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February 11, 2020, 07:34:39 PM
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You know Corona Virus is something that is showing motality rate even more than the SARS. 
But in between all this economic, social , political crisis one can notice how it's integrating Nations together.
US is pledging to donate millions to fight this and more than 21 countries are sending medical supplies to China.
Even Indian President came out to Help China and they even are talking about rescuing the Pakistani Students from Wuhan .
This is really great , yes I know it sounds lame but countries are discarding their boundaries and working together , this is the system of government we should have .
This is precisely how the economic stability will be achieved.
I think this is the only good thing the Virus is doing.
What do you guys think ? Is this something that might show us the path of global Peace ? .
Everybody is helping but in the same time they hold the virus at a safe distance. Usually nations change their behaviour when facing a serious threat, like this virus.
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February 11, 2020, 07:52:57 PM
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sorry to say this but it looks like your happy with what the virus had bought  .they are uniting and helping the affected country but this is only for this moment  .

 by the time that the problem is sort , these countries will becom selfish again and start whatever wars they have postponed or planning  . that is the sad truth  , why can they just retain this mentality  forever and not only if there are major problems  . the world can be a better place  then if that happens  .
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February 11, 2020, 09:23:27 PM
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sorry to say this but it looks like your happy with what the virus had bought  .they are uniting and helping the affected country but this is only for this moment  .

 by the time that the problem is sort , these countries will becom selfish again and start whatever wars they have postponed or planning  . that is the sad truth  , why can they just retain this mentality  forever and not only if there are major problems  . the world can be a better place  then if that happens  .

That is quite true. Always when something terrible happens suddenly everyone remember they are humans and get the sense of solidarity and need for helping each other. But not because of other.people but themself.
As soon as they will feel the danger is over everything will go back to old track until once something so big and terrible happens that will destroy the whole human race. Once the threath from virus is gone money and profit will again become the most important things.

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February 11, 2020, 10:30:32 PM
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Not really, and remember every country has interests, goals and future endeavors through these supports, we are really know that Corona virus is really dangerous for all the humans not just chinese and it is certain  China is the biggest affected because of this virus  and now its economy is in decline or dip, but I guess that China will overcome this crisis in the near future ( possibly within 2 months ) , This is a humanitarian crisis so of course many countries will show the  solidarity with China but as I have said there is always a future endeavors for each action.
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February 12, 2020, 07:44:41 AM
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You know Corona Virus is something that is showing motality rate even more than the SARS. 
But in between all this economic, social , political crisis one can notice how it's integrating Nations together.
US is pledging to donate millions to fight this and more than 21 countries are sending medical supplies to China.
Even Indian President came out to Help China and they even are talking about rescuing the Pakistani Students from Wuhan .
This is really great , yes I know it sounds lame but countries are discarding their boundaries and working together , this is the system of government we should have .
This is precisely how the economic stability will be achieved.
I think this is the only good thing the Virus is doing.
What do you guys think ? Is this something that might show us the path of global Peace ? .

There’s no doubt that many countries are supporting China because of this disaster, but once the virus settles down they’ll seek answers from China and will even corner them globally as many countries are suffering trade losses due to coronavirus. Further there won’t be any war but there won’t be any peace either, and it’s only a matter of time before Trump tears in to China for the mess that they have created.
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February 12, 2020, 08:41:21 AM
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Lol, this is not the first time that are countries are helping each others. When such things as similar to this happens they always help out each other. So it is normal, all this while, why didn’t they all contribute to help countries with bad economy? All of them works towards their own needs of being a better and stronger country and being above others. So, the competition wouldn’t stop.

But, when there is an epidemic as bad as this, they will always be some countries coming together to help. I wish it was as you have imagined; if countries around the world would come together and work with each other and promote peace and unity, and try their best in making the world a better place for each other, and not just the government, including the people themselves. The rich should try to help the poor.

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February 12, 2020, 12:38:31 PM
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Global problems are uniting humanity and this is great
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February 12, 2020, 01:02:39 PM
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Lol, this is not the first time that are countries are helping each others. When such things as similar to this happens they always help out each other. So it is normal, all this while, why didn’t they all contribute to help countries with bad economy? All of them works towards their own needs of being a better and stronger country and being above others. So, the competition wouldn’t stop.

