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February 23, 2020, 04:02:49 PM
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The Trade Satoshi exchange announced on Thursday it is closing down on March 1st, giving its users just 10 days from the date of announcement to withdraw their coins. The exchange had been riddled with problems for quite some time, including frequent withdraw delays, account closures, absurdly high withdrawal fees, and the locking of customer accounts for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

One of the things making it hard for the exchange's remaining customers to withdraw their coins is the fact that they frequently have been in "maintenance mode" during the last few days, and even when customers can log into their accounts, they see the withdraw option for Bitcoin (and other coins) disabled.

Some customers logged into their account only to see new KYC documentation requests, preventing them from attempting to withdraw coins or even cancel trades. Others are reporting that their 2-FA codes are no longer working on Google Authenticator.

Whatever the actual reason for the closure seems to be, it would appear that Trade Satoshi seriously does not want customers to withdraw their coins, despite there being only 8 days remaining before the scheduled closure.

For a background on the exchange, its operator, and a look into its bizarre connections with Cryptopia, you can read more here:

https://coinclarity.com/trade-satoshi-closing-exit-scam-likely/

Here is the Twitter announcement, followed by scores of complaints from frustrated users underneath:

https://twitter.com/TradeSatoshi/status/1230509341142220800

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February 23, 2020, 07:22:24 PM
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Actually not surprised for this thing to happen.. Come to think that 10 days given for its users to have withdrawals is already shady.. 1 month would be enough or considerable and
now they are trying to stop their users to withdraw by having these disabled system or asking out for KYC? Its not really that obvious and i feel sorry for those users who are
struggling to pull out their funds on this scammy exchange.It doesnt looks like and exit scam but it is indeed an exit scam. Lol!

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February 24, 2020, 12:09:00 AM
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I'm sorry to see this.

Tradesatoshi has already been on my list of exchanges to avoid for a long time. Complaints about selective scamming and stonewalling during the KYC process have been piling up since a year ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118992
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121465
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrencyTrading/comments/b2w8d6/tradesatoshi_accounts_blocking_beware/

Their BCT account has been tagged with red trust for a long time too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=902367

Some people are definitely going to get screwed here. Angry

This is another reminder to minimize the length of time and amount of funds you entrust exchanges with. Not your keys, not your coins. Those exchange balances can evaporate at a moments notice.

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February 24, 2020, 12:12:22 AM
Last edit: February 24, 2020, 12:24:44 AM by bullrun2020bro
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Whatever the actual reason for the closure seems to be, it would appear that Trade Satoshi seriously does not want customers to withdraw their coins, despite there being only 8 days remaining before the scheduled closure.

There is also a thread in the German subboard in which several users state that they are forced to update new KYC verification documents, before they are able to withdraw any coins from the exchange. Sadly, no user did manage to successfully withdraw any coins yet. Also the user Lafu reported that the official TradeSatoshi Discord got closed without a warning.

TradeSatoshis behaviour looks very suspicious and it's likely that they are exit scamming their users.

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I am really feeling sorry for the users concerned and I hope they find a way to get their coins back, before this shithole shuts down.

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February 24, 2020, 11:58:08 AM
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Pretty weird that this got moved to the Exchanges board. But whatever. It does indeed pertain to exchanges so I can't complain.

I'd like to know more about the connection between Trade Satoshi in Cryptopia. The founder and designer of Cryptopia got caught attempting to arbitrage Safex tokens between Cryptopia and Trade Satoshi by moving them directly from hot wallet to hot wallet. From an article on Altcoinbuzz:

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We reached out to one of the delisted projects, SafeX. Richard Bate, SafeX advisor, commented:

“Over 18 months ago, Safex was delisted from Cryptopia, apparently due to an “aggressive community member”. The former CTO of Cryptopia, Adam Clark, decided on the spot in Discord to delist Safex because someone (apparently aggressive) asked when the wallets would come out of maintenance.

This seemed like a very unproportional response to a lone member who didn’t represent the entire community. So we did some digging.

