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This is not the first time that I saw one member having this kind of method, I reported it last month but I can't remember the user name, but thanks to LoyceV, we have proof that some members are using this trick. It might be the user has many accounts and due to time constraints that he/she might not get the needed post count for his bounty at the end of the week, he simply put "reserve" in a hurry and then obviously come back to edit and put his supposedly thoughts about the discussion. So for those spam hunters, might be difficult to find this new technique, unless you archived it first then report it to mods. 
And then comeback to edit his post a bit later, to look like he did make it within the day.  I was surprised to see that today, ETH broke $200 price barrier, and a lot of altcoins in the top 10 are also making a good run, is this the bullish signal that we all have been waiting for the altcoin market?  Source: Binance I didn't expect 200 USD from Ethereum blockchain. This blockchain deserve more value this situation and I will surprise when hit 600-700 USD in this year. Ethereum did another step forward to beacon chain by last day some news. In CMC Ethereum dominance is 10 percent what was before below 8 percent.
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February 26, 2020, 12:31:10 AM |
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Usually the note "reserve" has been applied to some bounty like translation or even signature campaign. But posting reserve in such discussion isnt appropriate.
Regards to this OP, the case might be like that since he is wearing signature. What if someone do that and he doesnt have any signature and likely to composed well his thought (more like rehearsing or proof reading first his post) first. Would that can also consider as spam or something negative in lie with forum rules?
Good thing about forum now is edited mode can be seen. But archiving is necessary in order to caught this new tricks. Early bird catches the worm.
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February 26, 2020, 12:43:56 AM |
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Interesting. Good catch. Perhaps there could be some kind of daily editing limit put on newb accounts. I can't see any legitimate non-spamming noob needing to edit more than one or two posts a day. This might also help restrict deceptive edits in sales threads etc.
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February 26, 2020, 01:56:58 AM |
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Usually the note "reserve" has been applied to some bounty like translation or even signature campaign. But posting reserve in such discussion isnt appropriate.
Regards to this OP, the case might be like that since he is wearing signature. What if someone do that and he doesnt have any signature and likely to composed well his thought (more like rehearsing or proof reading first his post) first. Would that can also consider as spam or something negative in lie with forum rules?
Good thing about forum now is edited mode can be seen. But archiving is necessary in order to caught this new tricks. Early bird catches the worm.
On the contrary, if you are not wearing any signature then you have all the time to compose a quality reply and says your thoughts that time and then go back edit it. Or if you have signature then you can write quality post as well, and then go back later to edit if some additional thoughts you want to add to the discussions. I've seen many members doing this. That member has nothing to proof read, LOL, I would understand if he says "I will put my thoughts later", but he didn't, he just says reserve. You also have to look at the time stamp, 11:35 PM, obviously I look at it as he is trying to make the number of post on his bounty for that day or week. @TECSHARE - I don't know if there could be some daily editing restrictions or if Theymos would approved of that. But let's see. |
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February 26, 2020, 03:18:18 AM |
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The last time he edited his post was about 15 minutes after when he created his post. This should rule out running up his post count to the daily maximum and coming back after the deadline to make a days worth of posts to edit them to have more substance.
I believe there are a number of people who are looking at and analyzing posts in mass, using a script to automatically grab and look at every post written. It really isn’t any secret this is happening. My guess is this person wants to make it more difficult for people to grab and analyze his posts.
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February 26, 2020, 03:19:15 AM |
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On the contrary, if you are not wearing any signature then you have all the time to compose a quality reply and says your thoughts that time and then go back edit it. Or if you have signature then you can write quality post as well, and then go back later to edit if some additional thoughts you want to add to the discussions. I've seen many members doing this.
I agree with you, when no signatures are used then we have plenty of time to think about ideas and thoughts about what we will write and share with the comunities. Adding ideas and thoughts after posting might be considered normal and also does not depend on the purpose and the board where the post is located. Using the signature of a campaign, the user must complete the tasks given by the manager if the user wants to be paid. Users who have many alt accounts are very likely that they will not have much time to stay in the forum to read and make quality posts so they choose to back up their posts and edit them to be sent back. Its not good, but thats the truth and when forums dont prohibit users from having more than 1 account they cant use their minds properly. If the users actions violate the rules then I want to know what punishment is right for him? |
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February 26, 2020, 03:25:27 AM |
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If that matters, 'oscarftw' has shady past, did not repay loan, and he's not earned a single merit, all 250 merits of his are airdropped. Screams spammer and scammer. |
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February 26, 2020, 06:29:19 AM |
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Using the signature of a campaign, the user must complete the tasks given by the manager if the user wants to be paid. Users who have many alt accounts are very likely that they will not have much time to stay in the forum to read and make quality posts...
No user is ever compulsorily enrolled into a signature campaign, it is a personal and individualistic decision that one makes on their own, having checked how frequently they post and of it will work in tandem with the rules of the campaign. Signature campaign should not be something to hold on to not to write posts in the right order and sensibly, as well fulfilling what is also required as a participant in any campaign. If it's 15, 20, 25 etc posts required, isn't it more logical to apply for the one that wouldn't be any encumbrance to you and make you falter in terms of "making sense''. Now those who are enrolled in multiple campaigns at once, you must then be able to write as good as lord Alfred Tennyson to make sense on all of your alts, believing you just must have something else to do in real life. |
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February 26, 2020, 10:58:44 AM |
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32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.
