Vod's Change

[Vod]

#Respect and I hope that you can end your battles with your perceived enemies over your philosophical differences..

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thx eddie13... that was quite unexpected from you.    I appreciate it!

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[TECSHARE]

#Respect and I hope that you can end your battles with your perceived enemies over your philosophical differences..

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thx eddie13... that was quite unexpected from you.    I appreciate it!

So Vod, with your newfound change, when do you plan on removing your abusive trust ratings since you are all turning over a new leaf and everything?

[Timelord2067]

@Vod, I had no idea you had a stroke last year, man I'm sorry to hear that.  I'm glad to hear you are recovering, and I sincerely wish you the best of health.

I likewise had no inkling that you'd suffered a stroke.  A work colleague had one at work and another person I know also had a stroke - both were quite debilitating.  If you're still able to be an active participant of the forum after a stroke then you are very fortunate indeed.  Please keep us updated on your progress.

I've been baffled by the power plays that have gone on year after year here - it seems people woke up on abut the 3rd of January this year and said "you know what? I think I've had enough of the bickering" which has been refreshing to see.


As to the comment to you concerning signatures:

It'll be interesting to see whether the ones getting paid $6 per post for their bile are going to be able to find things to talk about constructively, or struggle as their cash for comments dry-up.

[Vod]

I told Theymos from the start what happened to me.   The night I posted dox on the forum was one of the first times I'd "had a few" at home since the stroke.  I literally went unconscious in my chair after posting that, and when I awoke in the morning I deleted the post and worked with Theymos to clean up the damage.  I've never gotten drunk since - two beers at a social function is my absolute limit.  This may explain why Theymos suggested forgiveness.

I'm sorry if my initial post sounded like I was joining Theymos Vader.  Again, I believe Theymos feels the good that people do can outweigh the bad.  I feel the same way, but for me the "bad" does not decay and builds up.   I want to forgive faster, like he does.

[JollyGood]

@Vod - I had no idea about the issues mentioned in the OP or the background issues going back further. I will take the opportunity to wish you good health. Sorry to read about all the things that happened to you. Stay positive and do as many things as you can with your time as long as brings you happiness.

You know what I like?   Crypto and meta stats, and strategy games.    

I'm glad you've decided to move on to things that you like again, life's too short to fight on the internet

I'm looking forward to your new site.

Me too, I am looking forward to the new website/project whenever it is ready. Wish you success. And I concur, life is too short so for anybody to find something they enjoy doing is important. I hope you find happiness in whatever you decide to do and thankfully we will be seeing you around here too. If you handed BPIP over who is running it now?

@Vod, I had no idea you had a stroke last year, man I'm sorry to hear that.  I'm glad to hear you are recovering, and I sincerely wish you the best of health.

I also had no idea you have worked as a cop.  I know from experience that LEOs have a hard time with trust.  I watched as a very close family friend alienated his children, and went years without seeing them.  This weight heavy on his heart and mind until he finally was able to see his own roll and responsibilities in his family's relationship.  This wasn't until years after retirement, and only a few years before his death.

Life is too short to take things so seriously, and this is just the internet after all.  If what TMAN said is accurate, that you plan on renting a boat, do it!  Go fishing, catch some sun, knock back a few cold ones, and enjoy your time.

I hope to see you around for years to come.

An excellent post. I would like to extend those same sentiments. DireWolfM14 summed it up well, just do what you need to do as long as it makes you enjoy your time.

[teeGUMES]

I told Theymos from the start what happened to me.   The night I posted dox on the forum was one of the first times I'd "had a few" at home since the stroke.  I literally went unconscious in my chair after posting that, and when I awoke in the morning I deleted the post and worked with Theymos to clean up the damage.  I've never gotten drunk since - two beers at a social function is my absolute limit.  This may explain why Theymos suggested forgiveness.

I'm sorry if my initial post sounded like I was joining Theymos Vader.  Again, I believe Theymos feels the good that people do can outweigh the bad.  I feel the same way, but for me the "bad" does not decay and builds up.   I want to forgive faster, like he does.

