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March 01, 2020, 07:40:25 PM
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
You are right about the acquisition of any property. With real goods that you can touch or use anonymity is practically excluded. They will not track the currency for which the “product” was purchased, but the product itself and its current owner

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March 01, 2020, 07:48:58 PM
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I think the "free from restriction" on real anonymous coins is just an illusion.  I agree anyone can send anon coins to anyone not being tracked but due to its nature, it was restricted to be used in mainstream trade.  Several anonymous coins were delisted from the different exchanges, restricting them to be traded on that platform.   Aside from that governments are doing its best to combat this anonymity things due to the reason for money laundering.  In a world where transactions are governed by a central authority, I cannot say that anonymous coins do not face any restrictions from these institutions.
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March 02, 2020, 09:08:20 PM
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I think the "free from restriction" on real anonymous coins is just an illusion.  I agree anyone can send anon coins to anyone not being tracked but due to its nature, it was restricted to be used in mainstream trade.  Several anonymous coins were delisted from the different exchanges, restricting them to be traded on that platform.   Aside from that governments are doing its best to combat this anonymity things due to the reason for money laundering.  In a world where transactions are governed by a central authority, I cannot say that anonymous coins do not face any restrictions from these institutions.
As long as corruption exists, there will be decentralized pseudo anonymity as part of an agreement by a group of government fraudsters. But this anonymity will be anonymous as long as the amount of anonymous funds does not exceed the amount that can interest large players or regulators. In short, while you sit quietly and do not stick out ... the anonymity will be anonymous, as soon as you start to chic and drive on a lambo, anonymity will come to an end

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March 02, 2020, 09:12:40 PM
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
You are right about the acquisition of any property. With real goods that you can touch or use anonymity is practically excluded. They will not track the currency for which the “product” was purchased, but the product itself and its current owner

And you can't avoid those circumstances as we need tangible products in everyday life. It is not that we can use virtual equipment or gadgets or virtual properties. So with these actual properties in possession, that's where we need to comply with government taxes.
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March 03, 2020, 07:06:51 AM
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
Most of the centralized exchanges require identity certificates with no anonymity at all.
Through the decentralized resonance trade in VDS, anyone can convert Bitcoin into Vollar without any personal identification, and transfer Vollar to an anonymous address after the resonance transaction is completed, making it impossible to trace the money.
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March 03, 2020, 08:09:26 AM
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Firstly, i think the OP didnt understand that there are semi-centralized and totally centralized exchange site and the last time i checked  none of the anonymous coins are listed on centralized exchange site. With that been said, the reason why most of the anonymous coins experienced decline in price is because of the governments against anonymous coins and i dont see any reason now why previous Anonymous coins or tbe mentioned by the OP will be free from restrictions..

Note : Ignore the hype OP crypto investors are no longer stupid.

yes, it can be dangerous if misused, as well as tools or other objects.
while poisonous plants can be used as medicine if they are used and handled correctly.
so it would be great if it was according to the procedure they said.
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March 03, 2020, 08:32:06 AM
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Most of the coins are free from restrictions but the users themselves give up their anonymity while trading the coin in or out from fiat currency. This is the point where the government can really track users. If we are able to create a self sustaining market around privacy focused coins, there's no stopping it. Though real estates and large physical goods won't remain out of government radar.
You are right about the acquisition of any property. With real goods that you can touch or use anonymity is practically excluded. They will not track the currency for which the “product” was purchased, but the product itself and its current owner

And you can't avoid those circumstances as we need tangible products in everyday life. It is not that we can use virtual equipment or gadgets or virtual properties. So with these actual properties in possession, that's where we need to comply with government taxes.

Government taxes will be implemented, so if some establishment will try to skip on it I believed they're subjected by the punishment of the law. Legit products will aim a trusted users, so much better to reveal your identity once found out that you're involved with virtualized coin as part of cryptocurrency adoption.
US already implemented the taxation to the crypto users on all of the US-based major exchange sites. Those developers can be traced anytime and i think if they will never try to doa mistake to avoid the regulation. We could see what happened with some developers and they were even getting sub-poena from SEC caused by they were trying to avoid to be compliant with US regulation.
As long as we just follow all of the regulation and nothing happen with us. So many projects are being anonymous already appeared as it was getting threatened by the regulators.
It's better to keep everything transparent when it's related to the exchange site rather than taking a big risk that can make us become the next criminal.
When people wanna get their privacy and just do direct transactions that used anonymous tech and that's enough to make them all become untraceable.

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March 03, 2020, 09:10:35 PM
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The future of cryptocurrencies looks very centralized due to the expanding influence of regulators.
Private coins to one degree or another leave the market, which in the future may lead to their complete or partial disappearance from the market.
Although I doubt that it will lead to this because decentralization is the heart of the crypto market, which means that anonymous coins will live.

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March 03, 2020, 09:17:43 PM
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How exactly does this decentralized OTC process work?

Surely it's not anonymous when there are bank transfers involved? Unless you've got some sort of way to also mix fiat funds before sending them out?

