Bitcoin can save some people's lives :->

[Kakmakr]

I watched a Youtube video last night about the food merchants in some of the markets in Wuhan <China> and I noticed that most of them are using electronic payment methods to pay for goods. < Wechat Pay >

Ok, it is not Bitcoin, but if more merchants using Fiat currency can switch over to Bitcoin, you might see less infections. The reason for this is simple, because the Corona virus can be transmitted from person to person via cash being used on a daily basis.

People can also do online payments with Bitcoin to avoid handling physical cash and thus avoiding infection. It can also prevent people from being infected from a host of other viruses and bacteria that can survive for days on physical coins and notes.

This is just one more reason for people to move away from physical payment methods and shifting to a cash-less financial system in the future. 

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[Ailurophile]

This is why online payment is much more better than physical payment.
We don't know how much virus or germs does one coin or paper money have since there are so many people who already touch it.
We couldn't know if some ill people have touch it before and their virus could be transmitted by it.

[valuater]

I watched a Youtube video last night about the food merchants in some of the markets in Wuhan <China> and I noticed that most of them are using electronic payment methods to pay for goods. < Wechat Pay >

Ok, it is not Bitcoin, but if more merchants using Fiat currency can switch over to Bitcoin, you might see less infections. The reason for this is simple, because the Corona virus can be transmitted from person to person via cash being used on a daily basis.

People can also do online payments with Bitcoin to avoid handling physical cash and thus avoiding infection. It can also prevent people from being infected from a host of other viruses and bacteria that can survive for days on physical coins and notes.

This is just one more reason for people to move away from physical payment methods and shifting to a cash-less financial system in the future. 

When it really happens, the bank system will be chaotic because of bitcoin, so before that happens, the main obstacle is that the bank system still cannot legalize for bitcoin to become an electronic payment.

Actually, if we discuss further the method with electronic payment can be more effective than the local payment method. of course this can be one of the innovations that can soon be realized.

[TitanGEL]

This is why online payment is much more better than physical payment.
We don't know how much virus or germs does one coin or paper money have since there are so many people who already touch it.
We couldn't know if some ill people have touch it before and their virus could be transmitted by it.

Online payment system is good and have a lot of advantages, people in Wuhan can prevent spreading virus by using digital payment system than using traditional payment system which is fiat money where the virus can spread through the use of it. I also read anarticle about it where people of Wuhan are now prefer to use digital oayment system for their safety and health concern, poor payment system is also a matter and it can solve by the use of online payment system.

[Krislaw]

Paper money and coins has been known to carry viruses like Norovirus, Hepatitis A virus, Rotavirus. Virus can survive well on coins.
Great idea to adopt digital payment like bitcoin.

[Daniel91]

I watched a Youtube video last night about the food merchants in some of the markets in Wuhan <China> and I noticed that most of them are using electronic payment methods to pay for goods. < Wechat Pay >

Ok, it is not Bitcoin, but if more merchants using Fiat currency can switch over to Bitcoin, you might see less infections. The reason for this is simple, because the Corona virus can be transmitted from person to person via cash being used on a daily basis.

People can also do online payments with Bitcoin to avoid handling physical cash and thus avoiding infection. It can also prevent people from being infected from a host of other viruses and bacteria that can survive for days on physical coins and notes.

This is just one more reason for people to move away from physical payment methods and shifting to a cash-less financial system in the future. 

Interesting example but people still have to go out in order to buy food or other things needed for everyday life.
They can use digital payment but can't eat digital food 😀
Authorities have to change laws and  create necessary regulation before crypto can become regular way of payment.
They will not do it because of Corona virus but only if they find a way to control crypto transaction, collect taxes etc.
It will not happen over night but I agree that because of such situations more people may start to use crypto in daily life and will put more pressure on authorities to accept crypto.

[davis196]

I watched a Youtube video last night about the food merchants in some of the markets in Wuhan <China> and I noticed that most of them are using electronic payment methods to pay for goods. < Wechat Pay >

Ok, it is not Bitcoin, but if more merchants using Fiat currency can switch over to Bitcoin, you might see less infections. The reason for this is simple, because the Corona virus can be transmitted from person to person via cash being used on a daily basis.

People can also do online payments with Bitcoin to avoid handling physical cash and thus avoiding infection. It can also prevent people from being infected from a host of other viruses and bacteria that can survive for days on physical coins and notes.

This is just one more reason for people to move away from physical payment methods and shifting to a cash-less financial system in the future. 

I don't really think that the coronavirus is transmitted via touching paper money,coins or anything else.
It's transmitted via air and moisture.Even if its was transmitted via touching paper money,you can see that people all over China are using gloves now.Switching from fiat money to digital money will lead to more people using Wechat Pay(like you mentioned) because it's more convenient than BTC.Very few merhcants and buyers might switch to Bitcoin or any other altcoin.

