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February 25, 2020, 01:11:25 PM
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Vladimir Potanin one of the world billionaires and also in the list of richest Russian people Want to launch his own token.
Potanin already has the approval from their central bank to launch his own token, the token is going to be used by his clients to buy metals, air tickets, and transfer ski passes from his businesses.
I think Potanin actually acknowledge cryptocurrency having a smooth transaction from his clients and eliminating the paperwork and middlemen, also having a speed up transactions.

ATOMYZE CRYPTO TOKENS ,

“The main idea of tokenization is not in buying or trading cryptocurrencies; it lies in the creation of a modern and transparent mechanism for digitizing of assets, and in the creation of new digital markets, where tokenization is a service helping issuers transfer rights to their assets into a digital form.” explained Atomyze CEO, Marco Grossi.



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https://www.atomyze.com/atomyze-launches-industrial-asset-tokenization-platform/

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February 25, 2020, 04:11:00 PM
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So what I understand, that the richest man of Russia is creating a payment platform on blockchain for his own clients, so that his clients can purchase Potanin's products without the need of an intermediary like Bank! Well that anyone can do.

If you have ever worked in an office, you may find some similarity with the Cafeteria coupons. These coupons are useless in the real world, but can be used in the office Cafeteria. What Potanin is building, is the digital form of such coupons for his institutional clients! All good!

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February 25, 2020, 05:25:01 PM
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Oh what a good news, another oligarch is creating own money to earn real money. What is the use case? Nothing. Another useless token good for raising a lot of money in a wave of hype, nothing else.
Please, think about it, does it make a sense that someone is creating a token? No! Decentralization is the main factor why all of us are here.

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February 25, 2020, 05:45:32 PM
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Thanks for sharing, Great Article, Last year I heard some celebrities launching their own currency, One of them is Manny Pacquiao I don't have any update on this project but it is quite silenced I don't know if it is canceled or not. I hope this one will be more active and really useful to the public.
Launching a coin without a real use case will result in a failure. But not at all times, there are some joke coins that gain success like DOGE. It seems this man is making more money that's a wise move if they will succeed and this coin use cases seem to be okay.
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What is the need for a billionaire to launch their own token? What is their project? Why they need money to be raised through crypto tokens? In my understanding, token economy is here for the people who are working for a project without enough funds for crowdfunding reasons.

It must be a complete controversy that a billionaire is launching their own token. I guess people will fall into this too by believing that billionaire will keep on pumping so that they can get more ROI. Anything without proper reasons definitely will fall at any time but when it is something backed by a billionaire then it will may take some more time before falling down.

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February 25, 2020, 07:45:57 PM
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Nice, who would be thinking like rich people like him will see the use of cryptocurrency for his own business? There's an idea about accepting cryptocurrency and he's very open to it.
If all the rich businessmen are just like him, there will be a good flow for cryptocurrencies in the business sector all over the world. Those that are questioning the use case of crypto, this is one of it.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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February 25, 2020, 07:56:01 PM
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Nice, who would be thinking like rich people like him will see the use of cryptocurrency for his own business? There's an idea about accepting cryptocurrency and he's very open to it.
If all the rich businessmen are just like him, there will be a good flow for cryptocurrencies in the business sector all over the world. Those that are questioning the use case of crypto, this is one of it.

He is just using the benefits of crypto in his businesses. and I think that's very reasonable for him to create his own token. if he will be successful in implementing crypto in his business, I guess more and more will follow. and by the way, he is not the first, as boxing legend pacquiao has already launched his own token. as they say, this can also be used to purchase goods or items from his online shop. so aside from keeping themselves relevant to what is happening today in this digital age, they are now discovering that crypto has benefits on their respective businesses.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/boxing-legend-manny-pacquiaos-pac-token-set-for-ieo-on-nov-12
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February 25, 2020, 08:10:56 PM
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Not really newsworthy at all.

