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........... HIV weakens the immune system so people need antibiotics to protect them from other viruses these antibiotics dont cure HIV or help HIV. they re used to help prevent people get other flu's
Bullocks, injecting Anti-biotics, aka against living organisms = death does not protect from anything it kills bacteria, fungus.... It does so very effective including the good bacteria which the body needs. It can not kill a virus as it is not alive to start with. Viruses can not reproduce and need a host to make more of them. Once host is infected it will stay with the host until the temperature reaches 30°C / 86°F, outliving the host. Once the immune overpowers it, it keeps it under control, seduces it. Some viruses are crafty and escape easy, herpes reappearances are common. again. not to try getting into a rebuttal. but things like antibiotics are not to cure things like HIV let me take a second to remind you of the V its VIRUS its to protect people against other things that way if someone who is old and has a weak imune system for instance based on diabetes or something else. if they get corona they dont also want their body fighting off something else at the same time. like many things like ecoli, MRSA and such. again. antibiotics are not used to cure HIV or corona. there is no link between HIV and corona. again. the medication that people with weak immune systems already due to many reasons. will be given things like antibiotics which these many things like diebetes hiv corona can cause weak immune systems again. just to try and clarify to you. the media and some numpties here are trying hard to make it sound like corona is HIV based. purely due to the medication corona sufferers get also being medication HIV sufferers get. it has nothing to do with curing the virus.. get that point? its to do with helping them be protected from other stuff while their immune system is compromised by things like HIV, diebetes and corona here is an analogy for you if you smoke. one thing doctors advise is to use toothpaste to prevent gum and teeth problems with smoking if you eat candy one thing doctors advise is to use toothpaste to prevent gum and teeth problems with candy stupid people will say that candy is related to smoking. all due to toothpaste advice do you get it. do you get the stupidity of that assumption?
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Wuhan Institute of Virology from 4-12-2015 http://english.whiov.cas.cn/Research2016/Research_Progress2016/201712/t20171215_187953.htmlThe emergence of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS)-CoV underscores the threat of cross-species transmission events leading to outbreaks in humans.
Recently, Prof. Zhengli Shi and Xingyi Ge from WIV, in cooperation with researchers from University of North Carolina, Harvard Medical School, Bellinzona Institute of Microbiology and etc, examine the disease potential of a SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, which is currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations. Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, the scientists generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein.
On the basis of these findings, they synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. The work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations. Determining truth is often a matter of piecing together clues. This information above is one clue. It tells us that part of the research being done at the Wuhan institute of virology included deliberately modifying the spike proteins of animal coronaviruses (part of the virus that binds to a cell) in order to allow it to bind and infect human cells. The most logical reason one would pursue such research is biowarfare. In addition this particular coronavirus has some very unusual proprieties never before seen in the coronavirus family. Specifically it has genes that allow it to bind to furin which would allow it to attach to and infect cells via the same binding mechanism HIV uses. That is why you see news articles about HIV drugs being used to treat this. Is this unexpected addition to the coronavirus natural? You will have to decide that. What is fact is that it is technically possible for this to be a human created addition. Chinese scientists desperately researching coronavirus discover that it shares human cell binding site with HIVhttps://www.rt.com/news/481837-coronavirus-research-cell-binding-hiv/It is well-known by now that 2019-nCoV shares over 80 percent of its DNA with Sars virus, making the cause of the 2002/3 outbreak in Southeast Asia its closest genetic relative. Sars invaded the human body by binding to a receptor protein, called ACE2, on the membranes of cells. But this was ultimately the downfall of that virus — ACE2 is rare in the cells of healthy people, which limited the spread of Sars significantly, resulting in it burning itself out by 2004. In the end, only about 8,000 people worldwide were infected, as compared to covid-19 which has already infected over 80,000 people.
Unlike Sars, the novel Coronavirus has a section of genes that are absent from the Sars genome, according to this research. In fact, they bear resemblance to genes found in HIV and Ebola. These genes may encode for a different pathway targeting the protein furin on human cells, which is how HIV and Ebola attack. If it operates as those other viruses do, this mutation could make it up to 1,000 times better at binding to human cells than Sars.
A third clue is the strange silence about patient zero. Where is the race to find the first infected patient. Why the persistent promotion of the Wuhan animal market as the source of this when it was clear from the beginning that the first known cases did not come from that market. Why has their been complete silence on tracing the origin of this for weeks? One possibility is that the Communist in China know where and how this started and don't want that known. While it is possible for a virus to cross from the animal to the human population anywhere it certainly is an odd coincidence that this would happen right next to the only lab in china where they handle these deadly disease and are known to conduct coronavirus gain of function research. The totality of the admittedly circumstantial evidence points to this being a man made disaster courtesy of human stupidity. However, it does not really matter much at the moment. Regardless of how this started it is everybody's problem now.
