Craig Wright Potential Lawsuit to Bitcoin

[Kensyin]

People who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto are not just Craig Wright, but this figure is one of the best known. Advertisement The name Craig Wright is widely known after identifying himself as the main part of the team that created Bitcoin, and claims that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. People who claim to be Nakamoto are not only Wright, but this figure is the most vocal in voicing his claims, and the hobby creates controversy from time to time. After graduating from high school in 1987, Wright completed 18 SANS Institute programs and was the first person in the world to receive a GIAC certification, which is a certification in cyber security. Craig Wright's Relationship with Bitcoin In December 2015, two parallel investigations carried out by Wired and Gizmodo revealed the possibility of Craig Wright as the inventor of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto. Jon Matonis who is the founder of the Bitcoin Foundation states that, "For cryptographic evidence, Craig signs and verifies the message using the private key from the block # 1 and block # 9 the newly generated coin (the first transaction for Hal Finney).

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[Wysi]

Well, there are a couple of reasons he is doing this as either he is digging his own grave or else he needs more attention or it's an attempt to see if the real Satoshi Nakamoto comes out in public. Not sure how someone can be so foolish and I am sure he will fall in his own trap and this drama will not be entertained by the court.

[carlfebz2]

Well, there are a couple of reasons he is doing this as either he is digging his own grave or else he needs more attention or it's an attempt to see if the real Satoshi Nakamoto comes out in public. Not sure how someone can be so foolish and I am sure he will fall in his own trap and this drama will not be entertained by the court.

Making yourself look dumb into the public just to make the real satoshi comes out? I dont see for this reasoning to be that valid.
Actually im already done to this troll into all thins that hes trying to make from claiming to be satoshi with corresponding
failed attempts and even up to these times he do still try hard to mess up the bitcoin community with those BS claims which
cant really be totally proved out.

[CaVO32]

Well, there are a couple of reasons he is doing this as either he is digging his own grave or else he needs more attention or it's an attempt to see if the real Satoshi Nakamoto comes out in public. Not sure how someone can be so foolish and I am sure he will fall in his own trap and this drama will not be entertained by the court.

Making yourself look dumb into the public just to make the real satoshi comes out? I dont see for this reasoning to be that valid.
Actually im already done to this troll into all thins that hes trying to make from claiming to be satoshi with corresponding
failed attempts and even up to these times he do still try hard to mess up the bitcoin community with those BS claims which
cant really be totally proved out.

I hope he will stop doing these stunts and just live a peaceful life. what does he really want? fame? money? i guess he has already all the money that he needs until retirement. fame? but he is getting popular because of negative publicity. does he really like to be known as one of the hated persons in crypto? and by the way, just to have an idea of how much he is worth but we don't know the truth about such claims.

https://wethecryptos.net/craig-s-wright-net-worth-is-alleged-faketoshi-as-rich-as-he-claims/

[hv_]

Imagine Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin, minted a million Bitcoins, disappeared to 'move on to other projects', lost all of his private keys, lost his GPG key, lost access to any known email address and now comes back to sue 'Bitcoin' and all of its forks. If this was real, Satoshi is a lonely mother fraggin idiot! Hmmmmm, I guess it's not real and Craig Wright is a lonely mother fraggin idiot.  

Wrong

He just manages to keep the muggles out of doing shit this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ys4gxyw82w&feature=youtu.be

Satoshi is much more intelligent than we ever might ve noticed

 

[gmaxwell]

I hope he will stop doing these stunts and just live a peaceful life. what does he really want? fame? money? i guess he has already all the money that he needs until retirement. fame? but he is getting popular because of negative publicity. does he really like to be known as one of the hated persons in crypto? and by the way, just to have an idea of how much he is worth but we don't know the truth about such claims.

https://wethecryptos.net/craig-s-wright-net-worth-is-alleged-faketoshi-as-rich-as-he-claims/

Your confusion comes from the belief that he isn't broke.  He likely is, except for the funding he's slowly extracting from his victims-- which is why you see him making so may posts faking wealth (e.g. claims to have a lambo, but people googled the tags and found it was a one day rental, same with the boat and the plane, and his 'supercomputer' didn't even exist at all).  The page you're linking to makes its analysis assuming that he's Satoshi lol (eyeroll).

When he stops scamming the money will dry up and if that's all that happens its a best case scenario. More likely, all the people that he's ripped off with promises of access to Satoshi's coins will come after him and he'll end up in jail.  He might even be murdered --- I get the impression that some of the people he's scammed are the sort that you don't scam and live to tell the tale.  Plenty of reason to keep the lies coming even without speculating about the possibility of serious mental illness.

