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February 10, 2020, 12:49:43 PM
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- The ability to buy and sell bitcoins without documents.
To confirm the deal, the buyer only needs to upload a screenshot of the transaction from the payment system.

- Internal deal escrow protection system.
In case of cheating by one of the parties, the system will complete the deal or cancel it.

- A transparent system of conducting transactions.
The entire history of the transaction is available in one place, everyone receives an alert on the transaction process.

- The mechanism for sending bitcoins among network users.
Payments among network users are instant and completely free.

- Ability to publish your sites.
Each user can publish his site and put the btc amount of a click on it. If the site has no paid clicks, it will simply be displayed in alphabetical order after the paid ones.

- Ability to earn bitcoins for clicks on sites.
Every 24 hours, when you click on a paid site, you will receive the amount that the publisher determined for clicking on this site.

- Fully automated site.
All deposits and withdrawals occur instantly and automatically. Transactions are monitored by a separate protection system.

- Independence from third-party services.
The site is completely independent from other services, uses its own node and its technologies

- Mobile friendly.
The site is optimized for any mobile device.

Additional information:  https://mybtcnetwork.com/faq
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February 11, 2020, 10:57:57 PM
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Buying and selling is done directly with you or between users?

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- The ability to buy and sell bitcoins without documents.
To confirm the deal, the buyer only needs to upload a screenshot of the transaction from the payment system.

I see this as a potential photoshop problem scam artists would easily take advantage of.

Looking for a signature campaign.
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February 12, 2020, 04:37:58 AM
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- The ability to buy and sell bitcoins without documents.
To confirm the deal, the buyer only needs to upload a screenshot of the transaction from the payment system.

So the buyer would go first and your website acts as the escrow?

That sounds risky. It would be better if for each transaction you facilitate the creation of a multi-sig wallet where the buyer, seller & you take part on that transaction. Essentially a 2-of-3 wallet. Don't use a screenshot as proof, ask for a signature and tx ID at least.

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February 12, 2020, 07:21:46 AM
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Thank you for your replies!

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Buying and selling is done directly with you or between users?
- yes, between users

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I see this as a potential photoshop problem scam artists would easily take advantage of.
- To complete the deal, the seller must click on the button "release bitcoins". If the buyer forged a screenshot, the seller may not click on this button, in which case the deal will freeze after the deal expiry time and our support team will check this case. Depending on the decision, bitcoins will be transferred either back to the seller or the buyer.
If the buyer does not send the money, the deal will be automatically canceled - commission and bitcoins will be returned back to the seller



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So the buyer would go first and your website acts as the escrow?
- The buyer creates an ad. Seller agrees to the deal. Escrow reserves sellers bitcoins until the deal is completed or canceled.


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That sounds risky. It would be better if for each transaction you facilitate the creation of a multi-sig wallet where the buyer, seller & you take part on that transaction. Essentially a 2-of-3 wallet. Don't use a screenshot as proof, ask for a signature and tx ID at least.
- Thanks for the idea, we will think about it.


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February 12, 2020, 05:12:54 PM
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- To complete the deal, the seller must click on the button "release bitcoins". If the buyer forged a screenshot, the seller may not click on this button, in which case the deal will freeze after the deal expiry time and our support team will check this case. Depending on the decision, bitcoins will be transferred either back to the seller or the buyer.
How is your support team going to decide this? A screenshot literally proves nothing, so you can't use that. You say no documents are required, which leaves support nothing to base their decision on.
Unless of course you're going to escrow funds from both buyer and seller, but you'll quickly run into AML problems yourself by transfering funds to and from anonymous sources.

Allow me to highlight your Trust score in this topic: Loading..., I think this is important to see before trusting your site.

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February 13, 2020, 07:51:01 AM
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- To complete the deal, the seller must click on the button "release bitcoins". If the buyer forged a screenshot, the seller may not click on this button, in which case the deal will freeze after the deal expiry time and our support team will check this case. Depending on the decision, bitcoins will be transferred either back to the seller or the buyer.
How is your support team going to decide this? A screenshot literally proves nothing, so you can't use that. You say no documents are required, which leaves support nothing to base their decision on.
Unless of course you're going to escrow funds from both buyer and seller, but you'll quickly run into AML problems yourself by transfering funds to and from anonymous sources.

Allow me to highlight your Trust score in this topic: http://loyce.club/trust/images/2549419.gif, I think this is important to see before trusting your site.

Thanks for your reply!
There are several ways to prove that a transaction was or was not at all. If one screenshot is not enough, the support service may request screenshots from the seller by transaction id +
the buyer can generate a pdf report with this transaction where all meta-data will be visible. We also have a couple of tricky ways to determine who is still right, but that's another story.
In the extreme case, when there is no full confidence in the correctness of one of the parties, you can make a remote connection to the seller / buyer for live viewing of the transaction in read-only mode.

Regarding my rating, I’m very sorry that you didn’t pay attention to which posts I received this rating. A year ago, an investment game script was on sale, not everyone liked it.
The script was never sold, there was no deception.
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February 13, 2020, 09:35:53 AM
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Regarding my rating, I’m very sorry that you didn’t pay attention to which posts I received this rating. A year ago, an investment game script was on sale, not everyone liked it.
The script was never sold, there was no deception.

Starting the blame game 11 posts in?

Your system will not work because it is centralized.  I'm confident you would take any coin from investments and run.

