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February 19, 2020, 11:04:49 AM
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Checked out your packages and they don't seem very attractive in my opinion. 85% win rate over the long term in sports betting is insane in my opinion which is why your contact would have to prove that he is legit by showing proof of all 8K bets.

Also, it would be much better if he provided several free bets(Minimum 1.5 odds or higher) to prove that his skills are legit which would tempt gamblers to sign up for the packages. Just a couple of suggestions from my side.

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February 19, 2020, 11:06:00 AM
Last edit: February 19, 2020, 11:39:32 AM by Stakefast
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We can provide fresh proofs at telegram If you want to make sure its legit.

Maybe we post some free bets here in future Smiley We need his permission for this though.

We will also update this thread here daily with our current wins.

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I have been against about buy sports predictions always. A question always around on mind especially when I see any prediction sales thread. Same question to you as well, if you have 80% 85% win predictions then why are you going to sell it instead of make huge money buy yourself? Just play yourself with your predictions and enjoy luxury life. Who will be responsible if players lose fund even though you are give it free for test. Money for test ? No question.

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February 19, 2020, 12:45:41 PM
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Same question to you as well, if you have 80% win predictions then why are you going to sell it instead of make huge money buy yourself?

80% says nothing, if you don't know the average odds Wink You can win 95% of your bets and still be a losing player. For the rest see here.



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Just linking to your website and expect people to make the effort to figure out themselves, is probably not what will help you a lot with getting new customers. Post free picks here for some time and make a weekly update for (all) your bets here - including staked, W/L, yield etc. statistics. It's some work, but will help in getting people interested in your service Wink

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February 19, 2020, 01:14:34 PM
Last edit: February 19, 2020, 01:46:45 PM by Stakefast
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I have been against about buy sports predictions always. A question always around on mind especially when I see any prediction sales thread. Same question to you as well, if you have 80% win predictions then why are you going to sell it instead of make huge money buy yourself? Just play yourself with your predictions and enjoy luxury life. Who will be responsible if players lose fund even though you are give it free for test. Money for test ? No question.

We started with a 1000$ bankroll 1 week ago and we're currently at 1350$ with arround 50$ bets at a time. You're the only one responsible if you loose within the 15% range of loosing matches. This is still gambling and a match can turn against the prediction at any given time.

Thats why you should bet max. 5/100 of your bankroll per match.

And why not selling it? There is no competition, why shouldn't more people know about those predictions? It doesn't hurt us in any way. We do not predict on unknown/small matches.

Same question to you as well, if you have 80% win predictions then why are you going to sell it instead of make huge money buy yourself?

80% says nothing, if you don't know the average odds Wink You can win 95% of your bets and still be a losing player. For the rest see here.



@OP

Just linking to your website and expect people to make the effort to figure out themselves, is probably not what will help you a lot with getting new customers. Post free picks here for some time and make a weekly update for (all) your bets here - including staked, W/L, yield etc. statistics. It's some work, but will help in getting people interested in your service Wink


Avg. Odds are ~ 1.5 on the safe bets, in the doubles group it can be up to 4.00 ods with obviously a bigger risk on them.

Will post updates frequently on here form now on, make sure to stay tuned Smiley


Thanks for your interest and opinions, we really appreciate it.

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February 19, 2020, 01:19:11 PM
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I would encourage that people don't suspend belief until OP proves that 85% win rate figure.

Unless they can prove they have a historic win rate of 85% dating back to 2014, it is likely either hyperbole or an outright lie.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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February 19, 2020, 01:42:46 PM
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Here is the proof of the last week:
https://i.imgur.com/L8ez8PA.mp4 (You need to rightclick on the video and open in a new window to get the full resolution)

2 bets per day, 1 parlay, 20 bets / 16 win / 4 loss  (1 was my own fault because I placed on 1st set win, she lost the 1st set but won the match)

This match is currently running:
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Prediction: Herbert wins

Match Live Stats:
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February 19, 2020, 01:58:29 PM
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I would encourage that people don't suspend belief until OP proves that 85% win rate figure.

