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February 10, 2020, 05:49:34 AM
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Recently, someone from my distrust list has contacted me and ask why I have distrusted his feedback. I have no personal problem with him, no problem with his PM. I tried to share him my thoughts why I have distrusted him.
I never distrust anyone for any personal reason. I try to use the system for what it has been created. I have recently read the LoyceV's guideline on Trust List and Feedback and I am translating it into Bengali. The thread also helped me to learn the system more accurately.

I see LoyceV is maintaining a thread with a reason for each distrust user of his trust list. Should I maintain such a thread? Am I obliged to share? Personally I have no problem with sharing the reason because I am sure that I try to use the system as most accurate as possible.

PS- This thread has nothing to do with the person who has sent me PM. This thread is for learning purpose and discussion in general.

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February 10, 2020, 06:12:12 AM
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IMO you are not obliged, it's not written in the forum rules so there is no obligation to explain.
You can trust or distrust people based on your own will, you can even distrust theymos if you see he cannot be trusted, that's what you called freedom.

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February 10, 2020, 06:25:03 AM
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Much like the list itself, you can choose to talk about your reasoning behind inclusions and exclusions or you can say nothing. You can mix it in anywhere in between. It's no different than if you chose to reach out to people about their lists.
I have no issue discussing my lists personally but to each there own. If you were DT1 or something like that you may find yourself justifying some of your list to others but if they disagree but that's just part of the system, and again you can choose to respond or not.


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February 10, 2020, 06:43:30 AM
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I see LoyceV is maintaining a thread with a reason for each distrust user of his trust list. Should I maintain such a thread? Am I obliged to share?

nope. frankly, i think it's self-explanatory: if i exclude someone from my trust list, it means i don't trust their judgment and/or their use of feedback. no further justification is required.

making a thread like that just creates unnecessary drama. it ends up being a venue to air dirty laundry and accusations against other people. if that is not your goal, then just exclude who you want and move on.

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February 10, 2020, 06:53:02 AM
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For the sake of cooperation between the community members, you should. However, you are not obliged to do this and nobody can force you to do it.

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February 10, 2020, 09:07:29 AM
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Nothing wrong if someone asked you about his exclusion. Its depend you if you want to give him answer but you are not obliged to explain. You may ignore such as PM if you don't like to describe behind the reason of exclusion. This is your trust list you are free to do whatever you like, even admin wouldn't force you. But be careful with your inclusion and exclusion list, because sometimes it would cause your exclusion from other members.

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February 10, 2020, 09:22:48 AM
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Thank everyone for your valuable insights. If anyone wants reason, I will gladly tell them the reason so that they can change in future if they are wrong.

But be careful with your inclusion and exclusion list, because sometimes it would cause your exclusion from other members.
Got it but I am not thinking about that at all because my trust is building as per my own preferences. I mean which feedback I think is accurate or not is more important to me than someone distrust me although this is not the way to distrust. I do not care what other are doing with their trust list. Personally, I will never ask anyone to give a reason why they have distrusted me because it's their trust list and it's their preference of which feedback they want to see.

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February 10, 2020, 11:18:39 AM
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 I will never ask anyone to give a reason why they have distrusted me because it's their trust list and it's their preference of which feedback they want to see.
You can freely ask/respond what is the reason behind why they have excluded you from their trust list or much better move on. Stay as what you are because if someone likes your fair judgment by giving feedback, other members will probably include you from their list willingly without knowing you.

Yeah right, you can even distrust theymos because we can freely decide who will be excluded or included in our trust list. That's what our trust system work.

But for me, once you are included in my trust list you will never be excluded.

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February 10, 2020, 12:19:30 PM
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One of the reasons I made Reference topic: Why are these members excluded on trust lists?, is so I don't have to remember the reason. Looking back at my list, I haven't interacted with most of them since I excluded them.
Then again, I just like open data. But I also like freedom: you're free to do almost anything you please on this forum.


I sometimes wonder why someone is excluded by someone I trust. It makes me wonder if there's "incriminating" information I don't have.

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No, unless everyone mobs you with accusations. Then you need to explain everything or else. That is unless you are one of the "special" people, then these rules don't apply to you.
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If someone PMs you asking the reason why you've distrusted them, you could--if you wanted to be polite--tell them the reason, but you're certainly not obligated to.  Nor are you obligated to make the reason(s) public for everyone that you've distrusted.

I've had members give me a ~ that made me scratch my head, but I've never gone so far as to send anyone a PM about it.  The way I figure it, it's their right to distrust whoever they want without explanation, and I'm not going to be trusted by everyone on this forum.  So OP, do whatever you feel like doing as far as this goes.  You don't owe anyone an explanation, but that doesn't mean you have to withhold one, especially if they ask for a reason.

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If someone PMs you asking the reason why you've distrusted them, you could--if you wanted to be polite--tell them the reason, but you're certainly not obligated to.  Nor are you obligated to make the reason(s) public for everyone that you've distrusted.

I've had members give me a ~ that made me scratch my head, but I've never gone so far as to send anyone a PM about it.  The way I figure it, it's their right to distrust whoever they want without explanation, and I'm not going to be trusted by everyone on this forum.  So OP, do whatever you feel like doing as far as this goes.  You don't owe anyone an explanation, but that doesn't mean you have to withhold one, especially if they ask for a reason.

OP:

I recently tried to politely ask one person why they placed me on their distrust list only to have that person go on an irrational attack which caused another person to add me to their distrust list.

Not content that person I'd contacted then created a thread about me which has been referenced by yet another random person as an opportunity to put me at the butt of their joke.

Turns out the first person distrusts me because a long while ago I gave trust to someone else.  Said person (in the mind of the one giving me distrust) has done some transgression or other.  Instead of contacting either of us about their concerns, we were both slapped with distrust.

Cause and effect.  I randomly selected one user from a thread we post in - I now have two negatives for my trouble.



OP: If you're an unreasonable sort of person, then you'll go down this path and end up causing unnecessary grief.  If you're a reasonable person you'll respond and work through any concerns.  I've been contacted recently and worked through some issues, but that's just me.

Good luck navigating this cesspool.

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February 14, 2020, 10:15:38 AM
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You aren't obliged to. Ask yourself first, why did I distrust a certain user? your answer - because I don't trust him and when you don't trust a person you stay away from them and you don't explain to them.
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