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March 02, 2020, 02:30:44 AM |
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I do believe the circumstantial evidence suggests that this virus might be man made likely in the Wuhan institute of virology but be careful for in looking for conspiracy you have crossed the line into claims that are false. You are incorrect when you say the multiple repeating a's in the viruses genome are incompatible with nature. Such repeats are known to exist in viruses. This one in particular is known to exist in the HIV virus. Long Terminal Repeatshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_terminal_repeatLong terminal repeats (LTRs) are identical sequences of DNA that repeat hundreds or thousands of times found at either end of retrotransposons or proviral DNA formed by reverse transcription of retroviral RNA.[1] They are used by viruses to insert their genetic material into the host genomes.[1] ... HIV-1 Poly A plays roles both in dimerization and genome packaging since it is necessary for cleavage and polyadenylation. It has been reported that sequences upstream (U3 region) and downstream (U5 region) are needed in order to make the cleavage process efficient.[9]
While one must never underestimate the capacity for human evil which indeed is almost boundless Hanlon's razor nevertheless remains true in most circumstances. "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." Evil as we are we are more stupid then evil.
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March 06, 2020, 08:02:53 PM |
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I would totally understand if people think its unthinkable that any government will ever release a virus deliberately.
But think of World War I, an even worse catastrophe. The media is still struggling to explain why the US and UK joined the war, getting almost a million Britons killed. Objectively, that war did move the seat of the global money and imperial bubble from Britain to a friendly US, while knocking unfriendly Germany out of the running.
From the elites' point of view, think of the consequences of doing nothing. If this 'everything bubble' is allowed to keep inflating, its eventual messy burst would not only create a worldwide economic disaster, but also point the blame more directly at the money system, which is the basis of the elites' power.
All I'm saying is, let's keep an open mind.
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March 06, 2020, 10:24:33 PM |
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It is quite possible. In addition, there are many reasons why this happened in China. China is a progressive country. In order to slow it down - biological weapons were used. I would not be surprised if a 100% active vaccine was originally from those who created this virus.
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March 07, 2020, 07:38:20 AM |
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We should be open to any thought on this. The strain is not natural. And Wuhan is not just another Chinese city, it's the center for Chinese medical research and studies.
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March 07, 2020, 07:56:08 AM |
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We should be open to any thought on this. The strain is not natural. And Wuhan is not just another Chinese city, it's the center for Chinese medical research and studies.
Level 4 labs dont do any medical research or studies this lever is reserved for military use only.
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March 07, 2020, 09:17:20 AM |
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We should be open to any thought on this. The strain is not natural. And Wuhan is not just another Chinese city, it's the center for Chinese medical research and studies.
Level 4 labs dont do any medical research or studies this lever is reserved for military use only. Actually they can. Its simply they are authorized to handle even more dangerous things, that have no cure... If they followed protocol for a proper Biosafety Level 4 lab, it seems not possible for a virus to casually "escape". Perhaps the theory of patient zero has some merit, an accident within the lab that warranted that patient being treated in the hospital (Dec 1, 2019). If you read the linked Wikipedia article, you'll notice that SARS-CoV-2 is being handled in Level 3 facilities (same as SARS, and MERS before). Biosafety level 1 is suitable for work with well-characterized agents which do not cause disease in healthy humans. Biosafety level 2 is suitable for work involving agents of moderate potential hazard to personnel and the environment. Biosafety level 3 is appropriate for work involving microbes which can cause serious and potentially lethal disease via the inhalation route. Biosafety level 4 is the highest level of biosafety precautions, and is appropriate for work with agents that could easily be aerosol-transmitted within the laboratory and cause severe to fatal disease in humans for which there are no available vaccines or treatments.
