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February 17, 2020, 06:32:40 AM |
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Stupid and lazy people will always lose their money in the end.That's how capitalism works. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) The situation you are describing was back in 2017.Back then,people were way too ignorant and naive about the cryptocurrency world and all the ICO,HYIP,ponzi,MLM scams were flourishing. I hope that,at least a part of the people,who were scammed back then didn't give up and tried to learn and gain experience about using bitcoin/altcoins, crypto trading,etc.
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February 17, 2020, 06:47:15 AM |
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Scam comes in different shapes and forms but there are some simple ways to prevent them. Firstly secure your funds, use good passwords and 2FA wherever possible. Don't copy paste or screenshot your keys or phrase and keep them on same device or on the cloud. Don't make quick decision, look over for every of your investment more than twice. Something that looks promising might not look the same tomorrow.
I think you're mixing things up, hacking is quite different from scamming, scamming is a process of been convinced to do something or pay someone which eventually turns out to be false as oppose to hacking which requires one to secure their online private property or investment which in this case requires the individual to input details like 2FA and the rest in other to stay safe safe, scamming is more of a greed thing, that's why many fall for it
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February 17, 2020, 06:51:41 AM |
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A lot of scams awareness online and yet, some people just ignore this. May the problem is not the scammers but maybe because we are allowing them to do so and collect our hard work money easily. Some of us feed them that is why they can't be stopped even the others do. Stupid and lazy people will always lose their money in the end.That's how capitalism works. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) The situation you are describing was back in 2017.Back then,people were way too ignorant and naive about the cryptocurrency world and all the ICO,HYIP,ponzi,MLM scams were flourishing. I hope that,at least a part of the people,who were scammed back then didn't give up and tried to learn and gain experience about using bitcoin/altcoins, crypto trading,etc. And hopefully, they could learn many things from that. It eventually fueling scammers to scammed people if we still think of easy money and quick returns which are usually be heard from scammers. Though we can't eliminate them (scammers) totally but at least we will do something that could take them down and be starving.
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February 17, 2020, 06:58:22 AM |
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You are absolutely right, some people really too greedy, so they won't stop falling on scam ever. They want to earn huge money within a short time so they keep looking hype site, invest there and keep sharing their scam referral link to earn more. I feel they are very dishonest people who share scam links to earn more rewards! Whoever offers you a quick profit in a short period, they will end up by scamming you, this is simple and most of the people knows it, but still, those greedy people keep investing in those scammy sites to test their luck and when they fall, they start blaming others! You did your job well, now if they still want to fall in that scam, let them! Don't tell them bitcoin is a very good investment, try to teach the tech first, otherwise very soon they will blame the bitcoin too.
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February 17, 2020, 07:40:06 AM |
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Scam comes in different shapes and forms but there are some simple ways to prevent them. Firstly secure your funds, use good passwords and 2FA wherever possible. Don't copy paste or screenshot your keys or phrase and keep them on same device or on the cloud. Don't make quick decision, look over for every of your investment more than twice. Something that looks promising might not look the same tomorrow.
and increasing interest in bitcoin, more and more bitcoin scams are deceiving people by promising huge profits, bitcoin is a digital currency that cannot be controlled by any authority and its anonymity is an opportunity for scamer because it is not detected. Meanwhile, to use a hardware wallet, two-factor authentication can indeed guarantee to reduce risk, but that doesn't mean anything if we don't realize bitcoin fraud.
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February 17, 2020, 10:36:29 AM |
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That's normal because until now there are still people who viewed bitcoin like a HYIP.
Scammers are pretty smart on convincing people, maybe they'll start by saying, bitcoin when started was $1 and look at the price now, so that alone would already attract people with no enough knowledge about bitcoin but as usual later they'll regret and understand, and worst if they still failed to understand despite making a mistake by falling to the scams.
I will take time before they will learn, let's just accept that that's the trend since its impossible that all of us will earn, but eventually the market will mature due to people are getting more educated.
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February 17, 2020, 06:14:54 PM |
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That's normal because until now there are still people who viewed bitcoin like a HYIP.
Scammers are pretty smart on convincing people, maybe they'll start by saying, bitcoin when started was $1 and look at the price now, so that alone would already attract people with no enough knowledge about bitcoin but as usual later they'll regret and understand, and worst if they still failed to understand despite making a mistake by falling to the scams.
