[CLOSED] KnC Titan Nightmare

[SebastianJu]

Well.. bit weird situation.

Seems like if no one can know something about the legal case, this situation can go on forever. It's a loop, isn't it?
Btw, Anykeywhy doesn't log this forum from years... He could just open the forum and keep update the post with something like: Today status: case is still open.
Can u please send his email address via PM to me? So i can write him personally.

Thank you.

I would prefer to send him another mail first so that he sees that this is not a situation that he should leave unattended.

[setterx]

Thank you Sebastian, please give us a feedback as soon as you can!
Regards.

[SebastianJu]

Thank you Sebastian, please give us a feedback as soon as you can!
Regards.

Will do when I get an answer... maybe remind me to send him a followup email when nothing happened. Previously it worked when I sent the second email but last time he did not react on it also.

[7bp]

Thank you Sebastian, please give us a feedback as soon as you can!
Regards.

Will do when I get an answer... maybe remind me to send him a followup email when nothing happened. Previously it worked when I sent the second email but last time he did not react on it also.

I think its time, so please send a followup email. Thanks.

[SebastianJu]

Thank you Sebastian, please give us a feedback as soon as you can!
Regards.

Will do when I get an answer... maybe remind me to send him a followup email when nothing happened. Previously it worked when I sent the second email but last time he did not react on it also.

I think its time, so please send a followup email. Thanks.

I did so now. If nothing works remind me to send a third email... after that failing I need to try checking out the situation through other means. Well, I doubt there are news anyway but still it's better to hear a lifesign.

[setterx]

Hello Sebastian!
Any update?

[SebastianJu]

Thanks for the reminder... I checked the email account again and I got a message though it does not sound like a good one... :/

Looks like the NDA is not valid anymore anyway then so here what I got. No info he would want me to keep private.

...
They went bankrupt someone knows this??? Our legal actions were a waste of time and resources unfortunately... nobody never helped as well...
...

[alexrossi]

net loss of 0.21 for me, and i'm sure that situation is worse for a lot of users here

Thanks sebju for your time and your services

[SebastianJu]

No problem. I'm sorry that there was no good ending.

[setterx]

good morning, any update in the air?
Thank you.

[Horifatto]

Update?
thx

[BITCOINDENMARK]

They went bankrupt.

[setterx]

http://kncclassaction.com

[Horifatto]

http://kncclassaction.com

Si ma penso che ormai il punto non è tanto se ci sia in corso una classaction o meno, il vero punto che akw non si fa più sentire da anni e quindi probabilmente ci ha inculato allegramente. L'unica è farsi dare la mail dall'escrow e provare a contattarlo. Mi è venuto anche il dubbio il mese dopo che è sparito, che la cosa fosse stata tutte orchestrata fin dall'inizio perchè c'è gente nel group buy che ci ha messo 5 o 6 btc e non si è nemmeno fatto sentire ne lamentato una volta...
Spero di essere smentito ma la vedo nera

[setterx]

Hello everyone, any news about this topic?
Thanks

@ Horifatto, sei stato smentito?

[setterx]

Any update? Sebastian?

[Th3P]

It would be nice to see some form of a response/update but I doubt we will.
It sad to see this happen on multi group buys and there is rarely/never any repercussions for the people behind them

[akwtemp]

hello

[premise]
- the other account was blocked (one of the forum db hacks caused a lot of issues...)
- apologies for the delayed update

[recap/update]
- nobody ever touched the funds. they were sent to the company.
- company started misbehaving
- we started suing them (ndas, and so on..)
- several jurisdictions and laws apply
- company went bankrupt
- customers have the lowest priority among all the creditors
- remaining assets of the company went sold (including equipment, stock, parts,...)
- they were not labeled, in any way, they went sold in "some sort of" auction
- other creditors had more priority, we appealed, we lost
- actions still continue on more fronts
- among the rest, the judges decided to review one of the closed cases
- they will update about the above in 2018 or hopefully in several months, beyond possibly having updates on other fronts too
- they said that eventually, in case of "success", some sort of refund would apply
- as there will be further substantial or final updates, they will be reported here in the forum somehow

[where we are]
- please identify the correct subject responsible of this whole situation: the company
- we, us, the escrow, have no responsibility at all over their behavior, actions and so on
- the whole thing is publicly known, we are not an exception, search the web please
- someone is still paying for and following all the legal actions and such, as always...
- nobody of you helped, in any way, never
- obviously, whatever success we would eventually achieve will be shared among all here, less the legal expenses

[considerations]
- we are not in the "far west" but in some developed country, laws apply...
- personal direct or indirect harassments, accuses, damage or whatever else not appropriate or polite will not be tolerated anymore
- privacy in europe is something extremely important, as well as for other rights and so on...
- we, me and the escrow have no personal responsibility at all over what happened with the company
- nobody will break the laws, as always, and nobody will damage itself more than already done
- please eventually select the correct subject/s in your communications and content
- all the communications not compliant with the laws will be at least ignored
- thanks


wishing to you all the best of luck, take care!

[Th3P]

Thanks for the response akw, One of the advantages of breaking into mainstream media/knowledge is awareness and hopefully this may assist in the understanding of loss of funds

[SebastianJu]

hello

[premise]
- the other account was blocked (one of the forum db hacks caused a lot of issues...)
- apologies for the delayed update

[recap/update]
- nobody ever touched the funds. they were sent to the company.
- company started misbehaving
- we started suing them (ndas, and so on..)
- several jurisdictions and laws apply
- company went bankrupt
- customers have the lowest priority among all the creditors
- remaining assets of the company went sold (including equipment, stock, parts,...)
- they were not labeled, in any way, they went sold in "some sort of" auction
- other creditors had more priority, we appealed, we lost
- actions still continue on more fronts
- among the rest, the judges decided to review one of the closed cases
- they will update about the above in 2018 or hopefully in several months, beyond possibly having updates on other fronts too
- they said that eventually, in case of "success", some sort of refund would apply
- as there will be further substantial or final updates, they will be reported here in the forum somehow

[where we are]
- please identify the correct subject responsible of this whole situation: the company
- we, us, the escrow, have no responsibility at all over their behavior, actions and so on
- the whole thing is publicly known, we are not an exception, search the web please
- someone is still paying for and following all the legal actions and such, as always...
- nobody of you helped, in any way, never
- obviously, whatever success we would eventually achieve will be shared among all here, less the legal expenses

[considerations]
- we are not in the "far west" but in some developed country, laws apply...
- personal direct or indirect harassments, accuses, damage or whatever else not appropriate or polite will not be tolerated anymore
- privacy in europe is something extremely important, as well as for other rights and so on...
- we, me and the escrow have no personal responsibility at all over what happened with the company
- nobody will break the laws, as always, and nobody will damage itself more than already done
- please eventually select the correct subject/s in your communications and content
- all the communications not compliant with the laws will be at least ignored
- thanks


wishing to you all the best of luck, take care!

I can confirm that this user is the new account of the real akw that started the groupbuy back then. I'm in contact with the original user through his email address we wrote through.