[Gumpfire]

I watched a Youtube video last night about the food merchants in some of the markets in Wuhan <China> and I noticed that most of them are using electronic payment methods to pay for goods. < Wechat Pay >

Ok, it is not Bitcoin, but if more merchants using Fiat currency can switch over to Bitcoin, you might see less infections. The reason for this is simple, because the Corona virus can be transmitted from person to person via cash being used on a daily basis.

People can also do online payments with Bitcoin to avoid handling physical cash and thus avoiding infection. It can also prevent people from being infected from a host of other viruses and bacteria that can survive for days on physical coins and notes.

This is just one more reason for people to move away from physical payment methods and shifting to a cash-less financial system in the future. 

Well, you have a point, since nowadays corona virus is scattered all around the world, and it is still present in countries affected. This is one of the ways to avoid infection. Aside from this, there are also a lot of benefits if we use cashless payments especially today, since people want to have an instant transaction, without any traffic.

About the virus, we still should be safe by having a proper hygiene because it is still the best way to avoid it. Since the virus is not air borne, so we should not worry about it and let us keep ourselves clean every time.

[Kakmakr]

I watched a Youtube video last night about the food merchants in some of the markets in Wuhan <China> and I noticed that most of them are using electronic payment methods to pay for goods. < Wechat Pay >

Ok, it is not Bitcoin, but if more merchants using Fiat currency can switch over to Bitcoin, you might see less infections. The reason for this is simple, because the Corona virus can be transmitted from person to person via cash being used on a daily basis.

People can also do online payments with Bitcoin to avoid handling physical cash and thus avoiding infection. It can also prevent people from being infected from a host of other viruses and bacteria that can survive for days on physical coins and notes.

This is just one more reason for people to move away from physical payment methods and shifting to a cash-less financial system in the future. 

I don't really think that the coronavirus is transmitted via touching paper money,coins or anything else.
It's transmitted via air and moisture.Even if its was transmitted via touching paper money,you can see that people all over China are using gloves now.Switching from fiat money to digital money will lead to more people using Wechat Pay(like you mentioned) because it's more convenient than BTC.Very few merhcants and buyers might switch to Bitcoin or any other altcoin.

That is where you are wrong my friend.  The world health officials know that the respiratory disease is capable of spreading through human-to-human contact, droplets carried through sneezing and coughing, and germs left on inanimate objects. Source : https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/researchers-say-the-coronavirus-may-be-more-contagious-than-current-data-shows.html

The Corona virus can also survive up to 9 days outside of the body, so it will definitely infect you, if you touch it on any other object other than someone's body. Source : https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2020/02/09/scientists-predict-coronavirus-may-live-for-up-to-nine-days-on-surfaces/

One of the most effective ways of killing the virus on these surfaces is to use common household products like "Bleach".    <So you will not go to jail if you wash your money> 

[20kevin20]

Cashless society sounds great when linked to Bitcoin. Otherwise, it's terrific.

First of all, why would they switch from fiat to Bitcoin in order to go cashless when they have bank accounts that are holding virtual money? Switching to BTC, especially in China where laws regarding Bitcoin are very strict and there is only one ATM in the entire country AFAIK, would be a pain in the ass.

Merchants are looking to boost their sales. Switching to Bitcoin and leaving fiat behind would kill your business.

[stompix]

Do you people actually think before writing things like this?

Ok, you pay with bitcoins, there will be no hand contact between you and the merchant, you won't be touching paper that might be infected by the merchant's hand but....

You will still touch the f%^^%%% merchandise you buy, the one the merchant and probably other customers have already touched maybe a hundred times!!!!!!!!!
It is like wearing a condom and then .... you know.....!
You won't be touching some money that might or might not be infected but you're still going to eat the bread in which that merchant sneezed a hundred times.

No wonder diseases spread like wildfire!

I don't really think that the coronavirus is transmitted via touching paper money,coins or anything else.
It's transmitted via air and moisture.Even if its was transmitted via touching paper money,you can see that people all over China are using gloves now.

That is where you are wrong my friend.   The world health officials know that the respiratory disease is capable of spreading through human-to-human contact, droplets carried through sneezing and coughing, and germs left on inanimate objects. Source : https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/researchers-say-the-coronavirus-may-be-more-contagious-than-current-data-shows.html

Viruses don't do well on paper like objects.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6282993

Influenza viruses die pretty fast in tissues and are almost impossible to transmit over a 1 hour period.
Don't confuse viruses with bacterias.