But, when there is an epidemic as bad as this, they will always be some countries coming together to help. I wish it was as you have imagined; if countries around the world would come together and work with each other and promote peace and unity, and try their best in making the world a better place for each other, and not just the government, including the people themselves. The rich should try to help the poor.
Rich should try to help the poor? I some cases but most of the time there would always be that inequality in terms to that.
As you said this isnt something new that we do saw that people or other country do tries to help to those country which are on need.
Also when it comes on widespread disease which is somewhat alarming and really very hard to ignore.
Theres still chance or hope for humanity in terms of unity.

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February 12, 2020, 03:49:49 PM
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Honestly I do not think that "tracking" is as big of a deal as you might imagine it is. Normally it could be to prevent bad people to do something easily. Just to give an example in my country you buy airplane/train/bus/ship whatever tickets with your ID, what is the reason for this?

It is to prevent bad people to do any of this without showing ID, sure they can make a fake one and do whatever but in the end it is making their life a bit harder by giving other people harder time as well.

Or for example, when you go to doctors or you buy a drug because of it, you have to show ID and it all goes to government, but that is because we have a single payer system which means government has to make sure we don't steal those drugs and constantly get new drugs all the time, otherwise people would have abused it. So, it is not about "tracking" but more about what they do with all that information instead.

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February 12, 2020, 10:15:44 PM
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sorry to say this but it looks like your happy with what the virus had bought  .they are uniting and helping the affected country but this is only for this moment  .

 by the time that the problem is sort , these countries will becom selfish again and start whatever wars they have postponed or planning  . that is the sad truth  , why can they just retain this mentality  forever and not only if there are major problems  . the world can be a better place  then if that happens  .

There is need for such help because things as disease and virus have a way if spreading fasters than a missile in a war fare. missile can only kill people in targeted area and mist times, people in war fare zone or less secured area which is usually inhabited by less privileged. But disease is not likely to be "respecter" of area or boundary or physical barricade and so, anybody can be affected.
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February 13, 2020, 12:13:36 AM
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Lol, this is not the first time that are countries are helping each others. When such things as similar to this happens they always help out each other. So it is normal, all this while, why didn’t they all contribute to help countries with bad economy? All of them works towards their own needs of being a better and stronger country and being above others. So, the competition wouldn’t stop.

But, when there is an epidemic as bad as this, they will always be some countries coming together to help. I wish it was as you have imagined; if countries around the world would come together and work with each other and promote peace and unity, and try their best in making the world a better place for each other, and not just the government, including the people themselves. The rich should try to help the poor.


In-state relations or relations relating to state entities I agree with the opinion that "there are no eternal friends and opponents, only eternal interests"

Amid the uncertainty of the coronavirus pandemic, each country certainly has its own views on national stability. For the country, there is nothing that is important other than the sovereignty and safety of its citizens. Whether the cover in the form of humanitarian action or extreme responses such as the suspension of flights to China must be based on the national interests of a country.

With the coronavirus. Many countries should realize that technological progress is not only having a positive impact but also having a negative effect. Ease of transportation and supported by the ease of online applications, making the spread of the epidemic faster. The big picture that we can learn is that not everything is in human control. At present we are fixated on technological progress. We forget to prepare the system or do a simulation if there is a force major and we cannot rely on technology.

Early character education is needed. Because that character will influence decision making and how they react to an event. This happened in my country, the demand for masks to go to China, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Malaysia was very high. The price of the mask which was originally only USD 2 / box is now USD 25 / box and prices go up every day. What I wonder about is the mask for humanity why there are people who hoard goods and raise prices beyond normal limits.

So not all countries are good at responding to corona outbreaks. Some even opportunists take advantage of the suffering of others. If character education is good opportunistic actions based on greed, it will never be a choice.

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February 13, 2020, 09:15:15 PM
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I don't think so. It's all temporary until the virus becomes worse than expected. If it all becomes stable, it would pretty much get back to normal. These donation acts are also just a normal way of countries helping each other but once this was sorted out, political agendas are set once again because of the people in power among these countries, especially the superpower ones.
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February 14, 2020, 06:41:00 AM
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I think this is the only good thing the Virus is doing.
What do you guys think ? Is this something that might show us the path of global Peace ? .
No. We're not even closer to world peace. And a virus doesn't have a good thing that brought us. Because I believe helping other countries were already part of being a part of United Nations. Countries need to be friend with other for alliance and in order to do that, they need to help each other. And I think that's normal for a country to help other country in need. But that's not even a big move for global peace. And I doubt that we can achieve global peace where every country is united.