They are basically knowledgeable because as the time passes by, people are learning allot so they need to surpass the knowledge that the majority has to attract and scam people. It seems like they are more superior and trustworthy if it seems that they know allot about cryptocurrency. So, as a solution to this, we need to further expand our knowledge to somehow have the capability to detect them and to probably avoid them at any case. I will take time before they will learn, let's just accept that that's the trend since its impossible that all of us will earn, but eventually the market will mature due to people are getting more educated.
For them to learn their lesson, we need to turn scam occurrence to nearly 0 percentage where they could not earn even a single penny by scamming people and this could be achieved by utilizing tools we have now, mainly built for security. And lastly, considering to be personally responsible for the decisions that we make especially when talking to people we didn't know.
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The victim had try to bitcoin because he heard he will double his investment in a week, I told them that is not how it work.
if people will continue to have this Greedy attitude?for sure Scammers will be here forever for themAfter getting and reading repeated complain of how persons are been scammed in my country while trying to buy bitcoin, I decided to make 4 banners on how to learn how to safely buy/sell bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, and to address the wrong notion about cryptocurrency.
great initiative mate and if we will all have this same concern?then for sure we will be having more safer way to help people not to become a victim of scammers and will made them trust Bitcoin 100%. I am just weak and heart broken how people are lazy to attend class that will open their mind and eyes to existing realities and set them free from lifetime mistakes. I am dazed by their foolishness in the issue of finance. My banners and office is still open but won't force anyone to learn. I hope they don't learn the hard way.
sometimes learning the hardway is necessary specially for those people that has a hard mind also,so if that is their destiny then nothing we can do about it,but continue your legacy mate as you are admiring us.
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Scam has been around for so long as long as there are greedy people who would do risk anything in order to gain what they want then for sure scam wouldn't end. If there isn't someone who would fall to their trick then scammer would surely get tired and stop or look for other things to earn money. Scammer doesn't stop from scamming people because there are still some who believes on their tricks or lies.
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Absolutely yes, this issue is completely widespread in this domain, and unfortunately most of people don't want to learn from their failed experiences, and they are making the same mistake everytime. Furthermore, I see that these scam projects are trying to attract Bitcoin's community through some fake products and most of newbies are easy fooled to be honest due to they are pretty greedy and it is really one of their weaknesses.
Those who are falling into a scam are either a newbie investor and a lazy investor. If you are a newbie, it is ok if you will fall into this kind of scam because you are just new to this kind of investment but as a newbie you must know too that you shouldn't invest into something you don't know. As a newbie, it would be better if you do some research first before investing. On the other hand, a lazy investor is someone who got scammed already but didn't learn from his mistakes and remains a lazy one. Don't want to do some research and choose to just invest into something he doesn't even understand. This is a wrong mindset. As an investor, if you really want to get profit you must learn from your mistakes and at the same time get information that will help you.
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February 18, 2020, 06:51:16 AM |
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I think people like that are only thinking about making a big profit and not thinking about the worst possibility if they put their money into a scam project. And the most important thing is that we have informed and educated them as much as possible. That has also happened to many of my friends, and finally they realize that a program like that is only deceptive for ordinary people.
Yes, they never learn from other people mistake, and they never learn how to prevent the scam. They only follow what other people suggest without searching for other news. If they can do that, they will be able to avoid the scam, and even they will have more information, and they can be able to improve their knowledge in cryptocurrency. That will be useful for them to determine the scam that will come to them so they can know if the news or project is good or not to join. If new people actively searched for more information, they can protect themselves from scams, and they can also know what they need to do. It requires time before we know if the project will be a scam or not and only with researching from many sources that can help us to know to avoid the scam.
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If you’re trying to help someone on not getting scammed and they refuse to listen to you, there is no need to stress yourself by begging them. You have done your best part by telling them everything they need to know about it and if they refuse to listen and decide to still go for the wrong thing they are doing then it is up to them and they can go ahead to lose their money, I believe experience will be the best teacher for such foolish people that never wants to listen to the advice that they are being given.
I have come across such people and I tell them they are about to do the wrong thing and they still insist that they will do it because they feel it is too good and will be true. So leave them. Because we are having lots of responsibilities in our life and just following them is not our high priority work. Even I'm not full heartedly leaving them, I am not having any other option by considering my other responsibilities.
