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February 23, 2020, 11:33:18 PM
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the problem with destruction is that it depends how you interpret it, there are people who think a fisher is a destroyer. as he takes fish from a fishstocks and removes biomass out of an ecosphere.

If the fish are ocean fish, stocks wil be replenished naturally. If they are hatchery fish, the hatchery feeds the fish. No destruction.

Even if the ocean fish are fished out of existence, they really aren't. There are tiny pockets of them that will grow back. But it might take decades.

Ocean fishing laws simply keep certain fish available so that they can be fed to people at greater cost. It makes more money for the commercial fishermen.

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jeah partially correct

ocean fishing cartels and regulations are about maintaining fishing stocks, they exclude others from also doing industrial fishing, they end up being excluding foreigners

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February 24, 2020, 09:28:36 AM
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Wow, so much misinformation. International regulations state that the waters surrounding countries, are part of those countries, and the country has sole fishing rights within those waters. One of the hiidden sources of revenue for the EU is the fish that was taken fron British waters by the French, and other EU slave states. If the French don't want to buy our fish, then they can do without, but they won't be able to steal them, and if they try, then they can expect a revival of the cod wars.

Why is the EU bankrupt, well ignoring the fact that is is not European - two of the largest economies ( Russia and the UK) are not part of it, and it is not united, as there is so much unrest and rebellion amongst the member states. It is also riddled with debt, and shows no intention to reduce its profligate practices.
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February 24, 2020, 01:35:36 PM
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There is a 12-mile legal limit around all major countries, where the waters are considered part of their country.

There is a 200-mile economic limit around all countries where they can enforce fishing and other economic activities.

Probably the seasteading problems Elwar faced in Thailand had to do with the 200-mile economic limit. Without getting into Thai legal understandings, we won't know if Elwar's thing was considered an economic thing by Thailand, even though it was outside the legal limits of the waters that are considered an actual part of Thailand.

If you want to be safe from a country in international waters, you need to go beyond the 200-mile limit, but if only beyond the 12-mile limit, absolutely do nothing that can be considered business regarding the waters.

Note that the miles are nautical miles, which are slightly different from standard miles.

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February 29, 2020, 08:34:29 PM
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Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.
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March 01, 2020, 09:07:20 AM
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Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

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March 01, 2020, 02:01:21 PM
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In my opinion, the united kingdom will never trade with Britain for fishing because not everyone within the UK may be a fisherman. They affect different companies before trading. If the upper countries import it then they will attempt to trade. Also, before the export of fish to the EU in Britain, everyone works as a fisherman.

britain will be like an african country, unable to maintain an industrial fishing fleet they will sell their fishing rights to the japanese, or the chinese. instead of sharing the european seas with their neigbours.

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March 02, 2020, 04:39:21 PM
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Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

Yes. EU have money to use every year. What members of EU contribute. But OP claims that EU will bankrupt. You cant bankrupt if you have no loans to pay off. EU have no loans. EU can never bankrupt. It can cease to exist when its members will see no reason for it to exist. So far everyday are more reasons to exist. You mention Turkey, you mention middle east, you mention Russia. You forgot to mention China and USA. Lets not forget Africa.

Most of countries in EU on their own are nothing. Few countries in EU on their own are something, but nothing compared to what EU is. Countries just need to cooperate in almost everything. Together do space program. Together develop weapons. There is no need that France makes own tank or submarine or fighter jet and Germany builds own and Spain builds own.  We will all build one together.

EU is here to stay for a very long time! 
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March 03, 2020, 03:31:56 AM
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Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

Yes. EU have money to use every year. What members of EU contribute. But OP claims that EU will bankrupt. You cant bankrupt if you have no loans to pay off. EU have no loans. EU can never bankrupt. It can cease to exist when its members will see no reason for it to exist. So far everyday are more reasons to exist. You mention Turkey, you mention middle east, you mention Russia. You forgot to mention China and USA. Lets not forget Africa.

Most of countries in EU on their own are nothing. Few countries in EU on their own are something, but nothing compared to what EU is. Countries just need to cooperate in almost everything. Together do space program. Together develop weapons. There is no need that France makes own tank or submarine or fighter jet and Germany builds own and Spain builds own.  We will all build one together.

EU is here to stay for a very long time! 

you are wrong, the members are bankrupt not the EU.

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March 03, 2020, 03:07:53 PM
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Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

Yes. EU have money to use every year. What members of EU contribute. But OP claims that EU will bankrupt. You cant bankrupt if you have no loans to pay off. EU have no loans. EU can never bankrupt. It can cease to exist when its members will see no reason for it to exist. So far everyday are more reasons to exist. You mention Turkey, you mention middle east, you mention Russia. You forgot to mention China and USA. Lets not forget Africa.

Most of countries in EU on their own are nothing. Few countries in EU on their own are something, but nothing compared to what EU is. Countries just need to cooperate in almost everything. Together do space program. Together develop weapons. There is no need that France makes own tank or submarine or fighter jet and Germany builds own and Spain builds own.  We will all build one together.

EU is here to stay for a very long time! 

you are wrong, the members are bankrupt not the EU.

Then I am right. EU is not bankrupt as OP claimed.

About different European countries you are right. Some of them will have serious problems after this economic crysis. But so will have a lot countries allower the world. That is how economy evolved in last century. A economy of debt. Not just on country level but everywhere. 

Here you have European countries debts. All with less then 50% should be fine. All over 90% will have serious problems. And standard in those countries will decrease a lot.   https://www.statista.com/statistics/269684/national-debt-in-eu-countries-in-relation-to-gross-domestic-product-gdp/

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March 03, 2020, 03:17:26 PM
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Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

Yes. EU have money to use every year. What members of EU contribute. But OP claims that EU will bankrupt. You cant bankrupt if you have no loans to pay off. EU have no loans. EU can never bankrupt. It can cease to exist when its members will see no reason for it to exist. So far everyday are more reasons to exist. You mention Turkey, you mention middle east, you mention Russia. You forgot to mention China and USA. Lets not forget Africa.

Most of countries in EU on their own are nothing. Few countries in EU on their own are something, but nothing compared to what EU is. Countries just need to cooperate in almost everything. Together do space program. Together develop weapons. There is no need that France makes own tank or submarine or fighter jet and Germany builds own and Spain builds own.  We will all build one together.

EU is here to stay for a very long time! 

you are wrong, the members are bankrupt not the EU.

Then I am right. EU is not bankrupt as OP claimed.

About different European countries you are right. Some of them will have serious problems after this economic crysis. But so will have a lot countries allower the world. That is how economy evolved in last century. A economy of debt. Not just on country level but everywhere. 

Here you have European countries debts. All with less then 50% should be fine. All over 90% will have serious problems. And standard in those countries will decrease a lot.   https://www.statista.com/statistics/269684/national-debt-in-eu-countries-in-relation-to-gross-domestic-product-gdp/



well greece will get its situation fixed, with the eu border billions

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March 25, 2020, 01:04:27 PM
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In my opinion, the united kingdom will never trade with Britain for fishing because not everyone within the UK may be a fisherman. They affect different companies before trading. If the upper countries import it then they will attempt to trade. Also, before the export of fish to the EU in Britain, everyone works as a fisherman.

britain will be like an african country, unable to maintain an industrial fishing fleet they will sell their fishing rights to the japanese, or the chinese. instead of sharing the european seas with their neigbours.

Yeah of these developed countries will never support fishing and it's difficult to seek out fishermen in their country. they need never been ready to trade with the fisherman within the current country Britain and China will attempt to stand back from them.
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