That posting technique breaks this unofficial rule. As far as I understood, reserved post is allowed for thread starter only. With a little bit allowable expansion, it is allowed for applicants in campaigns when they reserve their applications first, and then edit with details (merit counts or bitcoin addresses). Reserved posts in on-going discussion is a bit shame because such posts break discussions and even if posters come back to edit it later. Their edited posts potentially off-topic because issues of thread starters or other participants in those threads already solved by a few posts below edited posts. |
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February 26, 2020, 11:08:32 AM |
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So for those spam hunters, might be difficult to find this new technique, unless you archived it first then report it to mods.
I think it is best to either report to the campaign manager if he does this repeatedly or to report to the mods because the "reserve" posts lead to low-quality discussions. In short: The matter must be dealt with "on a case by case basis", and thus more restriction legislation is a waste of time for something that may not happen. If you see this way, report it. |
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February 26, 2020, 11:14:40 AM |
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Such technique can be used if you want to have your text (or signature!) on that page.
I think that there was a campaign (signature or bounty) which was paying only the posts from the first page of a thread/topic.
But from what I see it's not the case - it's something on the .. 9th page. So it's some sort of spam that doesn't make sense to me.
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February 26, 2020, 07:00:30 PM |
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A lot of those posts are in bounty threads that are sometimes first come, first serve, so creating a “reserved” post may not be totally unexpected. The case referenced in the OP is more unusual because there is less of a reason to need to get in a post ASAP.
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February 27, 2020, 08:17:33 AM |
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I've noticed a similar thing occurring recently - this is a conversation I had in another thread, it's pretty self explanatory: One thing that puzzles me are the ones who write: Will remove in 24 hours But in 24 hours don't and also don't provide any wallet address / information to join a campaign. Very strange. Are they just bumping their post count, or, something else? That happens when somebody writes "join" post in a hurry, without reading rules. And then realizes they actually don't want to join. You can't delete your post before 24 hours passes in some parts of the forum and they edit the post and leave message like that. As I mention in this exchange, these posts simply aren't being deleted. It'd be interesting if the number of times could be scraped and possibly matched with the other text uses to see if there are any similar uses? |
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March 22, 2020, 09:58:33 PM |
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Another user, KimmyF, archive here. |
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^ Looks like KimmyF didn't actually reserve the spot like the previous user you caught. Original unedited post: For which purpose someone strongly believe that Bitcoin could hit 3k again when going down coronavirus cases and few months left for halving time. After Edit: For which purpose someone strongly believe that Bitcoin could hit 3k again when going down coronavirus cases and few months left for halving time. Now what should we do sell our Bitcoin to scammers and wait for price up. That's not right 3k correction time is over now time for 5k-6k correction. Though his reply doesn't make much sense to me, I don't think this is a big issue. I too have made posts and then edited mostly within 5 mins when I find a better way to express my thoughts after I posted, I see this more of a language constraint issue. Nothing more.
Edit: Did a recheck, looks like KimmyF is also using 'reserve' to post later. http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5407/54078816.html |
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^ Looks like KimmyF didn't actually reserve the spot like the previous user you caught. Original unedited post: For which purpose someone strongly believe that Bitcoin could hit 3k again when going down coronavirus cases and few months left for halving time. After Edit: For which purpose someone strongly believe that Bitcoin could hit 3k again when going down coronavirus cases and few months left for halving time. Now what should we do sell our Bitcoin to scammers and wait for price up. That's not right 3k correction time is over now time for 5k-6k correction. If you check it better, you will see that it is the same situation as in the first post. He posted "reserved" on 22nd, and edited it hours later, on 23rd. If he didn't do that he would miss his weekly quota of 10 posts , for Swapzilla signature campaign. As stated before, he probably has bunch of accounts, and when he doesn't have enough time he uses this little trick to meet the weekly quota  . |
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March 23, 2020, 11:16:51 AM |
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I think reserve is good and accepted. It just depends on how you use it, for purposes and intensity of your reserve posts.
If one user does it from time to time, from week to week. Yes, it is unacceptable because of his shady purposes to meet post quota (mostly is that purpose).
If one user does many reserved posts in a single day or a very few minutes, it is not acceptable.
If one user does it for only one time, when he or she has something to type but suddenly a kind of interuption (from children, or anything else), a reserve post is acceptable.
A final conclusion for each user requires an investigation, and not solely depends on one or two reserved posts.
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March 23, 2020, 05:46:30 PM |
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^ Looks like KimmyF didn't actually reserve the spot like the previous user you caught. Original unedited post: For which purpose someone strongly believe that Bitcoin could hit 3k again when going down coronavirus cases and few months left for halving time. After Edit: For which purpose someone strongly believe that Bitcoin could hit 3k again when going down coronavirus cases and few months left for halving time. Now what should we do sell our Bitcoin to scammers and wait for price up. That's not right 3k correction time is over now time for 5k-6k correction. If you check it better, you will see that it is the same situation as in the first post. He posted "reserved" on 22nd, and edited it hours later, on 23rd. If he didn't do that he would miss his weekly quota of 10 posts , for Swapzilla signature campaign. As stated before, he probably has bunch of accounts, and when he doesn't have enough time he uses this little trick to meet the weekly quota . So that would mean that the BM doesn't actually check the posts? |
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March 26, 2020, 03:08:19 PM |
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Thanks god I found this thread, he was join my campaign before, of course this will difficult to find any reserve post from participants, with this report i can disqualify them from my campaign. No matter he just doing one time, he was cheated already.
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