Trust System Abuse By TMAN

[bones261]

Let me break it down for you real simple like.

The trust system (supposedly) is to help noobs prevent being scammed. As a result noobs rely upon it heavily. Negative rating people thus frightens away newer users from trading with people because they don't have the ability to distinguish between drunk idiots abusing it, and legitimate complaints backed by evidence.

What noob would actually read Tman's negative comment for you and not take it with a grain of salt? Many noobs may be quite naive, however I doubt that few would not trade with you because of it. I could be wrong...

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[figmentofmyass]

What noob would actually read Tman's negative comment for you and not take it with a grain of salt? Many noobs may be quite naive, however I doubt that few would not trade with you because of it. I could be wrong...

so you're just giving him a free pass to red tag people based on utter horseshit? why is that the norm around here? because he kisses the right asses and (unjustifiably) red tags the right people?

just to be clear, TMAN is on DT1 and everyone around here is fine with him dishing out negative trust for "being a wanknozzle" and "having a micropenis", and of course for good measure "fuck you, your mum, your dad and smell your pillow as I just wiped my shitty dick after taking it out your dads arse".

this is the purpose of the default trust system? to make sure noobs see these incredibly important "warnings about scammers"?

which is it? is the default trust system to protect noobs from scammers or to perpetuate your unbelievably pathetic little flame wars?

lauda, will you red tag TMAN for "lying" and "dishonesty" since he didn't really fuck TECSHARE's father in the ass? i didn't think so. you only tag people for "lying" when it suits you.

this shit is such an embarrassment to the forum.

[TECSHARE]

Let me break it down for you real simple like.

The trust system (supposedly) is to help noobs prevent being scammed. As a result noobs rely upon it heavily. Negative rating people thus frightens away newer users from trading with people because they don't have the ability to distinguish between drunk idiots abusing it, and legitimate complaints backed by evidence.

What noob would actually read Tman's negative comment for you and not take it with a grain of salt? Many noobs may be quite naive, however I doubt that few would not trade with you because of it. I could be wrong...

You don't have much if any experience trading here do you? The amount of fraud here makes people quite paranoid and fearful of losing their money. Some people are quite easily spooked, and it doesn't take much to do it. The thought process behind purchasing something is very much an impulsive process. That 2 seconds they take to question that rating is enough to simply end the impulse for a customer, and thus has a direct impact on my ability to trade here. I have seen it before in the past with Vod's abusive negative ratings. They don't know enough to know it should be disregarded, which is exactly my point.

[bones261]

You don't have much if any experience trading here do you? The amount of fraud here makes people quite paranoid and fearful of losing their money. Some people are quite easily spooked, and it doesn't take much to do it. The thought process behind purchasing something is very much an impulsive process. That 2 seconds they take to question that rating is enough to simply end the impulse for a customer, and thus has a direct impact on my ability to trade here. I have seen it before in the past with Vod's abusive negative ratings. They don't know enough to know it should be disregarded, which is exactly my point.

I concede that Vod's and Lauda's negative comments may give a noob some pause. However, the only pause that I can see a noob having after reading Tman's comment is the time it takes to compose themselves after RFLAO.

[TECSHARE]

You don't have much if any experience trading here do you? The amount of fraud here makes people quite paranoid and fearful of losing their money. Some people are quite easily spooked, and it doesn't take much to do it. The thought process behind purchasing something is very much an impulsive process. That 2 seconds they take to question that rating is enough to simply end the impulse for a customer, and thus has a direct impact on my ability to trade here. I have seen it before in the past with Vod's abusive negative ratings. They don't know enough to know it should be disregarded, which is exactly my point.

I concede that Vod's and Lauda's negative comments may give a noob some pause. However, the only pause that I can see a noob having after reading Tman's comment is the time it takes to compose themselves after RFLAO.

Great. Remind me again please what excuses this behavior while others are punished harshly for such activity?

[bones261]

You don't have much if any experience trading here do you? The amount of fraud here makes people quite paranoid and fearful of losing their money. Some people are quite easily spooked, and it doesn't take much to do it. The thought process behind purchasing something is very much an impulsive process. That 2 seconds they take to question that rating is enough to simply end the impulse for a customer, and thus has a direct impact on my ability to trade here. I have seen it before in the past with Vod's abusive negative ratings. They don't know enough to know it should be disregarded, which is exactly my point.

I concede that Vod's and Lauda's negative comments may give a noob some pause. However, the only pause that I can see a noob having after reading Tman's comment is the time it takes to compose themselves after RFLAO.

Great. Remind me again please what excuses this behavior while others are punished harshly for such activity?

The same reason Mr Flint got away with printing absolute filth against Reverend Falwell. 

[TECSHARE]

The same reason Mr Flint got away with printing absolute filth against Reverend Falwell. 

Cute. We aren't just talking about speech. We are talking about what is effectively a penalty under a system of criminal justice here on the forum. If you are such a advocate of free speech, then you would be arguing for me, and against TMAN's abuse, for the simple act of me exercising my right to free speech. Of course why use logic, when you can simply throw that out the window and project your preferred bias onto everyone else and make excuses to serve those biases?