It just appears that Potenin is producing a type of credits system that many websites already use, e.g. like gamestop points or one of the huge variety of reward points different platforms offer.

The only difference is he is issuing these tokens on a blockchain, which presumably means they can be traded, whereas most reward points cannot.

I doubt this will amount to anything substantial.
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Exactly, so I don't think we can all consider this as adoption or something. Just (rich) people trying to ride the popularity of crypto to make more money. And we have to remember how Russia is very contradictory as far as crypto goes, so it's going to be interesting as what is going to happened with this all tokenised thingy with this Russian billionaire.

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February 25, 2020, 08:12:58 PM
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Nice, who would be thinking like rich people like him will see the use of cryptocurrency for his own business? There's an idea about accepting cryptocurrency and he's very open to it.
If all the rich businessmen are just like him, there will be a good flow for cryptocurrencies in the business sector all over the world. Those that are questioning the use case of crypto, this is one of it.

He is just using the benefits of crypto in his businesses. and I think that's very reasonable for him to create his own token. if he will be successful in implementing crypto in his business, I guess more and more will follow. and by the way, he is not the first, as boxing legend pacquiao has already launched his own token. as they say, this can also be used to purchase goods or items from his online shop. so aside from keeping themselves relevant to what is happening today in this digital age, they are now discovering that crypto has benefits on their respective businesses.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/boxing-legend-manny-pacquiaos-pac-token-set-for-ieo-on-nov-12

In any case it is a big help for the crypto community, aside from that, base from the wha he said that he will have less paperworks if he uses crypto, just how many papers, trees would be saved if they stop using papers and just go with blockchain.
Let's see on the good side here, and not just the ones of their personal interest.
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February 25, 2020, 08:24:09 PM
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Potanin already has the approval from their central bank to launch his own token, the token is going to be used by his clients to buy metals, air tickets, and transfer ski passes from his businesses.
I think Potanin actually acknowledge cryptocurrency having a smooth transaction from his clients and eliminating the paperwork and middlemen, also having a speed up transactions.
Nice! The fact that their central bank allowed him to do such thing and the fact that he is one of the most well known image/influencer there, it already speaks a lot Cheesy. It means that it will have a greater chance of becoming a successful project in the future, the only problem they just to fill up is on how they will effectively advertise and persuade their fellow countrymen to use such coin.
“The main idea of tokenization is not in buying or trading cryptocurrencies; it lies in the creation of a modern and transparent mechanism for digitizing of assets, and in the creation of new digital markets, where tokenization is a service helping issuers transfer rights to their assets into a digital form.”
Hmm, that sounds fine. It doesn't sounds greedy hahaha. Good luck, I'll look forward on this for sure Smiley.
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Even if he is real person and this token project is real i will welcome his project with both my arms open because any crypto project coming from a real famous person or brand is going to increase the mass confidence in crypto and overall crypto market will boom.

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February 25, 2020, 09:39:30 PM
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Nice, who would be thinking like rich people like him will see the use of cryptocurrency for his own business? There's an idea about accepting cryptocurrency and he's very open to it.
If all the rich businessmen are just like him, there will be a good flow for cryptocurrencies in the business sector all over the world. Those that are questioning the use case of crypto, this is one of it.

He is just using the benefits of crypto in his businesses. and I think that's very reasonable for him to create his own token. if he will be successful in implementing crypto in his business, I guess more and more will follow. and by the way, he is not the first, as boxing legend pacquiao has already launched his own token. as they say, this can also be used to purchase goods or items from his online shop. so aside from keeping themselves relevant to what is happening today in this digital age, they are now discovering that crypto has benefits on their respective businesses.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/boxing-legend-manny-pacquiaos-pac-token-set-for-ieo-on-nov-12
That's should be the purpose of crypto and he's doing it. Although, it's not for bitcoin but good thing is that he's making the right use of it. I've heard about the PAC token and actually there's a misunderstanding about it before because there's already a PAC that already exists, the first PAC.
But there's no more confusion now because it's being named and known thanks to Gcox who have done the marketing.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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February 25, 2020, 09:44:55 PM
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If he did not get permission from Comrade Putin, he can at most dream about such a token and not too loudly, because he will stay for a long vacation in a room without a door handle.
Mikhail Khodorkovsky has already shown what money means in Russia if Putin doesn't like something.
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February 25, 2020, 09:53:05 PM
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So what I understand, that the richest man of Russia is creating a payment platform on blockchain for his own clients, so that his clients can purchase Potanin's products without the need of an intermediary like Bank! Well that anyone can do.