I'll let you edit this before I red tag you for lying.

[dkbit98]

I would not like to be in Theymos place and I am not so sure that anyone else would do much better 'job' observing all the little clans and mini-groups in this forum.
Its getting boring also 

[Gyfts]

I was ready to abandon this forum in anger, over what I perceived as lack of morality from the forum administrator.  

What was the backstory here? What happened in which you saw a lack of morality from theymos?

[TECSHARE]

I was ready to abandon this forum in anger, over what I perceived as lack of morality from the forum administrator.  

What was the backstory here? What happened in which you saw a lack of morality from theymos?

He doesn't. He is just blame shifting to draw attention away from his own behavior preemptively because he knows Theymo's patience with him is running out after the whole doxing and reporting a user to the IRS thing. He is probably hoping he can manipulate Theymos by getting him to focus on examining his own actions and be distracted from Vod's behavior. Worked for Lauda... why shouldn't Vod try it?

[Vod]

What was the backstory here? What happened in which you saw a lack of morality from theymos?

If you really want to know, you can PM me.  Techy doesn't want the game to end, but it will.  :/

[TECSHARE]

What was the backstory here? What happened in which you saw a lack of morality from theymos?

If you really want to know, you can PM me.  Techy doesn't want the game to end, but it will.  :/

What game? You mean you abusing the trust system to serve your petty personal vendettas? You mean that "game"? Thanks for admitting you see the trust system as your personal plaything.

[JollyGood]

Is it wise to go over it again? It is in the past whatever it might have been. Apart from what I read in this thread I am unaware of the past issues too so most of it was new to me but why should you go over it again? Forget it whatever it was.

You should consider using the IGNORE button on people that you no longer want to engage with. Simply relax and take care of your health, start work on your new venture and keep posting here too just as DireWolfM14 mentioned in an post earlier.

If you really want to know, you can PM me.  Techy doesn't want the game to end, but it will.  :/

[JollyGood]

I read the links, thank you. I was not aware of them but I cannot say what sentiments Vod was going through at the time of those posts.

To be fair maybe it is time to give him some space, things do not seem right and he probably needs some time away to relax especially after the health scares. Stress and alike affect different people in different ways, maybe right now is not the time to continue it.

If you were having a bad few days and all you needed was just a little time to relax you probably would not appreciate it if you were in his shoes. At least let him return in after a short time out and hopefully in a better frame of mind before you and he can re-start hostilities? I am sorry if I speak out of turn but I am not aware as to what the issue is behind the hostilities between both of you but hopefully they can be resolved amicably (with some arbitration if necessary) then you both can start from a new page. I hope so.

He is going over it again in a pathetic attempt to elicit sympathy and deflect from his own abusive behavior. He does the same sad children's birthday party magician act every time he goes too far and is called out:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074434.0;all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144112.0

Vod avoids a logical and critical discussion of his ratings at all costs because he knows they won't withstand scrutiny. Unfortunately for me, ignoring Vod doesn't undo the damage he has done by abusing the trust system like toy to serve his own petty and obsessive personal vendettas.

[Vod]

I told Theymos from the start what happened to me.   The night I posted dox on the forum was one of the first times I'd "had a few" at home since the stroke.  I literally went unconscious in my chair after posting that, and when I awoke in the morning I deleted the post and worked with Theymos to clean up the damage.  I've never gotten drunk since - two beers at a social function is my absolute limit.  This may explain why Theymos suggested forgiveness.

I'm sorry if my initial post sounded like I was joining Theymos Vader.  Again, I believe Theymos feels the good that people do can outweigh the bad.  I feel the same way, but for me the "bad" does not decay and builds up.   I want to forgive faster, like he does.

I'll let you edit this before I red tag you for lying.

tee, I'm sorry you were still tagged from before.  I really wish you had let me know I missed you, but I guess you still have a lot of distrust for me from the past.  :/

If there is ever a conflict between events I describe now, and the same events I may have described earlier, then I will suggest the earlier description would have been correct, since my memory would have been more fresh.  I'm certainly not lying about anything. 