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Yes because scammers have a way on improving their scheme's. They are being very clever to pull out some schemes to lure out some investors. We have seen it here in crypto industrythey started at HYIP, Pyramid Scheme's then when ICO's bloom they also open up their own scam projects, They would do anything go with the trend and do what they could to make it look's realistic.
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Yes because scammers have a way on improving their scheme's. They are being very clever to pull out some schemes to lure out some investors. We have seen it here in crypto industrythey started at HYIP, Pyramid Scheme's then when ICO's bloom they also open up their own scam projects, They would do anything go with the trend and do what they could to make it look's realistic.
Yep, we are all aware of the scamming tactics but scammers do their plan B in order to succeed with their plans. Ain't wondering why still there are people been caught into this scamming scheme is because they are also not changing their minds. Lack of knowledge still evident in the market and most newcomers are the victims of this. It was a sad note that they just suffer big losses at their first step but we can't decline this scenario especially when we don't listen to other's advice and not even doing simple research. That is actually their fault and scammers will hunt those people that could easily be trick.
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Hello guys, back in 2017, during the heavy bull run, I visited my former office and meant some friends and told them the need to key into bitcoin. One who is now occupying my former position at the bank interjected and said "someone just left here to to lay complain how he paid a huge some of money to a bitcoin seller who then scammed him", bitcoin was never paid by the scammer. I asked them to send the person to me for a free tutorial on bitcoin and how to safely buy and store it, I never hear from them again till date. The victim had try to bitcoin because he heard he will double his investment in a week, I told them that is not how it work.
After getting and reading repeated complain of how persons are been scammed in my country while trying to buy bitcoin, I decided to make 4 banners on how to learn how to safely buy/sell bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, and to address the wrong notion about cryptocurrency. I got some calls and follow ups. But most are not interested in buying and holding but want to give me money and be giving them a weekly or monthly returns on investment, when I tell them that is not how it actually works, they will reply they have found a program online that pays some weekly % ROI, I try to stop them from putting their money there, they either stop picking my calls or tell them they are okay with their findings.
I am just weak and heart broken how people are lazy to attend class that will open their mind and eyes to existing realities and set them free from lifetime mistakes. I am dazed by their foolishness in the issue of finance. My banners and office is still open but won't force anyone to learn. I hope they don't learn the hard way.
That's one of the biggest problem with the investors, they are too lazy to inform their selves on how they can evade scams. If only they are going to make sure that every transaction they make are safe through carefully observing the person involved in it or whenever they are joining campaigns, they read the whitepaper thoroughly and check the background of the team involved, then we wouldn't have anyone getting scammed. At the same time, the number of scammers would decrease as they fail to steal other people's money.
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February 18, 2020, 06:15:23 PM |
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Hello guys, back in 2017, during the heavy bull run, I visited my former office and meant some friends and told them the need to key into bitcoin. One who is now occupying my former position at the bank interjected and said "someone just left here to to lay complain how he paid a huge some of money to a bitcoin seller who then scammed him", bitcoin was never paid by the scammer. I asked them to send the person to me for a free tutorial on bitcoin and how to safely buy and store it, I never hear from them again till date. The victim had try to bitcoin because he heard he will double his investment in a week, I told them that is not how it work.
After getting and reading repeated complain of how persons are been scammed in my country while trying to buy bitcoin, I decided to make 4 banners on how to learn how to safely buy/sell bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, and to address the wrong notion about cryptocurrency. I got some calls and follow ups. But most are not interested in buying and holding but want to give me money and be giving them a weekly or monthly returns on investment, when I tell them that is not how it actually works, they will reply they have found a program online that pays some weekly % ROI, I try to stop them from putting their money there, they either stop picking my calls or tell them they are okay with their findings.
I am just weak and heart broken how people are lazy to attend class that will open their mind and eyes to existing realities and set them free from lifetime mistakes. I am dazed by their foolishness in the issue of finance. My banners and office is still open but won't force anyone to learn. I hope they don't learn the hard way.