If you have ever worked in an office, you may find some similarity with the Cafeteria coupons. These coupons are useless in the real world, but can be used in the office Cafeteria. What Potanin is building, is the digital form of such coupons for his institutional clients! All good!
Well, anyone could create its own token on whatever purpose it would be as long you are capable and do know how to handle it and as said this wont really differ in likes of coupons which this one cant really be
used in real life.

As a rich man, i dont see a reason for me to focus nor be concerned on making more money out of those tokens but as long it do benefit out my business and making it more accessible and less hassle
then i would surely consider it anytime.

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Even if he is real person and this token project is real i will welcome his project with both my arms open because any crypto project coming from a real famous person or brand is going to increase the mass confidence in crypto and overall crypto market will boom.

LOL, if you think that this will bring people to crypto then you're wrong. I do hope you understand that Vladimir Potanin is doing it for himself alone, to create more money for him. So how do people get themselves involved in crypto just because some rich hotshot Russian will have his own token? Nada.

So if you buy his token, you are just making this guy even richer by the minute. So it's better to invest on Bitcoin or even in the top ten coins if you wanted to make your own money here. In that little ways of ours, average joe's like you and me, it might uplift the market again.

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Vladimir Potanin one of the world billionaires and also in the list of richest Russian people Want to launch his own token.
Potanin already has the approval from their central bank to launch his own token, the token is going to be used by his clients to buy metals, air tickets, and transfer ski passes from his businesses.
I think Potanin actually acknowledge cryptocurrency having a smooth transaction from his clients and eliminating the paperwork and middlemen, also having a speed up transactions.

He is credible enough to launch his own token, he is well known and he has assets that can back up his project and he will not scam people because he is going to lose his reputation and he has a good roadmap, I prefer backing or supporting this project than these unknown ICO developers.

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February 25, 2020, 11:51:42 PM
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So, this will be the token for real use cases? So far, the token utility is one of the challenges that can really have good significance to the price to survive and increase.
If this is for the transaction and it is real enough, I think this token really has a chance to grow up and gain more people to invest or trade. But, is this only specifically for his clients?
If he is a rich man, it means that he can really put the big funds in the projects and runs the projects better, should be. For, so far, many projects are failed because of the lack of funds. By his funds, he can list the token in the big exchange and gain more investors.

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February 26, 2020, 03:28:55 AM
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What is the need for a billionaire to launch their own token? What is their project? Why they need money to be raised through crypto tokens? In my understanding, token economy is here for the people who are working for a project without enough funds for crowdfunding reasons.

Popularity and asset can boost a project. They are using this an advantage to pull off some money cash. Yes he is rich already and logically those rich people tendency is to add money on their wealth so they see a potential to cryptocurrency to make it happened. I doubt that this token will be big anytime sooner.

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What makes it any different from the failed Libra project of Mark Zuckerberg? If he is serious about cryptocurrency, then he should invest in Bitcoin and help the community rather than creating his own token. We already have 10,000 plus cryptocurrencies and there is no need for a new one. Just like Zucker, the intention here is not to support cryptocurrency but to profit out of it.
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What is the need for a billionaire to launch their own token? What is their project? Why they need money to be raised through crypto tokens? In my understanding, token economy is here for the people who are working for a project without enough funds for crowdfunding reasons.

