Cryptotalk is racist

[shield132]

If anyone thinks cryptotalk is racist because of their choice, then what about Netflix, Spotify, some services and games on google play and etc that aren't available in some countries? Is this racist too? If anyone thinks yes, then idk what to say.

To make things even more clear, I have to ask: Why bitcointalk doesn't have each board for every country and why are some countries mixed together in Other languages/locations section?
Nor this, nor that action is racist. It wasn't just beneficial for them and decided to do what was needed and as suchmoon mentioned, it was just lazy behavior from them, easy deal.
And P.S. Google VPN in case you don't know what it is.

[nelson4lov]

How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing  or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.

KYC would even make matters worse for them. Cryptotalk was created to be an open community just like bitcointalk and spamming has been a thing with forums for as long as I can remember. The best way has always been to moderate posts made in posts. Asking for people's personal information different from registration details defies the purpose. Their forum is getting into deep mess. Because the spamming won't stop there. They'll end up banning my countries to limit the countries that can connect to their website.

For those who doesn't know, Cryptotalk has always been censored. You say foul things about cryptotalk, you get banned. You say ill of yobit like complaining about their unresponsive customer support, you still get banned. The people there are just posting in fear.

This is a racist move. I know they won't ban people from Russia because that's where their admin team is based. So much for the "Bitcointalk" killer.

[o_e_l_e_o]

KYC would even make matters worse for them.

I'm struggling to think of anyone I would trust less than YoBit with my KYC documents. Given just how scammy they are, I have zero faith in their security practices, and I have complete faith that my documents would be sold to 10 different people within a week. I'd prefer to open a credit card, write the PIN on the back of it, and hand it to a complete stranger.

For those who doesn't know, Cryptotalk has always been censored. You say foul things about cryptotalk, you get banned. You say ill of yobit like complaining about their unresponsive customer support, you still get banned.

Of course they do this. They are not interested in having a discussion forum, in building a community, in contributing to bitcoin or crypto as a whole, or any of the things this forum does. They are interested in one thing and one thing only - how to get their users to sign up to YoBit so they can steal their bitcoin.

Cryptotalk is dying. Now if only YoBit would do the same.

[suchmoon]

How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing  or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.

Even ignoring the sheer stupidity of requiring KYC to post on a forum, the result would still be more or less the same. Honest users (if such users exist on Cryptotalk) would go away or would get fucked by Yobit reselling their docs, and spammers would submit fake docs if it's worth it for them to continue spamming.

Their whole model of paying pennies for shitposts is doomed to fail.

[Indymoney]

How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing  or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.

Even ignoring the sheer stupidity of requiring KYC to post on a forum, the result would still be more or less the same. Honest users (if such users exist on Cryptotalk) would go away or would get fucked by Yobit reselling their docs, and spammers would submit fake docs if it's worth it for them to continue spamming.

Their whole model of paying pennies for shitposts is doomed to fail.

You are right its completely shit forum if some one able to check may be we have very few quality posts from 1 million posts because its just doing all this for traffic not quality or any thing. Mods completly fail to control this all shit so they ban few countries or may be this is trick from them for few days or blockcing payment for thousands of posts which was in pipeline for last few days and gone without payment because this ban can hurt them more then 50% peoples on this forum was from these countries Indonesia, Nigera, Pakistan, Egypt and Veitnam.

[coupable]

If anyone thinks cryptotalk is racist because of their choice, then what about Netflix, Spotify, some services and games on google play and etc that aren't available in some countries? Is this racist too? If anyone thinks yes, then idk what to say.

I don't think it's a the right comparison here. Netflix,Spotify,etc don't provide services for users from some countries because of legal conditions as they have to take governmental authorisations to run some services that are sometimes forbidden by law. When it's not the case with cryptotalk who is lazy/silly to moderate the spam caused by the forum policy itself and accepts to be called "racist".
I used to know Yobit as the most ignoring company who didn't ever care about building the good reputation, but what would they do with spammers from allowed countries.
It's a total shit forum, i am not surprised.