Reviewing the known wallets of Safex on Cryptopia, we noticed big trades directly between the hot-wallets of Cryptopia and TradeSatoshi. (The unusual part here is that you don’t deposit to the main wallets on either exchange, you deposit to a personal address so they know how much you’ve deposited.

Our running theory was that someone internally on both sides was attempting to do arbitration trades and managed to lose a lot of Safex in the process.

This was further confirmed later when they didn’t have the Safex to cover the withdrawals of those who had funds left on their Cryptopia account. We saw regular withdrawals from TS [TradeSatoshi] straight to the Cryptopia hot-wallet which co-inside with the timing of when certain members suddenly got their funds back.

The delisting of Safex due to this one community member was a convenient exit strategy so they could save face.

Make it a problem with us, rather than them.

A few months later, we learn that the CTO, Adam Clark, had been “let go” of Cryptopia. My guess is that something was discovered that was bad enough to force one of the founding directors of the company out.

A few months later after that, we find that Adam started working for Trade Satoshi as a Senior Developer.”

Adam Clark had a hand in designing the Trade Satoshi website:

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“Cryptopia, Tradesatoshi and Assetylene obviously all look alike because I made/designed each platform, so I guess I have a style maybe,” he said.

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/24750/cryptopia-founder-plans-to-set-up-new-exchange

Is there a possibility he is behind the downfall of both exchanges, or is simply a case of one unreputable individual helping another?

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February 24, 2020, 05:49:16 PM
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I do not think that scammers like Trade Satoshi Exchange will simply turn into "Exit Scam" and leave the market, they will return with a new name.
If you focus, you will notice a new platform similar to Trade Satoshi will appears after a few days or months.

As for the reason for their sudden disappear, they are not collecting profits, especially since many has become aware of them as scammers and there are many indications that reinforce this:

 - Non-real cryptos rates: There are big differences in currency rates, which is an indication that the platform is losing money and therefore trying to attract more with amazing spikes.
 - Maintenance times: Many platforms enter into many maintenance times to reduces servers resources and thus reduce losses.

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March 02, 2020, 10:23:46 AM
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SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How to find this crazy australian - Francesco Alibrandi?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh
He given only 10 days to withdraw, I've discovered down-site yesterday, my 10k USD are lost with this stupid scam-change!!!!!

Please, help anybody!!!
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March 03, 2020, 10:51:54 AM
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SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How to find this crazy australian - Francesco Alibrandi?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh
He given only 10 days to withdraw, I've discovered down-site yesterday, my 10k USD are lost with this stupid scam-change!!!!!

Please, help anybody!!!

You can find a street address for Alibrandi here:

https://www.nzlbusiness.com/company/registered/Cryptopia-Limited

He was a shareholder in Cryptopia. The only thing is it might not be his most current address as the filing is a few years old. I'm pretty certain he still lives in Sydney, Australia, though.

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November 16, 2020, 01:07:51 AM
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SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How to find this crazy australian - Francesco Alibrandi?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh
He given only 10 days to withdraw, I've discovered down-site yesterday, my 10k USD are lost with this stupid scam-change!!!!!

Please, help anybody!!!
This sounds like an italian name to me.. If he's behind the Tradesatoshi exit scam i could try to find him..
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May 31, 2021, 04:51:35 AM
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SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How to find this crazy australian - Francesco Alibrandi?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh
He given only 10 days to withdraw, I've discovered down-site yesterday, my 10k USD are lost with this stupid scam-change!!!!!

Please, help anybody!!!
This sounds like an italian name to me.. If he's behind the Tradesatoshi exit scam i could try to find him..

He is not Italian, he is Russian, I found him on linkedin, he blocked me immediately.

The LinkedIn URL you provided in your other post doesn't lead to a profile.

The owner of TradeSatoshi is Francesco Alibrandi. He's a real person who lives in Australia AFAIK.

He's been harassing me here and elsewhere since I exposed him 2-3 years ago.

Trust me: I'd be interested in bringing the real operator of TradeSatoshi to justice: if you have any other info about this Russian bloke I'll look into it.

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