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You right, apparently 51 active level 4 labs exist in the world, one in Wuhan, China. 15 in USA, 6 UK, 4 Australia and Germany, 3 India, 2 in Italy, Romania, Taiwan, Switzerland and Japan (1*), *no longer operational 1 each in Belarus, Canada, China, Czech, France, Gabon, Netherlands, Russia, South Africa and Sweden ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | .................................................. | Level | Virology Laboratory of the Qld Department of Health | Aus, Qld, Coopers Plains | 4 | University of Qld, Sir Albert Sakzewski Virus Research Centre (SASVRC) | Aus, Qld, Herston | 3+4 | Australian Animal Health Laboratory | Aus, Victoria, Geelong | 4 | National High Security Laboratory | Aus, Victoria, North Melbourne | 4 | Republican Research & Practical Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology | Belarus, Minsk | 4 | National Microbiology Laboratory | Canada, Manitoba, Winnipeg | 4 | Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences | China, Hubei, Wuhan | 3 - 4 | Biological Defense Center | Czech Republic, Pardubice, Těchonín | 4 | Laboratoire P4 Jean Mérieux | France, Rhône-Alpes, Lyon | 4 | Centre International de Recherches Médicales de Franceville | Gabon | 4 | Robert Koch Institute | Germany, Berlin | 4 | Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine | Germany, Hamburg | 4 | Friedrich Loeffler Institute on the Isle of Riems | Germany, Isle of Riems | 4 | Philipps University of Marburg | Germany, Marburg | 4 | High Security Animal Disease Laboratory (HSADL) | India, Bhopal | 4 | Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology | India, Hyderabad | 4 | All India Institute of Medical Sciences | India, New Delhi | 1-4 | Azienda Ospedaliera Ospedale Luigi Sacco | Italy, Lombardy, Milan | 4 | Istituto Nazionale Malattie Infettive | Italy, Rome, Rome | 4 | National Institute for Infectious Diseases | Japan, Kantō, Tokyo | 3 (4) | Institute of Physical and Chemical Research | Japan, Kantō, Tsukuba | 4* | Netherlands National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) | Netherlands, Bilthoven | 3 - 4 | Cantacuzino Microbiological Research Institute (INCDMI) | Romania, Bucharest | 4 | "Dr. Carol Davila" Central Military Hospital | Romania, Bucharest | 3 - 4 | State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology VECTOR | Russia, Novosibirsk Oblast, Koltsovo | 1 - 4 | National Institute for Communicable Diseases | South Africa, Johannesburg | 4 | Swedish Institute for Communicable Disease Control | Sweden, Solna | 4 | Institute of Virology and Immunoprophylaxis (IVI) | Switzerland, Mittelhäusern | 4 | High Containment Laboratory DDPS (SiLab) | Switzerland, Spiez | 4 | Kwen-yang Laboratory (昆陽實驗室) Center of Disease Control | Taiwan | 4 | Preventive Medical Institute of ROC Ministry of National Defense | Taiwan | 4 | Health Protection Agency's Centre for Infections | United Kingdom, Colindale | 4 | National Institute for Medical Research | United Kingdom, London | 4 | Institute for Animal Health | United Kingdom, Pirbright | 4 | Defence Science and Technology Laboratory | United Kingdom, Porton Down | 4 | Health Protection Agency | United Kingdom, Porton Down | 4 | Health Protection Agency | United Kingdom, Porton Down | 4 | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention | US, Georgia, Atlanta | 4 | Georgia State University | US, Georgia, Atlanta | 4 | National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF), Kansas State University | US, Kansas, Manhattan | 4 | National Institutes of Health (NIH) | US, Bethesda | 4 | Integrated Research Facility | US, Maryland, Fort Detrick | 4 | National Biodefense Analysis and Countermeasures Center (NBACC) | US, Maryland, Fort Detrick | 4 | US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) | US, Maryland, Fort Detrick | 4 | US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) | US, Maryland, Fort Detrick | 4 | National Emerging Infectious Diseases Lab (NEIDL), Boston University | US, Massachusetts, Boston | 4 | NIAID Rocky Mountain Laboratories | US, Montana, Hamilton | 4 | Kent State University, Kent Campus | US, Ohio, Kent | 3-4 | Galveston National Laboratory, National Biocontainment Facility | US, Texas, Galveston | 4 | Shope Laboratory | US, Texas, Galveston | 4 | Texas Biomedical Research Institute | US, Texas, San Antonio | 3+4 | Division of Consolidated Laboratory Services | US, Virginia, Richmond | 4 |
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A lot has happend and some amazing work. They claim 5 strains exist, so you can get it 5 times and the "L" strain is the lethal one. 3 key names. Maatja Benassi Matt Benassi Benny Benassi https://youtu.be/H8DRouhUIsQ
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I don't think that the Coronavirus Bioweapon it always happens in natural ways The pandemic is caused by natural causes but this coronavirus originated from China China is now almost unable to seek out how to cure failed doctors and doctors are almost tired. it's deadly but if the strain isn't natural then the coronavirus isn't a strain.
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March 26, 2020, 01:28:45 PM |
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A lot has happend and some amazing work. They claim 5 strains exist, so you can get it 5 times and the "L" strain is the lethal one. 3 key names. Maatja Benassi Matt Benassi Benny Benassi https://youtu.be/H8DRouhUIsQE-gad. I didn't know that comedy troupe was still around. I liked the brother 'Dave Acton' back when he was going strong. I didn't watch much mostly because it's buffering so badly and because there are a lot more credible sources without such a sordid history. I've got like three vids paused half-way already. FWIW, I found truthstreammedia's latest to be worth the watch.
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March 27, 2020, 05:01:37 AM |
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Just because it infected many people and it came from China means that it is a bioweapon or something, the links you gave are all clickbaits. Use your common sense and think for yourself, plus you are on the Internet then you should know that most information are taken with a grain of salt. Watch the news, they are likely to give accurate information.
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March 27, 2020, 05:35:37 AM |
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Just because it infected many people and it came from China means that it is a bioweapon or something, the links you gave are all clickbaits. Use your common sense and think for yourself, plus you are on the Internet then you should know that most information are taken with a grain of salt. Watch the news, they are likely to give accurate information.
Anything is possible, but this seems like one of the least likely things to start happening any time soon.
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sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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