Is Hhampuz responsible to pay $850 to Blender.io participants?

[Justice_]

It has been over a week since the campaign was over and until now no payment has been made.

According to Hhampuz in his last post in the campaign thread :

Hey Guys!

As of now I've been waiting for blender to get back to me (we only have forum pm's as communication) for a wallet top up but so far I've not gotten a reply.

As of now you can remove the Signature/Avatar and consider t he campaign paused again. I will try and get last weeks payments for your ASAP and let you know if we continue or not. I do apologize for the delay and I know it sucks.

I am asking the opinion of everyone who cares, who is oblige to pay when the promoter failed to pay?
I will lock this topic/thread if I've got satisfied answer.

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[hacker1001101001]

Why hide behind a puppet account even if you can post this as an geniune quarier about the delay in the payments by an campaign maganer. Just curious about what are you afraid of ?

Btw, yes 1 week of payments deals with no update from someone like humpuz is odd.

[TECSHARE]

Hey Hhampuz, you know what you could use right now? Some friends who aren't jellyfish. It is always some one else's problem until it is your turn at the stake. It is unfortunate you don't seem to see the relationship. Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Livecoin fiasco for you.

[Justice_]

Btw, yes 1 week of payments deals with no update from someone like humpuz is odd.

-from a concerned citizen

Is this all fault on Blender.io's side? not the CM?

[TMAN]

pretty clear the campaign has been paused/stopped and he was waiting for funds from the advertiser.

He doesn't owe you shit fella.

why don't you post from your own account? why on earth would you not PM him or post here from your own account? The snowfucker is officially top 10 on the nicest people I have ever known, probably #1 nicest person offering any service on the forum, so I dont get the hiding, its not like you are dealing with an arsehole like Techshare or myself here

[sujonali1819]

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I am asking the opinion of everyone who cares, who is oblige to pay when the promoter failed to pay?
I will lock this topic/thread if I've got satisfied answer.

The satisfied answer would only come if you posted from your original account. Now all will talk about why you hide you.

BTW I was also a participants and as I know forum message was the only way to reach the blender owner which is said by Hhumpuz. But on the site there are two email to Contact the team for supports and advertise discussion. I have sent that to Hhampuz yesterday. Maybe He have tried to contact by email.

[logfiles]

Whoever you are, you seem to be someone very impatient and doesn't understand that it isn't Hhampaz's fault that Blender.io refused to refill the wallet. Just only one week and you are already trying to cause a storm, as thou you have never posted in the forum without wearing a signature or earning from your signature space at one point.

Come on, style up and be a little patient. Hhampuz is a pretty a cool CM who am sure will try to solve the problem.

[Findingnemo]

He doesn't owe any funds to the campaign participants because it is not his fault since they didn't come online and no other communication that forum account.

But my humble suggestion for any campaign managers while self escrowing a campaign will be, put you campaign paused when you doesn't have enough funds to pay the participants for the next coming week so participants were aware of the situation and let the participants to wore signature on their own risk.

I often see this kind of announcement from yahoo when he doesn't get top-up for ongoing or next weeks.

[johhnyUA]

I think that everyone should ignore such shit from newbie accounts. OP, if you want answer, write from your own. If you don't want to put you into an any risk, then why are you asking about the same other people?

[hd49728]

The snowfucker is officially top 10 on the nicest people I have ever known, probably #1 nicest person offering any service on the forum

I agree.
I am one of the Blender's campaign and I don't have problem with what's going on. From the campaign's topic, there is no complaints about it, so far.

I do  neither say what OP said is a troll nor OP is a participant of that campaign but in case it turns out to be a troll, let's do this

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Hey Hhampuz, you know what you could use right now? Some friends who aren't jellyfish. It is always some one else's problem until it is your turn at the stake. It is unfortunate you don't seem to see the relationship. Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Livecoin fiasco for you.

Only just seen this.

It’s just some coward posting from a throw away account. Hhampuz has absolutely no liability here, it’s all on Blender.io

Blender.io have questions to answer.

[nutildah]

Nobody is obliged to pay jack shit. You got paid anything at all by the Grace of God, and should be thankful you got what you did. If the only reason you are here on the forum is for the payday, you should just leave now and save the rest of us from having to read your forced shitposts.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Nobody is obliged to pay jack shit. You got paid anything at all by the Grace of God, and should be thankful you got what you did. If the only reason you are here on the forum is for the payday, you should just leave now and save the rest of us from having to read your forced shitposts.

[LoyceV]

First, there's this:

blender.io reserves the right to make any changes or end the campaign at any time. Each started week will be paid for in full.

But the alternative would have been this:

But my humble suggestion for any campaign managers while self escrowing a campaign will be, put you campaign paused when you doesn't have enough funds to pay the participants for the next coming week so participants were aware of the situation and let the participants to wore signature on their own risk.