We do hope that they shouldnt really go to that path but just let them be because learning will comes next when they do experience loss of money. I do appreciate on the effort youve been doing but its no surprise that people are just too greedy to neglect to those people who do have more experience than them. Pretty sure that they would call you back and tell you that theyve been scammed and asking for some tips of advice on how to recover their money. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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February 18, 2020, 06:27:28 PM |
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Hello guys, back in 2017, during the heavy bull run, I visited my former office and meant some friends and told them the need to key into bitcoin. One who is now occupying my former position at the bank interjected and said "someone just left here to to lay complain how he paid a huge some of money to a bitcoin seller who then scammed him", bitcoin was never paid by the scammer. I asked them to send the person to me for a free tutorial on bitcoin and how to safely buy and store it, I never hear from them again till date. The victim had try to bitcoin because he heard he will double his investment in a week, I told them that is not how it work.
After getting and reading repeated complain of how persons are been scammed in my country while trying to buy bitcoin, I decided to make 4 banners on how to learn how to safely buy/sell bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, and to address the wrong notion about cryptocurrency. I got some calls and follow ups. But most are not interested in buying and holding but want to give me money and be giving them a weekly or monthly returns on investment, when I tell them that is not how it actually works, they will reply they have found a program online that pays some weekly % ROI, I try to stop them from putting their money there, they either stop picking my calls or tell them they are okay with their findings.
I am just weak and heart broken how people are lazy to attend class that will open their mind and eyes to existing realities and set them free from lifetime mistakes. I am dazed by their foolishness in the issue of finance. My banners and office is still open but won't force anyone to learn. I hope they don't learn the hard way.
This is not really surprising, you must understand that most people do not really want to learn how to manage their money, they know that will be a lot of work so they are always trying to find someone they can delegate their money and just obtain some monthly profits but the markets do not move like that, just look at bitcoin and the year of 2018 which was so negative, anyone that earned any amount of money during that time frame is a really good trader since the markets conditions were awful at that time and expecting any kind of monthly return was ridiculous under those conditions, but people simply do not get it and they will keep being scammed since scammers can make any promises they like since they have no intention to fulfil them.
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February 18, 2020, 07:14:56 PM |
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This is because we can create the most secure systems, but the main vulnerability will always be the user. And social engineering is the most used tool by hackers nowadays. The techniques are growing faster than security. That's why we have to be really careful with any business we do online.
So, if people will never stop falling for scams, we will see more scams in the future.
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February 18, 2020, 08:03:48 PM |
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The worst reality is that people have accepted Bitcoin as their next best get-rich-quick scheme where they will invest their money and double it a day after. I don't understand why they don't get a simple fix done to their mind that there can't be any thing so easily gained, and we need to work hard to achieve what we expect from our life. They choose not to look into how things work, they choose not to understand that in this world nowadays, almost every thing is full of scams and nobody can be trusted so easily and when they get scammed, they complain. They should not do it if they don't have the time to learn about what they are going to buy exactly because without complete knowledge, even I will not let my grandson buy an Apple stock.
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February 18, 2020, 08:13:16 PM |
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Hello guys, back in 2017, during the heavy bull run, I visited my former office and meant some friends and told them the need to key into bitcoin. One who is now occupying my former position at the bank interjected and said "someone just left here to to lay complain how he paid a huge some of money to a bitcoin seller who then scammed him", bitcoin was never paid by the scammer. I asked them to send the person to me for a free tutorial on bitcoin and how to safely buy and store it, I never hear from them again till date. The victim had try to bitcoin because he heard he will double his investment in a week, I told them that is not how it work.
After getting and reading repeated complain of how persons are been scammed in my country while trying to buy bitcoin, I decided to make 4 banners on how to learn how to safely buy/sell bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, and to address the wrong notion about cryptocurrency. I got some calls and follow ups. But most are not interested in buying and holding but want to give me money and be giving them a weekly or monthly returns on investment, when I tell them that is not how it actually works, they will reply they have found a program online that pays some weekly % ROI, I try to stop them from putting their money there, they either stop picking my calls or tell them they are okay with their findings.
I am just weak and heart broken how people are lazy to attend class that will open their mind and eyes to existing realities and set them free from lifetime mistakes. I am dazed by their foolishness in the issue of finance. My banners and office is still open but won't force anyone to learn. I hope they don't learn the hard way.
Yup, I found the same thing with some Venezuelan dude here in France, he told me he's always been interested in "investing" and asked me how much money I could give him back daily/weekly. I tried explaining that's not how any of it works but he didn't give a fuck. Not to say nationality was a issue, people are just lazy in general.
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