[slaman29]

I watched a Youtube video last night about the food merchants in some of the markets in Wuhan <China> and I noticed that most of them are using electronic payment methods to pay for goods. < Wechat Pay >

Ok, it is not Bitcoin, but if more merchants using Fiat currency can switch over to Bitcoin, you might see less infections. The reason for this is simple, because the Corona virus can be transmitted from person to person via cash being used on a daily basis.

People can also do online payments with Bitcoin to avoid handling physical cash and thus avoiding infection. It can also prevent people from being infected from a host of other viruses and bacteria that can survive for days on physical coins and notes.

This is just one more reason for people to move away from physical payment methods and shifting to a cash-less financial system in the future. 

Welcome to Asia my friend. We are all "backwards" in some things but because of that we are also quite innovative when it comes to technology. Wechat pay has been around for a very long time and for us QR code scanning, and ewallets have been part of our lives for a long time. I remember some tourists from Europe so surprised in my city we all tap to pay 15 years ago, and they were still using paper and coins.

And infections methods... I would be really careful and leave it to health authorities;)

[NotATether]

Bitcoin's the only payment method I can accept here as I'm not in a position to submit legal documents for a credit card. It does allow for people to make a living and get paid in stable money (the cash over here is near useless).

[Kakmakr]

Do you people actually think before writing things like this?

Ok, you pay with bitcoins, there will be no hand contact between you and the merchant, you won't be touching paper that might be infected by the merchant's hand but....

You will still touch the f%^^%%% merchandise you buy, the one the merchant and probably other customers have already touched maybe a hundred times!!!!!!!!!
It is like wearing a condom and then .... you know.....!
You won't be touching some money that might or might not be infected but you're still going to eat the bread in which that merchant sneezed a hundred times.

No wonder diseases spread like wildfire!

I don't really think that the coronavirus is transmitted via touching paper money,coins or anything else.
It's transmitted via air and moisture.Even if its was transmitted via touching paper money,you can see that people all over China are using gloves now.

That is where you are wrong my friend.   The world health officials know that the respiratory disease is capable of spreading through human-to-human contact, droplets carried through sneezing and coughing, and germs left on inanimate objects. Source : https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/researchers-say-the-coronavirus-may-be-more-contagious-than-current-data-shows.html

Viruses don't do well on paper like objects.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6282993

Influenza viruses die pretty fast in tissues and are almost impossible to transmit over a 1 hour period.
Don't confuse viruses with bacterias.

Yes, I read every post I make and I see 1000's of people dying of this virus and I want to see that Bitcoin can be used to make a difference.

The thing with fiat cash is this, MANY people handle that cash on a daily basis and the coins and notes are normally placed in the same basket, where it spreads the contamination to the other cash that are placed in that same basket. So the probability for for contamination is higher, because the contaminated cash touch other coins and note that are not contaminated. The virus are also spread through fecal matter and tests have shown that fiat cash are very dirty and a lot of it has shown traces of fecal matter.

The food merchants normally have to adhere to proper food hygiene and when a crisis like this happen, they would probably be more aware of the dangers of contamination, so they will increase measures to reduce the risk. Washing food containers & utensils in Bleach to kill the virus. (The Health inspectors will also be more vigilant, since this virus originated in live food markets.)

Also, people do not just buy physical items, they can buy virtual goods and air time, where they do not have to touch anything. If they used cash to buy this, they could have been infected. <Paying for parking meters / wearing gloves and cooking produce at high temperatures and destroying the containers or using your own.>

If you took the time to read the articles I added in my previous post, you would have noticed that test were done to determine that the virus survived up to 9 hours on physical surfaces, like metal, plastic etc..

Let's look for a better solution and not criticize other people for thinking out of the box.  

[DdmrDdmr]

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As expected at this early stage, this is where we, the general population, get fed different information and, since we are not technical enough on the matter, may misread (along with Journalists) some information that reaches us:

The WHO (World Health Organization) states on its web page (https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses) that:

It is still not known how long the 2019-nCoV virus survives on surfaces, although preliminary information suggests the virus may survive a few hours. Simple disinfectants can kill the virus making it no longer possible to infect people.

A few hours are not enough for a shipment to carry the virus in an active state (i.e. shipment sent from China), but enough for someone who has it to touch/sneeze over some physical form of money, and hand it out along with the delivery of a Pizza. Who knows about the Pizza box itself while we’re at it.