It I'd be running the campaign, I would have filled it with disclaimers. But it's kinda sad that's necessary to protect your own reputation. This forum offers great opportunities, but it's still the internet, where guarantees are pretty rare.
Isn't it pretty obvious Hhampuz does this just as a job? You wouldn't hold the people working at payroll responsible if your boss doesn't pay your salary, would you?

[PrimeNumber7]

Disclaimer: I am currently participating in a signature campaign run by Hhampuz and have been for some time.
I looked at the OP of the campaign thread and don’t see anywhere that says Hhampuz is guaranteeing payments, nor that he is escrowing the coin to pay participants. There is the quote LoyceV posted above, but that is ambiguous. For these reasons, I don’t believe Hhampuz is obligated to pay participants. I also believe it would be wrong for someone to demand payment from Hhampuz.

With that being said, Hhampuz is going to have difficulty attracting quality participants if this kind of thing happens on a regular basis. I think the right thing to do is warn participants that he doesn’t have the coin from the business owner and participants can decide for themselves to take the risk of not getting paid, if Hhampuz does not want to guarantee the weekly payment.

I have zero interest in managing signature campaigns, but if I were in his position, I would extend credit to the business for one week to pay participants out of my own pocket.  I would also structure what I get paid so that if businesses don’t pay me, I am still making money and would set the expectation that businesses should pay upfront.

[Pffrt]

Isn't it pretty obvious Hhampuz does this just as a job? You wouldn't hold the people working at payroll responsible if your boss doesn't pay your salary, would you?

I would really love to see no issue for Hhampuz in any campaign. He is a great manager.
What if instead of Hhampuz, the campaign manager was a new one? I doubt they could run a campaign without escrow the fund. Red tag is guaranteed as we have seen in two cases recently. The people now saying that "Hhampuz don't keep the responsibility." would fuck the reputation of the manager with red paint. I am damn sure that everyone here would put different opinion than the fact that manager was doing his job.
Nothing against Hhampuz. But that's the true.

[TMAN]

I doubt they could run a campaign without escrow the fund.

Loads of campaigns are not held in escrow, I would really advise you to educate yourself on a subject before commenting son

[nutildah]

Disclaimer: I am currently participating in a signature campaign run by Hhampuz and have been for some time.
I looked at the OP of the campaign thread and don’t see anywhere that says Hhampuz is guaranteeing payments, nor that he is escrowing the coin to pay participants. There is the quote LoyceV posted above, but that is ambiguous. For these reasons, I don’t believe Hhampuz is obligated to pay participants. I also believe it would be wrong for someone to demand payment from Hhampuz.

With that being said, Hhampuz is going to have difficulty attracting quality participants if this kind of thing happens on a regular basis. I think the right thing to do is warn participants that he doesn’t have the coin from the business owner and participants can decide for themselves to take the risk of not getting paid, if Hhampuz does not want to guarantee the weekly payment.

I have zero interest in managing signature campaigns, but if I were in his position, I would extend credit to the business for one week to pay participants out of my own pocket.  I would also structure what I get paid so that if businesses don’t pay me, I am still making money and would set the expectation that businesses should pay upfront.

Obviously he is uncertain the campaign will refill the wallet. If he was certain, he probably would have paid campaigners out of pocket.

Don't know why you're bothering to comment about what you would or wouldn't do seeing as how you have "zero interest" in doing it.

[Pffrt]

I doubt they could run a campaign without escrow the fund.

Loads of campaigns are not held in escrow, I would really advise you to educate yourself on a subject before commenting son

Anyone can run a campaign but red tag is guaranteed, that's what I pointed. May be you missed my point or I am not educated enough to point that. Sorry if faults from me. Negative tag has been given to a lot of manager if they don't come with escrow the payment. What's the difference between "Hhampuz managing a campaign didn't pay" and "new manager launched a campaign without escrow."? Then why tag on other manager before the week end even? Why red tag? Please, I would love to read the point, difference and educate myself.

[Findingnemo]

Anyone can run a campaign but red tag is guaranteed, that's what I pointed. May be you missed my point or I am not educated enough to point that. Sorry if faults from me. Negative tag has been given to a lot of manager if they don't come with escrow the payment. What's the difference between "Hhampuz managing a campaign didn't pay" and "new manager launched a campaign without escrow."? Then why tag on other manager before the week end even? Why red tag? Please, I would love to read the point, difference and educate myself.

I don't want to comment on anything about red tag.

But a newbie and one of the highly valued account of bitcointalk are not the same when it comes to open a signature campaign.Newbies should ensure his legitimacy by hiring an escrow but Hhampuz itself escrowed many occasions on bitcointalk so he doesn't need any escrows to open a campaign.