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February 13, 2020, 09:44:04 AM
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There are several ways to prove that a transaction was or was not at all. If one screenshot is not enough, the support service may request screenshots from the seller by transaction id +
the buyer can generate a pdf report with this transaction where all meta-data will be visible. We also have a couple of tricky ways to determine who is still right, but that's another story.
In the extreme case, when there is no full confidence in the correctness of one of the parties, you can make a remote connection to the seller / buyer for live viewing of the transaction in read-only mode.
So, basically, you're confirming what I said: you can't possibly know for sure who's right or wrong.

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Regarding my rating, I’m very sorry that you didn’t pay attention to which posts I received this rating.
That's a cute way of saying "sorry not sorry".
I know exactly what you did, and what you did shows bad intentions.

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February 13, 2020, 10:41:49 AM
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Your system will not work because it is centralized

thanks for reply!

Why do you think that it is centralized? The site does not need any personal data from you (we don’t take cases of problems with deals where the support service is involved), you can withdraw your bitcoins at any time 24/7, thanks to our btc node.

I'm confident you would take any coin from investments and run.
For example, in due time, someone first trusted the localbitcoins site ... but it could be a one-day company, unfounded accusation.
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So, basically, you're confirming what I said: you can't possibly know for sure who's right or wrong.

For you to see with your own eyes a transaction on paypal is not lucky proof?

Regarding my rating, I’m very sorry that you didn’t pay attention to which posts I received this rating.
That's a cute way of saying "sorry not sorry".
I know exactly what you did, and what you did shows bad intentions.
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I wrote to the forum support service to review the complaints of users of that time, if it makes you feel better. I believe that their claims are emotional and not constructive.
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February 13, 2020, 10:52:08 AM
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For example, in due time, someone first trusted the localbitcoins site ... but it could be a one-day company, unfounded accusation.

Um, it's so like founded dude. 

Research the term "centralized" to start.  :/

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For example, in due time, someone first trusted the localbitcoins site ... but it could be a one-day company, unfounded accusation.

Um, it's so like founded dude. 

Research the term "centralized" to start.  :/

On mybtcnetwork.com you are dealing with humans, you make a trade directly with another person.
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For example, in due time, someone first trusted the localbitcoins site ... but it could be a one-day company, unfounded accusation.

Um, it's so like founded dude.  

Research the term "centralized" to start.  :/

On mybtcnetwork.com you are dealing with humans, you make a trade directly with another person.


For those who want to trade safe, they can always use localbitcoins. There are too many scam exchanges already so no one will try new sites. At first they all claim to not need kyc too until someone deposits a big amount and the exchange "so call holds" the coins and ask for all sorts of shit from the customer. Same ol same ol mate. Besides that you are also selling a ponzi script. So you intentions here is pretty clear. Wait for a big fish and close shop.
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February 13, 2020, 11:13:42 AM
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- Fully automated site.
All deposits and withdrawals occur instantly and automatically. Transactions are monitored by a separate protection system.

Can you explain your transaction monitoring system?
I hope is not monitoring by you and waiting for your approval.


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I wrote to the forum support service to review the complaints of users of that time, if it makes you feel better. I believe that their claims are emotional and not constructive.


you are joking with us?
Promote Ponzi scam schemes, and saying that negative rating because of that is emotional?

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February 13, 2020, 11:32:46 AM
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- Fully automated site.
All deposits and withdrawals occur instantly and automatically. Transactions are monitored by a separate protection system.

Can you explain your transaction monitoring system?
I hope is not monitoring by you and waiting for your approval.

Thanks for reply!

Oh, sure!
None of the people monitor the deal. This is followed by a system with its own workflows. From beginning to end, users are given clear instructions on what needs to be done to successfully close a deal. Each deal has 2 days. If the buyer agreed to the deal, but did not make the payment (this is confirmation button in the system) in the allotted time, the system will simply cancel the deal and return the bitcoins back. And vice versa, if the payment was made, but the seller for some reason did not release bitcoins, the deal will be frozen. What happens after you can read in the correspondence above. I hope I answered your question.


you are joking with us?
Promote Ponzi scam schemes, and saying that negative rating because of that is emotional?

I would not want to focus on this. Just say one thing, the ad was put in the appropriate section where there were a lot of such ads.
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February 13, 2020, 11:39:20 AM
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I hope your village loses internet access. 

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February 13, 2020, 12:37:43 PM
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Vod, examplens:

Thank you for the bad trust, it seems that you are on this forum only to spoil someone.
You cannot have a constructive discussion about a new product. I hope you feel better and you have received your long-awaited satisfaction.   Cheesy
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Thank you for the bad trust, it seems that you are on this forum only to spoil someone.
You cannot have a constructive discussion about a new product. I hope you feel better and you have received your long-awaited satisfaction.   Cheesy
You seem to think we haven't seen all of this countless times already.

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Thank you for the bad trust, it seems that you are on this forum only to spoil someone.
You cannot have a constructive discussion about a new product. I hope you feel better and you have received your long-awaited satisfaction.   Cheesy
You seem to think we haven't seen all of this countless times already.

I believe, but this is not a reason to treat everything with contempt. Sometimes you need to pause ...  Roll Eyes
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Last edit: February 19, 2020, 10:51:06 AM by eggdrop
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We are glad to inform you that now we have an affiliate system.
The referral system is as follows:

For 1-2 invited users: you get 1% of deals and published referral sites.
3 and more - 2% of deals and published referral sites.
7 and more - 5% of deals and published referral sites.
15 and more - 10% of deals and published referral sites.
50 and more - 15% of deals and published referral sites.
120 and more - 20% of deals and published referral sites.

To be rewarded, the invited referral must make a deal or publish a site.
The reward will be distributed automatically every day at 23:59. (CET +0100)

Making bitcoin is now much easier, join now!  Smiley

Information: https://mybtcnetwork.com/affiliate
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