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April 07, 2020, 06:04:19 PM
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There should be a climb in BTC price after the halving so, there should be profitability in the S19s.


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April 07, 2020, 08:16:32 PM
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s19 pro is at 2920 from a reliable reseller  ships may 20

s17  is at 1054   ships now from same seller

106 th  for 2108  and a 40 day head start which is really a 70 day head start due to ½ ing

110 th for  2920  

It will be longer then a year for the s19 pro to catch the s17 53th model

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April 08, 2020, 02:26:37 AM
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s19 pro is at 2920 from a reliable reseller  ships may 20

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April 10, 2020, 02:57:56 AM
Last edit: April 11, 2020, 03:33:30 AM by frodocooper
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There should be a climb in BTC price after the halving so, there should be profitability in the S19s.

There is no mathematically or scientifically proven fact that bitcoin will climb after the halving, and nobody should enter the mining business with the assumption that bitcoin price will increase after the halving, if you can't survive a 50% drop in rewards without any price increase, or even worse a price drop then you shouldn't be mining.

If someone is 100% sure that price is going to the moon, they should simply buy the coin and hold it, it costs nothing to hold, easier to sell, no work is required, no risk of gears failure, house on fire and etc.

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April 10, 2020, 12:27:39 PM
Last edit: April 11, 2020, 03:33:52 AM by frodocooper
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There is no mathematically or scientifically proven fact that bitcoin will climb after the halving, and nobody should enter the mining business with the assumption that bitcoin price will increase after the halving, if you can't survive a 50% drop in rewards without any price increase, or even worse a price drop then you shouldn't be mining.

If someone is 100% sure that price is going to the moon, they should simply buy the coin and hold it, it costs nothing to hold, easier to sell, no work is required, no risk of gears failure, house on fire and etc.

Shortly after this post we dropped from 7200 to 6900. Grin

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April 14, 2020, 10:46:35 AM
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s19 pro is at 2920 from a reliable reseller  ships may 20

s17  is at 1054   ships now from same seller

106 th  for 2108  and a 40 day head start which is really a 70 day head start due to ½ ing

110 th for  2920  

It will be longer then a year for the s19 pro to catch the s17 53th model

Definitely seems like a hard sell at the moment. I’m usually all for ordering new hardware right away but this seems like a pretty clear case of waiting being the better option.

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April 14, 2020, 04:27:12 PM
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Just a little update for you guys...

Bitmain is still not shipping internationally (not sure if this stands for every country, but for Serbia, I haven't been able to order since beginning March if I remember correctly).

S19 and S19 Pro are still "Coming Soon" and have TBD prices which is not really good news...

HOWEVER, T17+ and S17+ prices have been lowered while shipping times remained same (21-30 April).

Prices without shipping are as following:
T17+: $762 (Previous price: $952)
S17+: $1320 (Previous price: $1636)
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April 14, 2020, 05:13:51 PM
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there was a miner a few weeks ago for $904 - was that the regular T17 or was it the T17+?

though at that current price for the T17+ and that it is shipping next week and is below the tariff limit is appealing to me.

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April 14, 2020, 05:57:05 PM
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there was a miner a few weeks ago for $904 - was that the regular T17 or was it the T17+?

though at that current price for the T17+ and that it is shipping next week and is below the tariff limit is appealing to me.

That was
the t17+  it dropped from 904 to 762
the s17+  it dropped from 1630 to 1320

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April 14, 2020, 06:50:04 PM
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with shipping that 762 still comes out over $900 so they might still charge a tariff - depending on how they look at the value.

I am tempted to buy one just to see - if nothing else, it will replace the T17 40 th unit that I am raffling away

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That was
the t17+  it dropped from 904 to 762
the s17+  it dropped from 1630 to 1320

If we wait a little longer I imagine we might see a few more price drops. Some state side vendors, their prices are dropping too (possible old stock). Take a look at BlockForge as an example, but that tariff is unattractive. Shocked
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blockforge always charges the tarriff.

sometimes bitmain does sometimes bitmain does not.

note 📝 not 100% sure the blockforge always charges the tarriff.

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I thought the tariff was simple - over $800 charge - under $800 dont charge... I would think the only grey area would be if shipping is included in that calculation or just the price of the item. I have not read the tariff to know if it clarifies it or not. but it would be nice if it was very clear.



well bitmain finally put the prices up $2633 for the S19 pro and $1964 for the regular s19 - add in shipping and tariff and its around $3500 for pro and $2700 for regular.

Shipping in June.

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I might be interested in another S17+ at that price.....  but is anything actually shipping out of China with this virus stuff?

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well bitmain finally put the prices up $2633 for the S19 pro and $1964 for the regular s19 - add in shipping and tariff and its around $3500 for pro and $2700 for regular.

Shipping in June.

Does anyone know what the points will be good for.  I have 43 points my guys in Clifton have 70 points Buysolar has 38 points.

It would be nice to know if they have any value.

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where do you see points? Nvm I see them - says I have zero.

Says its based on orders after 10/29/19 - My last order was 10/13/2019 - so that is why I have zero.

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I might be interested in another S17+ at that price.....  but is anything actually shipping out of China with this virus stuff?

By the time it arrives, no virus would ever survive.

This is a quote from one finding:

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They found that it was still detectable on copper for up to four hours, on cardboard for up to 24 hours, and on plastic and steel for up to 72 hours.

And we all know Bitmain products are not shipped and delivered in 72h...

Does anyone know what the points will be good for.  I have 43 points my guys in Clifton have 70 points Buysolar has 38 points.

It would be nice to know if they have any value.

Still no info sadly.
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If you fear virus 🦠 do what i do now.

have ups/dhl drop it at my garage door.
bring it in
spray box leave it sit for 3 days.

walk out of garage wash my hands.

go back to package in three days.

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well the pros are sold out already.

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well the pros are sold out already.

Which would mean that there is not a lot of countries that have disabled orders (like Serbia).
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