Unless they can prove they have a historic win rate of 85% dating back to 2014, it is likely either hyperbole or an outright lie.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
You mean that they do suspend belief, I agree with you, this is quite the claim and needs a lot of proof. The whole proof via telegram and not showing any in the announcement feels like it's just hoisting up more red flags. 85% win ratio and they won't need to sell shit, they'd be in Vegas making millions.

Seems like you fully ignored my last 2 posts  Grin But thanks for your opinion.

And no, we're not in vegas making millions. We ourselfs place 50$ per bet. We basicly just have the contact and a deal with the analyst.

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February 19, 2020, 02:08:11 PM
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Here is the proof of the last week:
https://i.imgur.com/L8ez8PA.mp4 (You need to rightclick on the video and open in a new window to get the full resolution)

2 bets per day, 1 parlay, 20 bets / 16 win / 4 loss  (1 was my own fault because I placed on 1st set win, she lost the 1st set but won the match)

This match is currently running:
Pierre-Hugues Herbert v Mikhail Kukushkin
Prediction: Herbert wins

Match Live Stats:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&rlz=1C1CHBD_deDE789DE789&oq=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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February 19, 2020, 03:51:40 PM
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Checked out your packages and they don't seem very attractive in my opinion. 85% win rate over the long term in sports betting is insane in my opinion which is why your contact would have to prove that he is legit by showing proof of all 8K bets.

Also, it would be much better if he provided several free bets(Minimum 1.5 odds or higher) to prove that his skills are legit which would tempt gamblers to sign up for the packages. Just a couple of suggestions from my side.

Don't say that you actually believed this advertisment. 85% win rate is crazy and although this number attracts player they will soon realize that is not going to happen. This is not going to make you rich so don't waist your time and money. I don't think that someone can actually prove such win rate.

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February 19, 2020, 03:52:49 PM
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Checked out your packages and they don't seem very attractive in my opinion. 85% win rate over the long term in sports betting is insane in my opinion which is why your contact would have to prove that he is legit by showing proof of all 8K bets.

Also, it would be much better if he provided several free bets(Minimum 1.5 odds or higher) to prove that his skills are legit which would tempt gamblers to sign up for the packages. Just a couple of suggestions from my side.

Don't say that you actually believed this advertisment. 85% win rate is crazy and although this number attracts player they will soon realize that is not going to happen. This is not going to make you rich so don't waist your time and money.

Thanks for ignoring my posts.

I actually just prooved last weeks rate.

We'll keep this thread updated so you can make sure its actually ~ 85%.


Todays match predictions:

Bet proof: http://prntscr.com/r4oaua

Pierre-Hugues Herbert 2:0 Mikhail Kukushkin: Win
Dennis Novak 0:2 Egor Gerasimov: Win

This is from today, you can see the weekly overview at the original post.


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Not sure this is how its being done, just reminds me of an old scheme that was common for years probably is still being used somewhere with new punters maybe.   The idea is to predict the result to various penny stocks going up, getting good news and gaining 1000% say; this performance is possible and it does happen just like great betting streaks can happen.   The trick is to make a prediction for a thousand stocks and then only in retrospect mention to buyers of the newsletter the ones that went up as proof of your ability to see the future not the ones that went broke.   Similarly here, the proof could be to record every combination of match result and then just select after as proof the one that proved correct in retrospect and not mention the others.    I doubt its the case as its such a well known known trick, but I always thought that was a funny little easy money earner people pulled and worth mentioning.

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February 19, 2020, 05:24:33 PM
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Not sure this is how its being done, just reminds me of an old scheme that was common for years probably is still being used somewhere with new punters maybe.   The idea is to predict the result to various penny stocks going up, getting good news and gaining 1000% say; this performance is possible and it does happen just like great betting streaks can happen.   The trick is to make a prediction for a thousand stocks and then only in retrospect mention to buyers of the newsletter the ones that went up as proof of your ability to see the future not the ones that went broke.   Similarly here, the proof could be to record every combination of match result and then just select after as proof the one that proved correct in retrospect and not mention the others.    I doubt its the case as its such a well known known trick, but I always thought that was a funny little easy money earner people pulled and worth mentioning.



