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February 13, 2020, 01:27:59 AM
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I think we've all seen the headlines in the last couple days, but I just want to vocalize it all to ya so I can see if my line of thinking is right here. Bernie is currently the front-runner for the Democrat party, he leads in the last couple polls and I think that he's going to have the momentum going into the next couple races and (in my mind) he has the most energized of supporters which is vital to winning a primary.

Currently, 538 has the following polls out

Bernies is at 36 percent to win more then half of the delegates, and has a 52 percent chance of winning the most delegates.

No one polls at 36 percent (for half the delegates) - meaning that there would be a brokered convention in this situation.

Biden is at 17 percent to win more then half, and has a 25 percent chance of winning the most delegates.

I'll cut out the last two portions for the next two.

Buttigeg - 5 percent to win more then half
Bloomberg - 4 percent to win more then half.

If Bernie and the Berniebros can keep up their steam and he keeps the momentum rolling, Bernie is going to win the nomination (I know I said this wouldn't happen Flying Hellfish, but it probably will now) and if he doesn't have the delegates to win the nomination, and they pick someoneelse the Bernie supporters are going to (and they should) march on Washington.

This is going to get very fun, very soon.




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February 13, 2020, 02:03:37 AM
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I think we've all seen the headlines in the last couple days, but I just want to vocalize it all to ya so I can see if my line of thinking is right here. Bernie is currently the front-runner for the Democrat party, he leads in the last couple polls and I think that he's going to have the momentum going into the next couple races and (in my mind) he has the most energized of supporters which is vital to winning a primary.

Currently, 538 has the following polls out

Bernies is at 36 percent to win more then half of the delegates, and has a 52 percent chance of winning the most delegates.

No one polls at 36 percent (for half the delegates) - meaning that there would be a brokered convention in this situation.

Biden is at 17 percent to win more then half, and has a 25 percent chance of winning the most delegates.

I'll cut out the last two portions for the next two.

Buttigeg - 5 percent to win more then half
Bloomberg - 4 percent to win more then half.

If Bernie and the Berniebros can keep up their steam and he keeps the momentum rolling, Bernie is going to win the nomination (I know I said this wouldn't happen Flying Hellfish, but it probably will now) and if he doesn't have the delegates to win the nomination, and they pick someoneelse the Bernie supporters are going to (and they should) march on Washington.

This is going to get very fun, very soon.

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February 13, 2020, 05:51:55 AM
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If there are two candidates outside of the socialist wing can combine their votes to get a majority, or close to a majority of delegate votes, they may be able to stop Sanders from getting the nomination via some kind of brokered convention where one candidate endorses the other in exchange for the VP spot on the ticket.

Winning 3rd place in NH may end up in Klobuchar becoming the Vice President Nominee for democrats if she can keep it up.

Otherwise, if Biden, Buttigieg and Bloomberg each do well in various states on Super Tuesday, they may see a contested convention.

If Biden can win a majority of states on super Tuesday, plus Nevada and South Carolina, I would put him as having the best chances of winning the nomination 'cleanly'. Bloomberg may however be able to siphon off enough votes from Biden so he doesn't win a majority.

I would say that Bloomberg needs 20-25% of delegate votes on super Tuesday and subsequent primaries to possibly block anyone from getting a majority of delegate votes. If this happens, and the superdelegates can't resolve this after one vote, I predict Clinton comes in and possibly gets the nomination, possibly with a Bloomberg endorsement, and a VP of someone with a decent number of delegate votes.

I say that Clinton at least comes close to getting the nomination if she doesn't get it in a contested convention. I think the only way Sanders gets the nomination is by getting a majority of votes in the first round, unless Warren (who currently has zero) is able to bump him over the 50% threshold.
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February 13, 2020, 09:15:44 AM
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I think we've all seen the headlines in the last couple days, but I just want to vocalize it all to ya so I can see if my line of thinking is right here. Bernie is currently the front-runner for the Democrat party, he leads in the last couple polls and I think that he's going to have the momentum going into the next couple races and (in my mind) he has the most energized of supporters which is vital to winning a primary.

Currently, 538 has the following polls out

Bernies is at 36 percent to win more then half of the delegates, and has a 52 percent chance of winning the most delegates.

No one polls at 36 percent (for half the delegates) - meaning that there would be a brokered convention in this situation.

Biden is at 17 percent to win more then half, and has a 25 percent chance of winning the most delegates.

I'll cut out the last two portions for the next two.

Buttigeg - 5 percent to win more then half
Bloomberg - 4 percent to win more then half.

If Bernie and the Berniebros can keep up their steam and he keeps the momentum rolling, Bernie is going to win the nomination (I know I said this wouldn't happen Flying Hellfish, but it probably will now) and if he doesn't have the delegates to win the nomination, and they pick someoneelse the Bernie supporters are going to (and they should) march on Washington.

This is going to get very fun, very soon.

@squatz1 I feel that Bernie has a high chance of winning because he has outwitted all other Democratic candidates, and on top of that he’s even trending on Reddit front page which only shows how popular he has become. I’ll be honest as I was expecting Bloomberg to be leading with all the money behind him, but then again I don’t expect the Democrats too choose someone else if Bernie wins it, because that move will completely destroy their party and Bernie supporters will vote for Trump causing further embarrassment to the Democratic party.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/
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