Popularity and asset can boost a project. They are using this an advantage to pull off some money cash. Yes he is rich already and logically those rich people tendency is to add money on their wealth so they see a potential to cryptocurrency to make it happened. I doubt that this token will be big anytime sooner.
It looks like he is the guy who has also made his own exchange site and it's currently in the testing phase. He was being the richest man caused by business and what he was looking for to take a part in the crypto as crypto is still having a very high potential for the new decade. Crypto is not yet globally adopted.

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February 26, 2020, 04:55:49 AM
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We can't blame the guy for coming into the game if developers who lack the funds can set up one why not him who has the products and the means to make his coin moving forward, I prefer this kind of developer than those developers who are asking investors for money because they don't have the means to set up their platform.

Well.. you have a point there. At least he is spending his own money in to this project and therefore we can assume that he will be serious about it. What happens with other projects is that the promoters never invest any of their money and all the funding comes from the investors. As a result, many of the team members are not that motivated or interested to make sure that the project succeeds. Even if the project fails, they lose nothing.
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Honestly I don't always like Russian blockchain projects, most are just piece of joke and others are scam, I'm more into Asian part projects like Japanese or Korea projects, they are well supported most times

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I tought that crypto is forbidden in russia
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I am not surprised because I have been expecting this kind of thing to start happening. A lot of them will start creating their own tokens lol, even celebrities are now doing the same and creating their own tokens. Once read about some celebrities that creates tokens that would be used by their fans to make purchase from their websites. Before you know what’s happening there will be lots of tokens everywhere.

Everyone would always want to create their own tokens because they are always looking for ways that they will benefit from cryptocurrency. Sometimes I think, what about these people leaving all these tokens that they are creating and start making use of Bitcoin? I think that would be better.

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Russian projects are always red flag, tell me a name of any Russian project that has good potential, cos I haven't seen any, this is just another project to earn more huge money, Bitcoin halving is coming and many garbage projects start showing up
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February 26, 2020, 09:11:11 AM
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So what I understand, that the richest man of Russia is creating a payment platform on blockchain for his own clients, so that his clients can purchase Potanin's products without the need of an intermediary like Bank! Well that anyone can do.

If you have ever worked in an office, you may find some similarity with the Cafeteria coupons. These coupons are useless in the real world, but can be used in the office Cafeteria. What Potanin is building, is the digital form of such coupons for his institutional clients! All good!


It’s a good idea to start developing the blockchain from your own place, I mean that a company or business introduces tokens that become possible after reaching a fairly large amount, then the public will see the results and start using it if their performance is good.
and not just like a pump and dump on exchange.

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Having money to fund a coin on getting listed on exchanges and advertisement to interested users is an advantage even if all the coin is with the CEO but the use case of the coin and convenience of use is also important. If coin users have no alternative for use (not fiat use) and can get on internet to solve the problem, such coin will always have volume of trade either it is available or stable coin.

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What makes it any different from the failed Libra project of Mark Zuckerberg? If he is serious about cryptocurrency, then he should invest in Bitcoin and help the community rather than creating his own token. We already have 10,000 plus cryptocurrencies and there is no need for a new one. Just like Zucker, the intention here is not to support cryptocurrency but to profit out of it.
I think you shouldn't judge that way, maybe he just uses blockchain technology to create his token for use in his own enterprise ecosystem, if he doesn't put that token on a Exchange it will not affect the cryptocurrency world.

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Bloomberg too have reported on this
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-25/potanin-forges-ahead-on-crypto-tokens-for-metals-and-air-tickets

And this token is probably the first one to get approval from the russian central bank. Russians are one of the most cryptoliterate population and they would soon lead the market.
There were also discussion about another Russian billionaire launching an ICO to fund a mega mining project.



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February 26, 2020, 03:47:06 PM
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People could do stuff like this more and more frequently because they are literally giving you nothing and getting all of your money but at the same time they are going to get a lot of trouble in the future when laws are set in place.