[AGD]

Imagine Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin, minted a million Bitcoins, disappeared to 'move on to other projects', lost all of his private keys, lost his GPG key, lost access to any known email address and now comes back to sue 'Bitcoin' and all of its forks. If this was real, Satoshi is a lonely mother fraggin idiot! Hmmmmm, I guess it's not real and Craig Wright is a lonely mother fraggin idiot.  

Wrong

He just manages to keep the muggles out of doing shit this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ys4gxyw82w&feature=youtu.be

Satoshi is much more intelligent than we ever might ve noticed

 

You are talking about the part at 2:06:00 ff, right?
This meta level theory makes absolutely no sense. Craig Wright is not the creator of the Bitcoin white paper and the Tulip Trust is a fake. He has no access to Satoshis coins and his GPG key and he is a scammer.

[hv_]

Imagine Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin, minted a million Bitcoins, disappeared to 'move on to other projects', lost all of his private keys, lost his GPG key, lost access to any known email address and now comes back to sue 'Bitcoin' and all of its forks. If this was real, Satoshi is a lonely mother fraggin idiot! Hmmmmm, I guess it's not real and Craig Wright is a lonely mother fraggin idiot.  

Wrong

He just manages to keep the muggles out of doing shit this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ys4gxyw82w&feature=youtu.be

Satoshi is much more intelligent than we ever might ve noticed

 

You are talking about the part at 2:06:00 ff, right?
This meta level theory makes absolutely no sense. Craig Wright is not the creator of the Bitcoin white paper and the Tulip Trust is a fake. He has no access to Satoshis coins and his GPG key and he is a scammer.

hm - good you know all that. So you must be Satoshi then - at least hidden here.

Right now, I ve not seen anyone claiming better in the real world, so go for

[TheNewAnon135246]

Imagine Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin, minted a million Bitcoins, disappeared to 'move on to other projects', lost all of his private keys, lost his GPG key, lost access to any known email address and now comes back to sue 'Bitcoin' and all of its forks. If this was real, Satoshi is a lonely mother fraggin idiot! Hmmmmm, I guess it's not real and Craig Wright is a lonely mother fraggin idiot.  

Wrong

He just manages to keep the muggles out of doing shit this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ys4gxyw82w&feature=youtu.be

Satoshi is much more intelligent than we ever might ve noticed

 

You are talking about the part at 2:06:00 ff, right?
This meta level theory makes absolutely no sense. Craig Wright is not the creator of the Bitcoin white paper and the Tulip Trust is a fake. He has no access to Satoshis coins and his GPG key and he is a scammer.

hm - good you know all that. So you must be Satoshi then - at least hidden here.

Right now, I ve not seen anyone claiming better in the real world, so go for

I don't see ADG claiming to be Satoshi, just because he is pointing out that Craig Wright is an outright fraud.

[hv_]

Imagine Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin, minted a million Bitcoins, disappeared to 'move on to other projects', lost all of his private keys, lost his GPG key, lost access to any known email address and now comes back to sue 'Bitcoin' and all of its forks. If this was real, Satoshi is a lonely mother fraggin idiot! Hmmmmm, I guess it's not real and Craig Wright is a lonely mother fraggin idiot.  

Wrong

He just manages to keep the muggles out of doing shit this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ys4gxyw82w&feature=youtu.be

Satoshi is much more intelligent than we ever might ve noticed

 

You are talking about the part at 2:06:00 ff, right?
This meta level theory makes absolutely no sense. Craig Wright is not the creator of the Bitcoin white paper and the Tulip Trust is a fake. He has no access to Satoshis coins and his GPG key and he is a scammer.

hm - good you know all that. So you must be Satoshi then - at least hidden here.

Right now, I ve not seen anyone claiming better in the real world, so go for

I don't see ADG claiming to be Satoshi, just because he is pointing out that Craig Wright is an outright fraud.

I see he's fighting agains ano & anarcho, against crime and ML

Sure - some wanna call that 'fraud'

Just go real - public - and see  the light ?

[DooMAD]

*typical nonsense*

Faketoshi is a fraud.  Ayre is knowingly complicit in the fraud.  They are the architects and the ones who stand to profit from said fraud.  You and anyone else foolish enough to read and subsequently repeat the words of Faketoshi and Ayre are unwitting accomplices in their fraud.  They rely on you to perpetuate the lies for them.  They are using you.  You will suffer financially for buying into their scam.  Your reputation will suffer for being associated with their scam.  There is literally no benefit for you in promoting their fraud.  Only consequences.

Seriously reconsider what it is you are choosing to advocate.

[hv_]

*typical nonsense*

Faketoshi is a fraud.  Ayre is knowingly complicit in the fraud.  They are the architects and the ones who stand to profit from said fraud.  You and anyone else foolish enough to read and subsequently repeat the words of Faketoshi and Ayre are unwitting accomplices in their fraud.  They rely on you to perpetuate the lies for them.  They are using you.  You will suffer financially for buying into their scam.  Your reputation will suffer for being associated with their scam.  There is literally no benefit for you in promoting their fraud.  Only consequences.