[dunfida]

If anyone thinks cryptotalk is racist because of their choice, then what about Netflix, Spotify, some services and games on google play and etc that aren't available in some countries? Is this racist too? If anyone thinks yes, then idk what to say.

I don't think it's a the right comparison here. Netflix,Spotify,etc don't provide services for users from some countries because of legal conditions as they have to take governmental authorisations to run some services that are sometimes forbidden by law. When it's not the case with cryptotalk who is lazy/silly to moderate the spam caused by the forum policy itself and accepts to be called "racist".
I used to know Yobit as the most ignoring company who didn't ever care about building the good reputation, but what would they do with spammers from allowed countries.
It's a total shit forum, i am not surprised.

A shitty forum trying to get rid of shitty members/spammers? 

Sooner or later i wont be surprised if their current per-post campaign would be stopped and in result, those fellas who do just hang out into that place for satoshis will flock away.
In result? It would be dead sooner or later.

[coupable]

Sooner or later i wont be surprised if their current per-post campaign would be stopped and in result, those fellas who do just hang out into that place for satoshis will flock away.
In result? It would be dead sooner or later.

Cruptotalk is not the only forum who pays users for posting. I was invited recently to moderate a local board in one of them but i left it because the admins think it's a good method to invite more users but ignore that the forum will dead once stop paying.
I can guess that cryptotalk is not about to fight spammers, but just reduce the amount to pay for users as the forum got a lot of traffic from bitcointalk and may has more users than we think.

[Stedsm]

Cruptotalk is not the only forum who pays users for posting. I was invited recently to moderate a local board in one of them but i left it because the admins think it's a good method to invite more users but ignore that the forum will dead once stop paying.
I can guess that cryptotalk is not about to fight spammers, but just reduce the amount to pay for users as the forum got a lot of traffic from bitcointalk and may has more users than we think.

To what I see, Yobit is exhausted now and not able to pay their users anymore. Trust me, this thought came to my mind just when I started thinking about their marketing strategy - they come, they spread spam, they leave. This time, they didn't get the chance here, they stopped the campaign here on this forum (or maybe they were exhausted as the funds would have been over, they already gave signals while not paying for around 2-3 weeks 2 times). They kept their cryptotalk campaign active in their forum to keep that place active, they wanted to stand as a competitor against Bitcointalk thinking that potential investors would buy ad spaces, start signature campaigns there and whatnot, but they entirely forgot the main thing and that's - SPAM. They didn't stop it but promoted it by paying for 30 posts and users took sheer advantage of the same, now when they are seeing that people are posting even shittiest of the comments to get paid that buck per post and while BTC's value has started to rise, they are probably looking to wind up their ongoing campaign on their forum too and end this once and for all for some more time. May be they won't come back again considering that BTC is poised to rise during this year and upcoming years.

[Saisher]

Judging from all the post here, Cryptotalk is trying to survive I think one thing that will contribute to its demise is not listening to their posters, posters have been trying to convince the admins and moderators to install a notification when member posts were deleted and adding more categories and local boards but its falls in deaf ears.

[coupable]

Judging from all the post here, Cryptotalk is trying to survive I think one thing that will contribute to its demise is not listening to their posters, posters have been trying to convince the admins and moderators to install a notification when member posts were deleted and adding more categories and local boards but its falls in deaf ears.

That's another dilemma .
Cryptotalk has no intention to improve itself by any meaning. All what they focus on is advertising the platform that will advertise (for) Yobit .
I joined it for a short time but found nothing special with a lot of lacks for a probable progress .

[aioc]

Judging from all the post here, Cryptotalk is trying to survive I think one thing that will contribute to its demise is not listening to their posters, posters have been trying to convince the admins and moderators to install a notification when member posts were deleted and adding more categories and local boards but its falls in deaf ears.

That's another dilemma .
Cryptotalk has no intention to improve itself by any meaning. All what they focus on is advertising the platform that will advertise (for) Yobit .
I joined it for a short time but found nothing special with a lot of lacks for a probable progress .