Thanks for your interest. We understand your concern. However, We would have to bet 50$ on each bet, on each account, on each session which would basicly make our btc vanish to just have a proof for this thread... hm  Grin Makes no sense.

Also we wouldnt offer a "test package" if we doubt our own odds. 20$ brings us nowhere, its just for some people to try the service.

Updates on the current win rate will follow tommorow

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February 19, 2020, 06:52:13 PM
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Thanks for ignoring my posts.

I actually just prooved last weeks rate.

We'll keep this thread updated so you can make sure its actually ~ 85%.


Todays match predictions:

Bet proof: http://prntscr.com/r4oaua

Pierre-Hugues Herbert 2:0 Mikhail Kukushkin: Win
Dennis Novak 0:2 Egor Gerasimov: Win

This is from today, you can see the weekly overview at the original post.



it looks like that you are ignoring the question of most users here? We would like to see proof but not only for one week
sure you can ignore also my question for the real proof

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February 19, 2020, 06:59:39 PM
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Thanks for ignoring my posts.

I actually just prooved last weeks rate.

We'll keep this thread updated so you can make sure its actually ~ 85%.


Todays match predictions:

Bet proof: http://prntscr.com/r4oaua

Pierre-Hugues Herbert 2:0 Mikhail Kukushkin: Win
Dennis Novak 0:2 Egor Gerasimov: Win

This is from today, you can see the weekly overview at the original post.



it looks like that you are ignoring the question of most users here? We would like to see proof but not only for one week
sure you can ignore also my question for the real proof


The analyst itself can proof you anything via telegram. We are advertising for this service because we think its one of the best (we've never had such a promised win rate ever and we tried a lot of these services) He posts his weekly/monthly and year statistics in the telegram group. We only have 1 week of experience with the analyst so far but a pretty successfull week, as posted above.

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February 19, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
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Don't say that you actually believed this advertisment. 85% win rate is crazy and although this number attracts player they will soon realize that is not going to happen. This is not going to make you rich so don't waist your time and money. I don't think that someone can actually prove such win rate.
I clearly mentioned that the 85% win rate is insane and tough to believe which is why I guess you misunderstood my post. I don't believe anything until adequate proof is available.

We only have 1 week of experience with the analyst so far but a pretty successfull week, as posted above.
This is the problem right here. 1 week of experience is nothing basically. If you want people to show interest in your offer, your contact would need to provide his 8K bet history with a 85% win rate as I mentioned in my post earlier. Its all about the proof(Legit).

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February 19, 2020, 08:53:17 PM
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Don't say that you actually believed this advertisment. 85% win rate is crazy and although this number attracts player they will soon realize that is not going to happen. This is not going to make you rich so don't waist your time and money. I don't think that someone can actually prove such win rate.
I clearly mentioned that the 85% win rate is insane and tough to believe which is why I guess you misunderstood my post. I don't believe anything until adequate proof is available.

We only have 1 week of experience with the analyst so far but a pretty successfull week, as posted above.
This is the problem right here. 1 week of experience is nothing basically. If you want people to show interest in your offer, your contact would need to provide his 8K bet history with a 85% win rate as I mentioned in my post earlier. Its all about the proof(Legit).

Thats not a problem, he can proof everything via telegram.

Will post daily updates in this thread so you can make sure its legit

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February 19, 2020, 10:51:31 PM
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People here want to see your averages. Post your record here on a daily basis so that people have a reference. Don't edit your posted prior picks but instead, update the result on the first main post. After that make your weekly stats.

You need a couple of months or more before you can prove your legitimacy here. 85% win rate is possible in the long-run but without an updated proof, no one will have an interest. Posting previous picks won't help as we don't know if that was your pick or made specifically to show positive results.

People here don't like to visit on Telegram. If only for proofs no need to go there. You can erase people's doubts here if you managed to achieve that 85% win rate and post your records here.
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