I'm hoping one day we can move forward, and I am going to live with your distrust, because I did do something distrustful. 

#2020peace

[TECSHARE]

I read the links, thank you. I was not aware of them but I cannot say what sentiments Vod was going through at the time of those posts.

To be fair maybe it is time to give him some space, things do not seem right and he probably needs some time away to relax especially after the health scares. Stress and alike affect different people in different ways, maybe right now is not the time to continue it.

If you were having a bad few days and all you needed was just a little time to relax you probably would not appreciate it if you were in his shoes. At least let him return in after a short time out and hopefully in a better frame of mind before you and he can re-start hostilities? I am sorry if I speak out of turn but I am not aware as to what the issue is behind the hostilities between both of you but hopefully they can be resolved amicably (with some arbitration if necessary) then you both can start from a new page. I hope so.

Yeah, I tried that. He insists on perpetuating the conflict, which frankly I don't care about until he starts abusing the trust system. Yes, yes, poor Vod. He is just being manipulative to avoid culpability for his actions just like the several other times I just showed you. Frankly I find this to be disgusting behavior that makes it difficult for people to get leeway when they actually need it. To him it is just an effective way to deflect his responsibility for his actions.

I will "give him some space" when he fixes the damage he has done to me and removes his frivolous and abusive negative ratings. He doesn't need space, he just thinks this will be an effective way to avoid responsibility for his behavior and get away with leaving up his abusive negative ratings for me.

[Vod]

Yeah, I tried that. He insists on perpetuating the conflict.

I'm sorry you feel that way.  I'll lock this thread for now to avoid perpetuating the conflict.  

[Vod]

I want to clear up some rumors idiots spread.

My stroke was caused by something that happened to me 37 years ago.  It had nothing to do with busting scammers or stress.

My house and car are paid off.  While not working for several months did drain a lot of resources, I'm not on welfare. 

Overall I lost over $2,000 developing and running BPIP.  I'm running my new project in a separate corporation and will be fundraising to develop it.  My goal is to make $1,000 a month residual income, so I can get citizenship in a caribbean country, sell my house, and retire.

I hope I can count on your support when I launch my collectible series. 

[JollyGood]

The world is your oyster... whatever you decide to do for your happiness and your health is paramount. Retiring in the Caribbean sounds like a great idea, I hope it happens at the right time when you want it to happen.

Wishing you good health and success in all your plans and endeavours. 

I want to clear up some rumors idiots spread.

My stroke was caused by something that happened to me 37 years ago.  It had nothing to do with busting scammers or stress.

My house and car are paid off.  While not working for several months did drain a lot of resources, I'm not on welfare. 

Overall I lost over $2,000 developing and running BPIP.  I'm running my new project in a separate corporation and will be fundraising to develop it.  My goal is to make $1,000 a month residual income, so I can get citizenship in a caribbean country, sell my house, and retire.

I hope I can count on your support when I launch my collectible series. 

[Vod]

The world is your oyster... whatever you decide to do for your happiness and your health is paramount. Retiring in the Caribbean sounds like a great idea, I hope it happens at the right time when you want it to happen.

Wishing you good health and success in all your plans and endeavours. 

Actually, now is the time to make the move!

Write the government, ask for a land donation on the ocean to develop new technology.  There are some hurdles, but if you can prove certain income (as low as $1000US a month) they will give you citizenship and land they can no longer sell.  At least for Canadians, anyway.

[allahabadi]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!

Vod leaving BTCtalk?

I just saw this thread; apart from all the philosophical musings and opinions (I mostly agree with Vod over here and as it is i rarely agree with theymos (not that my opinion matters)), but I am really glad u didn't leave.

On a sincere note; it wud be a disaster if Vod, suchmoon, foxpup, The Pharmacist, Jetcash, LoyceV etc. left (not taking names of staff admin).