And you know why other countries are helping China, it's because it's not the government they are fighting, it's the virus.
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February 15, 2020, 01:13:13 PM
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The world today really faces a very global threat, when without special containment the virus will spread throughout the world and lead to the mass extinction of mankind.  Proceeding from this government, they are trying by all means to counter this threat and are helping the Chinese government as much as they can.  In addition, I would not speak negatively about the Chinese policy of the state, since the government was able to develop the country's economy several times stronger than many other countries.  In addition, if we talk about the cryptocurrency market, but let's not forget that almost 70% of Bitcoin miners are in China.

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February 15, 2020, 01:40:38 PM
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I think this is the only good thing the Virus is doing.
What do you guys think ? Is this something that might show us the path of global Peace ? .

Global peace at a time when all countries are arming themselves to the teeth? The virus, as much as they tried to portray him as the ultimate killer, is actually much more harmless than the usual flu. If we look at the real facts then we come to the following information :

To date, total deaths from COVID-19 -> 1527 - https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/
From the effects of the flu in season 2017/2018 only in the USA 61 000 deaths, this year so far around 12 000 - https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

There is no unification here, the thing is, as always, just in the profits that go down because of the virus. Does anyone think that a country that has 1.4 billion people really loses something if even a million people die? If they had listened to the doctor who discovered the virus, things might have looked a lot better today - but they crucified it instead of decorations.

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February 15, 2020, 02:14:24 PM
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You know Corona Virus is something that is showing motality rate even more than the SARS.  
But in between all this economic, social , political crisis one can notice how it's integrating Nations together.
Sounds and looks great every time countries help one another in times of catastrophe isn't it? It also melts my heart to see the unitu and love we show to one another however it's also sad at the same time because it seems that we wait for such events first before doing such act of kindness. It's like "You're okay, I'm okay, so f*ck off" but when one is hurt the other say "Let me help you". Love and care should not only give when someone need it, it should be given to anyone, anytime and anywhere Smiley. If our world will run like this then for sure each one of us will have a joyful life.
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February 15, 2020, 07:17:17 PM
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Personally, I think that in any way. This will not affect the situation with bitcoin.
Mining farms continue to work, people still have access to their computers and the Internet, which allows them to conduct operations and transactions in cryptocurrency.
The only thing that can happen is a deficit due to which people will withdraw part of their cryptocurrency funds and assets for the purchase of some vital things, but I doubt it will come to this.
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February 16, 2020, 05:07:44 AM
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I smile "the good thing the virus is doing"?
Of course it is good when people come together to show love and concern for each other, China has been of great value to the world economy and beyond,they really need help at this moment as they could not just help themselves alone. Presently, they won't be concerned about their economy but the lives of the infected. And It will definitely reflect in the world economy.
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February 16, 2020, 08:35:21 AM
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I smile "the good thing the virus is doing"?
Of course it is good when people come together to show love and concern for each other, China has been of great value to the world economy and beyond,they really need help at this moment as they could not just help themselves alone. Presently, they won't be concerned about their economy but the lives of the infected. And It will definitely reflect in the world economy.
This thing should be normal, a country needs help so another countries help. We don't know when will our country experience bad things but as long as we don't we should help others that needed help because it is like investing, the country you helped will highly likely to help you as well when you need help and that event can also help in establishing good relation to that country that can boost multiple economy of countries when things are stable.



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February 17, 2020, 04:19:14 PM
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I guess you can talk about bad things and find the good things in it as well. Think of one of the worst things that has happened in the 20th century, holocaust (maybe something worse happened but I can't think of anything worse) and even in that, there was Volkswagen who created very cheap cars with Nazi order and managed to spend insane amount of free labor and free inventors etc etc to actually help the world out in the long run, same with Bayer company, they literally murdered and tortured many people but in the end they invented many great drugs to help the world out, look at Giza pyramid, thousands of slaves died but now we have one of the best pyramids.

Many amazing achievements in life was done by throwing human misery into it like Louis Ck has said.
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