[bones261]

Cute. We aren't just talking about speech. We are talking about what is effectively a penalty under a system of criminal justice here on the forum. If you are such a advocate of free speech, then you would be arguing for me, and against TMAN's abuse, for the simple act of me exercising my right to free speech. Of course why use logic, when you can simply throw that out the window and project your preferred bias onto everyone else and make excuses to serve those biases?

Exactly what actions are you recommending against TMAN? You've already done what you can do by excluding him from your trust list long ago and the fact that he is not currently on my include list is all that I can effectively do about it, since I am not on DT1. Quite frankly, Tman's comment against you is a reflection on his own character more than your's, anyway.

[TECSHARE]

Cute. We aren't just talking about speech. We are talking about what is effectively a penalty under a system of criminal justice here on the forum. If you are such a advocate of free speech, then you would be arguing for me, and against TMAN's abuse, for the simple act of me exercising my right to free speech. Of course why use logic, when you can simply throw that out the window and project your preferred bias onto everyone else and make excuses to serve those biases?

Exactly what actions are you recommending against TMAN? You've already done what you can do by excluding him from your trust list long ago and the fact that he is not currently on my include list is all that I can effectively do about it, since I am not on DT1. Quite frankly, Tman's comment against you is a reflection on his own character more than your's, anyway.

You could stop making excuses for him, and join me in advocating for his removal from the default trust.

[bones261]

You could stop making excuses for him, and join me in advocating for his removal from the default trust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2r59-Xmge4

[TECSHARE]

You could stop making excuses for him, and join me in advocating for his removal from the default trust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2r59-Xmge4

It is easy to tell everyone else not to rock the boat while you sit on shore sipping on a piña colada. None of this has any effect on your ability to use the forum. This does have an effect on my ability to use the forum.

It is always the same refrain from disinterested 3rd parties. Stop complaining at no cost to myself, because I don't like conflict. Lets not dwell on the cause of the conflict, the damages, or the solutions. What is most important is I don't have to think too hard about it and read critical words.

[bones261]

This does have an effect on my ability to use the forum.

I just read Tman's negative trust comment to my partner who knows fuckall about BTC, much less the politics of this forum. The first thing he asked after I read the 1st few words was, "Was he drunk?" My partner qualifies as a totally clueless noob and wouldn't give any credence to this. However, if you want to believe that this nonsense is going to severely impact your bottom line, when your 40+ positive trust comments seem to more than counteract for this nuisance, then I guess your perception is your reality.
You're like a woman who bitches about receiving a diamond ring with a 1 carat stone that is E color and VVS clarity. I guess it could be bigger, whiter and more clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5sLQHWPa0

[allahabadi]

Just a word

I was a trading noob once and wud heavily trust any red digit.
Can't speak for others.

I might hv laughed at a few Red Trusts; but wudn't hv traded with the person who got it.

EDIT: Infact, if I wud hv seen the non-red neutral trust of any DT1 decrying an individual; like the one Lauda put on my; I wudn't hv traded even then.

[nutildah]

You could stop making excuses for him, and join me in advocating for his removal from the default trust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2r59-Xmge4

It is easy to tell everyone else not to rock the boat while you sit on shore sipping on a piña colada. None of this has any effect on your ability to use the forum. This does have an effect on my ability to use the forum.

To extend the metaphor, I think you quite enjoy rocking the boat for no reason other than the thrill of sitting in a wobbly boat. But then when the boat tips over and you get drenched, you open a thread about how it wasn't your fault, and everybody needs to change except you.

You will never get Vod, TMAN or Lauda removed from DT because everyone can see your own behavior isn't conducive to your end goals -- so why should others pitch in and lend a hand? I have a feeling pretty soon this section will be nothing other than your threads complaining about how everything is unfair.

[TECSHARE]

To extend the metaphor, I think you quite enjoy rocking the boat for no reason other than the thrill of sitting in a wobbly boat. But then when the boat tips over and you get drenched, you open a thread about how it wasn't your fault, and everybody needs to change except you.

You will never get Vod, TMAN or Lauda removed from DT because everyone can see your own behavior isn't conducive to your end goals -- so why should others pitch in and lend a hand? I have a feeling pretty soon this section will be nothing other than your threads complaining about how everything is unfair.

I don't need to get TMAN removed from the default trust, he removed his abusive negative rating. Is Lauda unblacklisted from the default trust now with Theymos's recent removal of their exclusion? I remember having a part in that blacklisting. I am sure the ratings left for me by Lauda in no way were retaliation for raising awareness of their abusive behavior were they? Vod will get himself removed from the default trust list because he has no control over himself.

This does have an effect on my ability to use the forum.

I just read Tman's negative trust comment to my partner who knows fuckall about BTC, much less the politics of this forum. The first thing he asked after I read the 1st few words was, "Was he drunk?" My partner qualifies as a totally clueless noob and wouldn't give any credence to this. However, if you want to believe that this nonsense is going to severely impact your bottom line, when your 40+ positive trust comments seem to more than counteract for this nuisance, then I guess your perception is your reality.
You're like a woman who bitches about receiving a diamond ring with a 1 carat stone that is E color and VVS clarity. I guess it could be bigger, whiter and more clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5sLQHWPa0

I believe it because I have personally experienced it. Users have literally told me so in the past. You have fun telling me what my life experience is though while you have none of the same.