The moderators are incompetent, they keep deleting posts but not giving notification on what posts they are deleting so members can improve, when I was active I have 10 of my posts deleted and I never remember spamming the forum or posting shit, it's only a matter of time before this forum is over.

[badykvik]

I will agree with them if they give a reasonable excuse though i dont care about cryptotalk forum due to their messy forum software BUT this act of removing some country is better called an INJUSTICE rather than RACISM.
People that react to this thread should comment based on the sincerity of the issue at hand rather than feel that it does not affect them or their countries, cryptocurrency is a worldwide event and no country should be exempted.

[xSkylarx]

As for me, the best thing that they should do is just to ban spammers from those countries instead of generalizing and labeling them as low-quality posters. Deserving participants should still be given a chance. There are still great posters from those countries for sure that are worth paying. Anyway, that's their decision and we can't control it. Maybe they see that as a way to improve their site easily.

[milewilda]

As for me, the best thing that they should do is just to ban spammers from those countries instead of generalizing and labeling them as low-quality posters. Deserving participants should still be given a chance. There are still great posters from those countries for sure that are worth paying. Anyway, that's their decision and we can't control it. Maybe they see that as a way to improve their site easily.

Getting rid of spammers is really a step on improving one sites reputation but banning generally is somewhat do give out that negative impression.
It would be understandable if this one implied on gambling sites but not for a forum.They are just lazy to clean up the mess thats why they do go
into such decision which isnt really that right.

[Findingnemo]

I did mention that people can easily bypass this restriction on other cryptotalk thread, all they are doing because they are slowly falling apart?

Now everyone from those countries need to make 100 posts to get paid for their posting.

Better avoid and let them deal with ghosts.

[Saisher]

I did mention that people can easily bypass this restriction on other cryptotalk thread, all they are doing because they are slowly falling apart?

Now everyone from those countries need to make 100 posts to get paid for their posting.

Better avoid and let them deal with ghosts.

I have an account here but not login anymore I have this feeling that they will add more countries and ban more people, they want very good posters but they do not want to add more categories and local boards and they are not also locking old threads so new people coming in will post the same answer.

[Rodeo02]

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How they will find it quality if the topic is always answered the same ways as others.
 the MoD there will have many works since there are many user's registered because of the payment they need to watch and reviews post activity of evey user's so it will not be abuse.

And banning a country is not a good idea if you just want to clean the forum.

[judeafante]

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How they will find it quality if the topic is always answered the same ways as others.
 the MoD there will have many works since there are many user's registered because of the payment they need to watch and reviews post activity of evey user's so it will not be abuse.

And banning a country is not a good idea if you just want to clean the forum.

The big question now is? can they keep up, can they really stop spamming there because these ban accounts can easily create another account using VPN and same spammers will spam the forum, they should add more moderators and limit the number of people signing up, last time I checked the site there's always a new sign up almost every minute.

[alani123]

India or Indonesia?

It's not racist, it's just lazy. Instead of moderating the forum they took the easy route and decided to ban certain countries. Spammers will use VPNs and will continue to spam.

It's lazy but also racist.

Like really, last I checked they were paying 1000 sats, or around 8.5 USD cents at the moment. Max comments per day were 100... In the US 8.8 USD or (100 paid comments) are close to the minimum wage. Even if someone completes so many comments it's only natural that they get the content from not so developed nations. I do agree with OP that they're racist to call those people spammers. If they're treading behavior individually then it wouldn't be racist but they rather ban an entire country. In the process they also harm people that were investing time in ranking up their accounts so they can get paid...

Even 2$ can be survival cash for a day for these people. Instead of giving them an opportunity to see if at least SOME are good, they just ban the entire country's IP range? Cruel. Of course more messages were going to come from these nations. There it makes more sense do do such activity... Probably though they also don't want to deal with so many people. There's already enough supply for their needs from other parts of the world.