Of course, things evolve quickly in terms of knowledge of the Coronavirus, and whilst the WHO states the above, The Journal of Hospital Infection published on February the 6th the following article: https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext. Now this study seems to analyse the coronavirus family in broader terms, and is not limited to this specific outbreak, but the study claims:

The analysis of 22 studies reveals that human coronaviruses such as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) coronavirus, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) coronavirus or endemic human coronaviruses (HCoV) can persist on inanimate surfaces like metal, glass or plastic for up to 9 days <…>

By my reading, the above mentioned 9 days are rather generic, and it depends on the specific Coronavirus strain. For example, the above link encloses a section that indicates that SARS-CoV strain P9 can last on paper for up to 5 days, but strain GVU6109 lasts for less than 24h on an inanimate surface.
 
The Coronavirus we are dealing with here, 2019-nCoV, is not mentioned explicitly in the study results, so what I make from it, is that they have given a historical perspective of how long a Coronavirus may last for on an inanimate surface, based on prior studies, as a sort of framework, but not specifically on the 2019-nCoV strain.

[qwertyup23]

I watched a Youtube video last night about the food merchants in some of the markets in Wuhan <China> and I noticed that most of them are using electronic payment methods to pay for goods. < Wechat Pay >

Ok, it is not Bitcoin, but if more merchants using Fiat currency can switch over to Bitcoin, you might see less infections. The reason for this is simple, because the Corona virus can be transmitted from person to person via cash being used on a daily basis.

People can also do online payments with Bitcoin to avoid handling physical cash and thus avoiding infection. It can also prevent people from being infected from a host of other viruses and bacteria that can survive for days on physical coins and notes.

This is just one more reason for people to move away from physical payment methods and shifting to a cash-less financial system in the future. 

Going by that logic, if infections would be spread 'less' due to eliminating fiat, aren't products also infected as well?

I'm not against the your post, in fact, I am surprised that there are merchants that accept bitcoin as a payment method. China has seen the potential of cryptocurrencies and its effect in the future. I hope that countries will view this as an example in considering utilizing cryptocurrencies as a payment option.

Aside from that fact, I do agree that shifting towards a digitalized payment will inevitably happen in the future. But we cannot implement it now as there are countries from the underdeveloped and developing are slowly innovating their technology and infrastructures. They still lack the necessary technology to shift towards this payment method.

[stompix]

If you took the time to read the articles I added in my previous post, you would have noticed that test were done to determine that the virus survived up to 9 hours on physical surfaces, like metal, plastic etc..

I always take my time to read stuff and I always try to understand what I'm reading.
I gave you a link, not from a newspaper but from NCBI and the text clearly says

These observations suggest that the transmission of the virus from donors who are shedding large amounts could occur for 2-8 hr via stainless steel surfaces and for a few minutes via paper tissues

There is a huge difference between steel and paper just as there is a big one between survivability and transmission.
Also there a big difference between transmission from fomites to humans and transmission between fomites.

Yes, I read every post I make and I see 1000's of people dying of this virus and I want to see that Bitcoin can be used to make a difference.

Sorry, but to me, you sound like those people wouldn't have died if they have used bitcoin!
Are you seriously claiming this?
Do we really have to piggyback on every disaster or crisis, from a nuclear war scenario to an epidemic to show how bitcoin can save the world?
I'm starting to see bitcoiners are enjoying those lately.

Let me ask you this then:
Would you support a government ban on cash payments if they would use the disease spreading as an excuse? 

[BuNga_cute]

All the analogies you are telling do make sense. It's time to use digital currencies like bitcoin for transactions financial.
One of the benefits can avoid transmission of disease, it's an indisputable fact. So from that I always start it from myself
to always do transactions digitally. But since my country doesn't allow bitcoin as payment, I use digital transactions such
as mobile banking and internet banking to buy all the necessities of my life.

[White Christmas]

All the analogies you are telling do make sense. It's time to use digital currencies like bitcoin for transactions financial.
One of the benefits can avoid transmission of disease, it's an indisputable fact. So from that I always start it from myself
to always do transactions digitally. But since my country doesn't allow bitcoin as payment, I use digital transactions such
as mobile banking and internet banking to buy all the necessities of my life.

Yes it is a good practice that we always do online transaction or digital transaction just like mobile banking and etc because of this we will be able to purchase and do transactions through the use of mobile phone only or our personal computers, this online transactions makes our life more good and the necessity that we are gonna do so it would be better for all of us because of that we will be able to lessen our work by just doing online transaction and through the use of digital currency.

[King Raymond]

      Making payments for goods online can be advantageous, one of the reason being that you can stay anywhere convenient for you and purchase anything you may wish to purchase without necessarily needing to go to the market or a shop.
      But the idea that it prevents the spread of corona virus isn't so true. Why it is not so is because when you purchase a particular goods, whether online or not, you'll still have body contact with the goods when using it. The virus can be transmitted from an infected person to another through contact with objects that have been handled by the an infected person.
     The idea of online payment can only help in reducing the risk of exposure to the virus but not in preventing contraction of the disease.