Seriously reconsider what it is you are choosing to advocate.

For sure: Not punky segwit-coin or anarcho bch

Have fun with nichy non-compliant hobby experiments

[RealMalatesta]

After going through this thread I’m still wondering the possibilities of Craig Wright filing a lawsuit against Bitcoin.
Before he talks about filing a lawsuit against Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash, he should first of all talk about proving his claims of being Satoshi Nakamoto.

People don’t believe that he’s Satoshi because he couldn’t prove, how then does he take such action against BTC and BCH when he is not the real Satoshi Nakamoto? The only person that has the right to take such actions is the real founder of Bitcoin and not just some random guy that’s seeking clout.

[DooMAD]

After going through this thread I’m still wondering the possibilities of Craig Wright filing a lawsuit against Bitcoin.

As far as I'm aware, the possibility is *zero* because there is no individual or company to file a lawsuit against.  Ask a legal professional if you can file a lawsuit against TCP/IP or HTTP.  I'm pretty sure they'll tell you that's not possible (unless they're just looking to bill you for the time it takes them to find out for certain that it's not possible). 

Protocols are just bits of code that people agree on and use to build networks together.  I don't see how you would initiate legal proceedings against them.

The only person that has the right to take such actions is the real founder of Bitcoin

Nope.  Irrelevant.  Even if the real slim shady satoshi nakamoto stood up and said they were taking Bitcoin to court, the answer would be the same as above.

Stop paying attention to the pantomime sideshow of who satoshi may or may not be.  It's just a distraction from the facts, which is that Bitcoin is an open-source protocol and you can't sue it because it's just code that people on the internet are running.  It can't be shut down without killing the internet.  No one can issue a court order and say the network now belongs to whoever was trying to litigate against it, because that's simply unenforceable.   

[gmaxwell]

As far as I'm aware, the possibility is *zero* because there is no individual or company to file a lawsuit against.    

Ehh.

Okay, so first off-- you're absolutely right on one point: Even the real Satoshi wouldn't have a legal leg to stand on. But not because there is no one to sue... but because there is nothing valid to sue over.

But not having a legal leg to stand on doesn't matter that much if you have a supply of money to keep litigating.  You can sue anyone at any time for essentially any reason. Your lawsuit, if frivolous, will eventually fail but not after costing the victim a lot of time and money.

Wright has already filed a pile of frivolous lawsuits, -- he keeps losing them but they still cost their targets money.

Wright could sue anyone, he could sue you.   If he was effective he'd manage to use the publicity of doing so to bring more victims into his fold and make more money out of it than the cost of the lawsuit,  but presumably even if he's not effective he could keep it up for a while on the largess of his existing victims.

Now, none of this would stop Bitcoin itself.  ... But on the other hand, if he kept suing anyone that does anything important for Bitcoin and as a result scared off people it could still have a negative effect.   Unfortunately, the legal systems in the developed world seem ill prepared to handle a lot of the fraud in the cryptocurrency ecosystem and Wright is a great example of that.

Wright's frivolous litigation probably won't stop anyone that has a healthy business-- if you're making money you can afford to swat the wright-fly as a cost of doing business.  But enthusiasts that participate because they love Bitcoins social or technological implications? Journalists that have razor thin margins?  Some of them-- perhaps many-- will find other things to do rather than be targeted.

I've already heard from a number of people, including fairly high profile journalists, that they're avoiding saying anything about wright (or, even, avoiding retracting stuff they previously published which they now know to be false) because they're concerned about frivolous litigation by wright.

And that is, of course, exactly what he wants. It's expensive for him to sue people,  so much better if he can spend a few minutes throwing around a bunch of baseless threats and then a large number of people well self censor.

[achach]

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against Craig? After all, he deceives people .

[hv_]

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against Craig? After all, he deceives people .

I recommend cz  stand up

[FanatMonet]

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against Craig? After all, he deceives people .

I also wonder why no one has called him to account for all his words that he said, and many of which in one way or another harmed Bitcoin. Although I do not exclude the option that most of him simply do not perceive him as a serious person, whose words could be trusted.

[DooMAD]

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against Craig? After all, he deceives people .

It's a job for the state to prosecute criminals and lock them up for the laws they have broken.  That alone should be sufficient.  Perjury and fraud both seem likely charges at some point.  Wouldn't surprise me at all if there were others too.

[nutildah]

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against Craig? After all, he deceives people .

There a pretty famous lawsuit going on against him right now: he is being sued by the brother of his former business partner. We've been discussing it pretty extensively in the Bitcoin SV Scam Accusation thread. There's a decent 4 part blog series about it that starts here.