Is there a document I can read about how VDS' decentralized OTC works?
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March 04, 2020, 03:40:31 AM
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If privacy coins can be sell off without the involvement of any centralized organization or platforms then it will remain anonymous, I think that's one fine use case that all anonymous coins don't have presently
VDS has achieved a distributed OTC Exchange by combining smart contracts onto chat groups in the Secret Chat function. Vollar is used as the primary medium of exchange to perform frictionless transactions with currencies across the globe.
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March 04, 2020, 04:00:24 AM
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Firstly, i think the OP didnt understand that there are semi-centralized and totally centralized exchange site and the last time i checked  none of the anonymous coins are listed on centralized exchange site. With that been said, the reason why most of the anonymous coins experienced decline in price is because of the governments against anonymous coins and i dont see any reason now why previous Anonymous coins or tbe mentioned by the OP will be free from restrictions..

Note : Ignore the hype OP crypto investors are no longer stupid.

yes, it can be dangerous if misused, as well as tools or other objects.
while poisonous plants can be used as medicine if they are used and handled correctly.
so it would be great if it was according to the procedure they said.
Argument is correct if being used correctly it's okay to exist but knowing how eager the government wanted to get control about anything that exist from their jurisdictions especially when it talks about financial concern.
Anonymous coins can be used as mentioned but most of the investors and traders are treating this venue as source of incomes by dealing with day trading and they are very much willing to take the risk working with centralized exchange.
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March 04, 2020, 04:59:26 AM
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Coins of confidentiality will always be the objects of close attention of states and their governments, since by their nature states do not tolerate financial anonymity. It has always been known that someone who does not control finances does not have real power. Governments will always try to limit the circulation of coins in a high level of confidentiality. Craftsmen from the people will oppose this and decentralized cryptocurrency for the first time provides a good chance in this matter. We will witness a long struggle around anonymous coins.
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March 04, 2020, 10:27:48 AM
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How exactly does this decentralized OTC process work?

Surely it's not anonymous when there are bank transfers involved? Unless you've got some sort of way to also mix fiat funds before sending them out?

Is there a document I can read about how VDS' decentralized OTC works?
Bitcoin is converted into Vollar after Resonance Trade, this operation has already made your Bitcoin "clean". Then exchange Vollar into other fiat through group OTC function, use somebody else's bank cards if you'd like to get cash.
Here's a video about OTC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x35Hj27V5JQ
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March 06, 2020, 01:52:02 AM
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Coins of confidentiality will always be the objects of close attention of states and their governments, since by their nature states do not tolerate financial anonymity. It has always been known that someone who does not control finances does not have real power. Governments will always try to limit the circulation of coins in a high level of confidentiality. Craftsmen from the people will oppose this and decentralized cryptocurrency for the first time provides a good chance in this matter. We will witness a long struggle around anonymous coins.
A long way ahead of us and attempts will never stop. Just like building Rome:)
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March 10, 2020, 09:23:09 AM
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Firstly, i think the OP didnt understand that there are semi-centralized and totally centralized exchange site and the last time i checked  none of the anonymous coins are listed on centralized exchange site. With that been said, the reason why most of the anonymous coins experienced decline in price is because of the governments against anonymous coins and i dont see any reason now why previous Anonymous coins or tbe mentioned by the OP will be free from restrictions..

Note : Ignore the hype OP crypto investors are no longer stupid.

yes, it can be dangerous if misused, as well as tools or other objects.
while poisonous plants can be used as medicine if they are used and handled correctly.
so it would be great if it was according to the procedure they said.
Argument is correct if being used correctly it's okay to exist but knowing how eager the government wanted to get control about anything that exist from their jurisdictions especially when it talks about financial concern.
Anonymous coins can be used as mentioned but most of the investors and traders are treating this venue as source of incomes by dealing with day trading and they are very much willing to take the risk working with centralized exchange.
Privacy is a much-desired feature in the virtual world. Anonymous coins work better for those who prefer to keep their identities as well as their transactions concealed.
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March 17, 2020, 10:52:41 AM
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April 25, 2020, 05:24:15 PM
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I do not know why you have copied other content and paste it here. If you do that, then of course you have to give the writing credit. Copy-paste content does not allow on BitcoinTalk.org. This content is exactly what you submit: https://forum.bitcoin.com/alternative-cryptocurrencies-altcoins/real-anonymous-coins-are-free-from-restrictions-t127163.html

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May 03, 2020, 09:56:24 AM
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In this age, it's important to retain some degree of financial privacy because the online world is littered with companies with the intent to sell your personal data to advertisers and government agencies.

It can also be inconvenient to be personally tracked online, even if the site you are visiting is not taking any personal information, and you have opted in to not be tracked.

There are some choices you can make.

Disconnect from all online services that require personal information on both sides

If you've opted in, do not opt out.
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May 19, 2020, 08:22:51 AM
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I have heard a lot about VDS but haven't had the time to study more about it, and from reviews so far it looks like a good one. About anonymous coins, so far the crypto space is still existing there will always be anonymous coins because privacy matters a lot to many people. Also, because of the nature of privacy coins that's why most exchanges are delisting them, maybe because of regulation, however even with the delisting, there are still new exchanges listing them as well (a good example is Monero); thus confirming the fact that privacy coins have come to stay.

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May 19, 2020, 10:30:15 AM
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Monero is really not that anonymous, many other privacy coins failed too but I don't know anything about VDS, the only coin I'm waiting for now his GHOST (the first crypto coin from the government hater) John McAfee, Ghost privacy coin is coming on MAY 25, and if you are ESH Holder you will get free Ghost tokens 1:1

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