explain what's up with crypto and why it's important. I share our posts here on Bitcointalk because I believe that the community may benefit from these features.
I'm still wondering how you're not benefiting from sharing only Forklog posts when in your own post you mentioned the collective pronoun "our". This makes me conclude that it's not about just you finding the articles, it makes me conclude there's definitely more than that to it. The fact that you've ignored our question until I said it and your response was "I ain't gonna elaborate more in this situation" just proves our point again. I'll put the quote above right next to the quote below and voila! You've just basically busted yourself. By "our", you've basically admitted you're part of Forklog one way or another. I share exclusive content that explains what's up with crypto and why it's important. The articles provide analytics, opinions, and comprehensive research on an important matter. "Our goal".. "I share exclusive content".. These two "kinda" link, don't they? And then, FINALLY, because I've wasted enough time debunking all this situation, I had a quick Google lookup of the "exclusive" articles you've posted and the same quantity of information can easily be found on a lot of websites. By "exclusive" I understand insight information you can't find somewhere else.
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You've already said you are affiliated with this site. You are obviously therefore benefiting somehow from spamming it all over the forum.
That's your assumption. You have the right to have it. I respect it. It's not an assumption if you have already admitted it: Hi! I'm kinda related to this online magazine. Our goal is to explain what's up with crypto and why it's important. If you aren't being paid, then the only logical conclusion is that either you, or a team you are part of, own and operate this site.
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I have a decent number of reported posts for all users from OP, and two of them are as observed mostly post in Press board content that is in most cases not in any way related to Bitcoin. I must admit JessicaVL has invested the most creativity in her/his post, but this does not in any way diminish the fact that this is an advertisement that does not belong in the post area.
I hope that the moderators will take a much firmer stance on this type of behavior, as this is obviously about the intention to use the forum as an advertising platform against the rules of the forum.
I would advise anyone mentioned in this thread to take advantage of the ability to advertise through an avatar, personal text or signatures which are completely legitimate ways to promote something.
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