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February 26, 2020, 11:49:20 AM
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That's kinda scary. Good thing that I don't hold that much of funds in an online wallet, except for cases that I need to cash it out or buy something for the provided services like buying credits from certain platforms or even buying mobile phone credits. This is why I don't really feel safe in online wallets, even if 2fa is enabled. Hackers don't sit all day waiting for prey. They're just always there behind the monitors planning something anyday.
Consider investing to hardware wallets, it isn't that 100% security but it lessens the possibility of having these losses.
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February 26, 2020, 12:16:52 PM
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Someone with that amount of Bitcoin? There is no way they would store on their mobile phone in an exchange or on a samsung phone. This has to be fake. How on earth could a whale let this happen in such a hacker driven environment around the space? I don't believe this.

You have a point though, but, nobody can tell what exactly happened to him as such amount shouldn't have be kept into online wallet. The victim might be those who haven't interested in the knowing of this technology but rather love to associate with the investment involved. We still have many of them till  date and when this happened they tend to blame the community. We must learn many things about security in thus regards, the amount of funds are too much to keep online. As you're investing in your portfolios ensure to invest in your knowledge too.
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February 26, 2020, 12:34:07 PM
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Someone with that amount of Bitcoin? There is no way they would store on their mobile phone in an exchange or on a samsung phone. This has to be fake. How on earth could a whale let this happen in such a hacker driven environment around the space? I don't believe this.

You have a point though, but, nobody can tell what exactly happened to him as such amount shouldn't have be kept into online wallet. The victim might be those who haven't interested in the knowing of this technology but rather love to associate with the investment involved.

the title says crypto whale . whale means expert on this field so i dont believe that he arent aware of the risk plus not only him but many pro and big hodlers do also got hacked no matter how they secure thier accounts . thats only an evidence that hackers are smarter  than the users of the wallet and exchanges because they know how to bypass any security without us knowing it and they mainly target big people because me i havent been hacked yet luckily as im also a small time cryptoer
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February 26, 2020, 01:12:11 PM
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It was horrible, I couldn't imagine if I were him who lose a lot money. Against, hacking is someting bad that always (often) happening on bitcoin user and I guess we can't avoid it. I just thinking, what is the safest way to store bitcoin? And what is the right way to exchange them to money fiat.

And also this thing will be made by other people there especially newcomers as a fear. Let say, they have known bitcoin and its promising place for investing because they could get a huge profit from it, but in another side they will be pay attention for security thing which I mean that is the first factor that should be watch out for.
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February 26, 2020, 01:26:24 PM
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Investor of such caliber should have know the he's not save with the low risk. For such huge amount of money to be stores without necessary precautions means that; many are whales that never understand the way cryptocurrency should be protected. Personally, I wouldn't risk my small sats for just keeping the digital  currency online but hardware wallet. You could have averted this only if you were cautions of protection.

Totally agree. As well, you should not use the same device for cryptocurrency transactions as for private and personal use (even if we are speaking about thousands, not millions of USD). Especially if on that device you are browsing for potentially unsafe content eg. porn, downloading files while having saved passwords stored in your browser. 

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February 29, 2020, 10:35:23 AM
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Someone with that amount of Bitcoin? There is no way they would store on their mobile phone in an exchange or on a samsung phone. This has to be fake. How on earth could a whale let this happen in such a hacker driven environment around the space? I don't believe this.

You have a point though, but, nobody can tell what exactly happened to him as such amount shouldn't have be kept into online wallet. The victim might be those who haven't interested in the knowing of this technology but rather love to associate with the investment involved.

the title says crypto whale . whale means expert on this field so i dont believe that he arent aware of the risk plus not only him but many pro and big hodlers do also got hacked no matter how they secure thier accounts . thats only an evidence that hackers are smarter  than the users of the wallet and exchanges because they know how to bypass any security without us knowing it and they mainly target big people because me i havent been hacked yet luckily as im also a small time cryptoer

You have misinterpreted my opinions, whales are expert but yet was using the same device which he or she use to surf through the internet to store his or.portfolios. known fully well that; any device use to surf the internet is not safe but prone to hacks. Believed me, that victim have no interest on knowing the technology but derived pleasure in what he or she can gain through the technology. Its a lesson for others who thought the technology is just about earnings. In yge first place, why not such huge amount of funds store in a ledger which cost $75 instead of storing them on the  same device used to surf the internet. Believed me, he's learning the lesson against the future.
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February 29, 2020, 12:10:10 PM
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It was horrible, I couldn't imagine if I were him who lose a lot money. Against, hacking is someting bad that always (often) happening on bitcoin user and I guess we can't avoid it. I just thinking, what is the safest way to store bitcoin? And what is the right way to exchange them to money fiat.

And also this thing will be made by other people there especially newcomers as a fear. Let say, they have known bitcoin and its promising place for investing because they could get a huge profit from it, but in another side they will be pay attention for security thing which I mean that is the first factor that should be watch out for.

You keep two wallets, one of long term big sums, this is an offline (cold) wallet; essentially a piece of paper with some words written in it by hand (yes really). This is a wallet you can only deposit funds to, not withdraw unless you move it "online" (hot), something which should only be done rarely and with the appropriate security precautions (ie. linux live image booting in a secured pc).

The other wallet, for small day to day sums. Prepare to lose it at any time (ie. stolen phone, forgotten password, etc). You should decide up to what amount you are willing to lose "suddenly", the excess send it to the cold wallet where is safe from "hackers". This wallet can be a hardware wallet for added security, rather than a smartphone or regular pc.

Unlike what some people think, hardware wallets should not be used for long term cold storage. Electronic things can fail, but of course the hardware wallet also gives you seed words for you to write in a piece of paper...

Newcomers need to adapt. Bitcoin is not identical to fiat, it cannot be handled the same way. It is not THAT hard, but its different, and you have to get used to it. This is the responsibility of being your own bank. Sure, you can STILL pay others to handle your money, if you trust in them (as you trust in banks). That's what those online wallets, exchanges, (and surely banks in the future) are for. Think Binance can protect your money better than you? Give it to them. I don't think that is wise tho, but traders get greedy and cannot stand having a large sum safely stored in a cold wallet, which is why so many people lose so much money when an exchange fails. The smart trader would only trade with a part, and keep the other part safe.

But this might be a generational divide, same way smartphones disrupted people's lives, while millennials take them for granted. Fiat money is, after all, a pre-internet era thing, just like old fashioned land line phones, film photography, vinyl record players etc. Give it a couple more decades and you might see fiat money becoming the way of the horse carriage.

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