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April 02, 2020, 10:20:28 PM
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A few countries have already announced going forward with the same artist for 2021 ESC, but with a different song of course:

Austria - Vincent Bueno
Australia - Montaigne
Romania - Roxen
Azerbaijan - Efendi
Belgium - Hooverphonic
Bulgaria - Victoria
Georgia - Tornike Kipiani
Greece - Stefania
Israel - Eden Alene
Spain - Blas Cantó
Switzerland - Gjon's Tears
Netherlands - Jeangu Macrooy
Ukraine - Go_A

I would expect most countries to do the same, since it's kind of unfair, to rip the artists off that possiblity basically for no reason. Don't think the domestic broadcasters, juries or whomever took the decision, can use the fact of the betting odds having been bad, to justify selecting another artist. Otoh you could argue, that it will also be a different song, which might not be as good as the 2020 one, so a new decision/selection process is reasonable. Not easy.

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April 02, 2020, 11:34:05 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that Russia will send Little Big next year, but probably it wasn't confirmed officially yet.
I'm a bit disappointed that our national broadcasterwill not send The Roop next year. They just gave them direct spot in national selection final. I think it's unfair. But I understand this decision, national broadcaster want to get big ratings and revenue from sold tickets.

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April 03, 2020, 06:20:47 AM
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But I understand this decision, national broadcaster want to get big ratings and revenue from sold tickets.

Yep, thats the problem. Even the good old ESC (and its national domestic selections) are about money nowadays. Not sure, how it is in Lithuania, but for example that Melodifestivalen in Sweden is such a big and money-making event, that throwing The Mamas under the bus is comprehensible from a financial point of view. But maybe some (at least financial) compensation would still be justified, if for example The Roop fails to win the 2021 national selection.

In Germany we had the broadcaster just picking the artist/song with no selection process at all. In cases like these, I would really like to hear the reasoning, if another entry gets chosen for 2021 Grin

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May 01, 2020, 07:59:08 PM
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A few countries have already announced going forward with the same artist for 2021 ESC, but with a different song of course:

Austria - Vincent Bueno
Australia - Montaigne
Romania - Roxen
Azerbaijan - Efendi
Belgium - Hooverphonic
Bulgaria - Victoria
Georgia - Tornike Kipiani
Greece - Stefania
Israel - Eden Alene
Spain - Blas Cantó
Switzerland - Gjon's Tears
Netherlands - Jeangu Macrooy
Ukraine - Go_A

I would expect most countries to do the same, since it's kind of unfair, to rip the artists off that possiblity basically for no reason. Don't think the domestic broadcasters, juries or whomever took the decision, can use the fact of the betting odds having been bad, to justify selecting another artist. Otoh you could argue, that it will also be a different song, which might not be as good as the 2020 one, so a new decision/selection process is reasonable. Not easy.
It seems Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Estonia and Lithuania(!) have already decided to not send their current singers to ESC2021...
https://eurovisionworld.com/esc/eurovision-2020-2021-will-the-2020-artists-compete-at-eurovision-2021

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May 16, 2020, 05:40:41 PM
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If somebody are interested, there is special event of Eurovision tongight after a bit more than hour - Europe Shine a Light where all this yerar participants will sing their songs. So, after watching Bundesliga, you may try to watch it. Live stream will be available on Youtube too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAo_LxJzALw
And after all, it seems that cancelling this year Eurovision was right decision. Probably such big events where people comefrom all corners of Europe won't be possible this year.

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May 16, 2020, 11:18:32 PM
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In Germany there was a little ESC today, which was also televised in one of the main TV stations. People could pre-vote the ten best semifinalists, that would then be presented with their songs in a little show. Denmark, Lituania and Iceland sent their artists to Hamburg and they performed live in the studio, while the remaining seven were just shown with a video clip. I didn't watch the show, but heard it was pretty garbage. Nevertheless there was a tele- and jury-voting and the winner is......


Source: https://www.eurovision.de/news/ESC-2020-Litauen-ist-Sieger-der-Herzen-im-deutschen-Finale,finale1430.html

I guess it hurts @LTU_btc Cheesy Surprised to see Bulgaria being not that well liked by germans, because it was and is still my favourite song from this years entrants. I still hear it from time to time Grin

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May 31, 2020, 06:23:15 AM
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In Germany there was a little ESC today, which was also televised in one of the main TV stations. People could pre-vote the ten best semifinalists, that would then be presented with their songs in a little show. Denmark, Lituania and Iceland sent their artists to Hamburg and they performed live in the studio, while the remaining seven were just shown with a video clip. I didn't watch the show, but heard it was pretty garbage. Nevertheless there was a tele- and jury-voting and the winner is......


I see that Denmark, Lithuania and Iceland are in the top five positions in the rankings. I wonder how much the live performances influenced the votes of the jury and the audience? Wink

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June 05, 2020, 11:11:29 AM
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I see that Denmark, Lithuania and Iceland are in the top five positions in the rankings. I wonder how much the live performances influenced the votes of the jury and the audience? Wink

It surely did to some extent, but I didn't follow the show. If we assume live performance did have a positive effect on the votings, then the result from Russia is quite impressive and reflects the general sentiment which we had in the betting markets, where Russia was among the top favourites. Then again, Bulgaria was top favo from the latests odds and they did quite poor in user and jury voting, so would have maybe been a good bet to oppose them. Malta got very good jury votes (because she is a very good singer), but wasn't liked by the users and for Denmark it was vice versa. This is just for Germany and not very representative for all those countries being able to vote, but still interesting.



As expected, Rotterdam will also be the host for the ESC 2021. 26 countries have confirmed their participation on top of the pre-qualified. The majority will also send the same artists as they initially planned/selected for this year. Still a long way to go, but I will open a thread for the 2021 edition later this year.

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Here is the thread for the 2021 edition: ESC 2021, I will lock this one.

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