Telegram also got talked about millions of dollars and even possibly over a billion dollars, if they get that much money for free without anything but a token that is worthless and useless, with time when the laws are set in place they will be punished for it. That token will be out there forever and as long as it exists there you will end up having to deal with it forever as well. I hope few people/companies get punished for taking people's money and giving back nothing so that others will see that punishment and stay away from it.
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It's a lot of like coupon things Grin. there's already plenty of cryptocurrencies out there and a lot of is returning day by day. Why he must produce another one! why do not we tend to use what's already within the market? It's more like a business than a service. In most of the cryptocurrencies, they came to the market to solve any problem that peoples facing. What new problem he's attempting to resolve here.

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February 26, 2020, 04:20:26 PM
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I tought that crypto is forbidden in russia

I also thought that but Yobit is considered a Russian based exchanged and the forum Cryptotalk is very much a Russian forum they are the only one with local boards there, many Cryptocurrency projects emanate in Russia and this new soon to launch token by one of Russia's richest man I believe will have a backing of Russian authorities.

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February 26, 2020, 04:34:52 PM
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Its a great idea for his business and his clients. But how can other people not connected with his business benefit? I for one won't buy a token I have no use of. But I'll see how his project goes.
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February 27, 2020, 06:12:30 PM
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What makes it any different from the failed Libra project of Mark Zuckerberg? If he is serious about cryptocurrency, then he should invest in Bitcoin and help the community rather than creating his own token. We already have 10,000 plus cryptocurrencies and there is no need for a new one. Just like Zucker, the intention here is not to support cryptocurrency but to profit out of it.
I get your point, I think creating altcoins or cryptocurrency is no longer needed since there are already thousands of altcoins in the market also a big percentage of it was just a dead coin or token. Still, I think if the token has a certain use or a currency I think it could still work as long as it could gain demand from the community using the main uses of the token created still if there is no demand token will be pretty useless anyway.

Maybe launching his own token could still affect or influence a small percentage of the community Russia since he is one the billionaire in their country he is somehow famous for sure.




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February 27, 2020, 06:27:07 PM
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just to use for his products, this must be a stablecoin.

nothing benefits his project but him alone. in order for him to make it at least has fluctuation for investors to watch for, he has to make it useful for the public. the token he is about to create will have a use case that's for sure, its going to be more useful if all his partners will also be using it.  but could they just be using blockchaiall these to evade?









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February 27, 2020, 11:06:29 PM
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Its a great idea for his business and his clients. But how can other people not connected with his business benefit? I for one won't buy a token I have no use of. But I'll see how his project goes.

It is difficult to say why this coin is actually being created, because in Russia there are quite a lot of rich oligarchs who are quite capable of creating such kind of coins for their own businesses.
It is possible that some of them have already put their hands to this. However, whether such coins will be of any use to those around me, I doubt it.

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February 27, 2020, 11:10:18 PM
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To be honest, being rich, being wealthy or being a celebrity does not guarantee that a crypto currency token launched by them will survive.
Neither does it mean it would moon or be better than existing tokens.

When researching into a new token, it is good to trace its source definitely, but it is more important to find the value and the functionality of the existence of the token.
Will the token add value ?
Will the token drive demand ?

Being wealthy is not enough in this space, unless you want to buy back your tokens for yourself.
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pretty good steps taken by a billionaire who will launch his own token. quite a lot of crypto projects are from russian countries and are in the ranks of the top coin at the moment. but it would be nice if the billionaire wanted to get into the world of crypto, he would better collaborate with projects that are already running like waves or other projects rather than launching his own token. whatever decision I support the billionaire

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March 30, 2020, 09:53:30 PM
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I wonder why this is actually being created. Russia has a very high level of fraud among wealthy people and officials in particular.
The level of corruption just rolls over. I can assume that this coin will be used primarily for money laundering for institutional investors.
And if we are talking about money laundering, then we will definitely encounter drug trafficking.

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