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February 29, 2020, 12:15:25 PM
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The only positive thing about this is that it could help Global Mods with identifying who to ban or temp ban.
If anyone is struggling to hit 300 good reports so they can start seeing their stats, you would only need to look at the signature campaign's spreadsheet and each user's most recent posts to rack up dozens of good reports in minutes.

It is bad enough the signature spammers who are posting in topics they don't understand with some vague two line nonsensical rewording of the topic title. Asking them to start threads from scratch is only going to result in complete trash, plagiarism, or links to articles/blogs. This would be an unmitigated spam fest, and I would hope that if it is was tried theymos would step in and ban the entire campaign as he has done before.

It's going to be fun though: if OP creates spam, the whole thread including all replies can be trashed at once.
What a beautiful thing that would be. Dozens of signature spammers missing their quota with a single report.
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February 29, 2020, 12:20:13 PM
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What I mean is, can you have a sig campaign that asks participants to create threads instead of just posts on threads?

Logically, you can. Ethically, you should not.
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February 29, 2020, 02:42:41 PM
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The only positive thing about this is that it could help Global Mods with identifying who to ban or temp ban.
If anyone is struggling to hit 300 good reports so they can start seeing their stats, you would only need to look at the signature campaign's spreadsheet and each user's most recent posts to rack up dozens of good reports in minutes.

It is bad enough the signature spammers who are posting in topics they don't understand with some vague two line nonsensical rewording of the topic title. Asking them to start threads from scratch is only going to result in complete trash, plagiarism, or links to articles/blogs. This would be an unmitigated spam fest, and I would hope that if it is was tried theymos would step in and ban the entire campaign as he has done before.

Exactly. They'd become an even bigger annoyance than they are now increasing the likelihood of having their accounts banned.

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February 29, 2020, 05:58:56 PM
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LOL.. it's pretty obvious mate !! Just think about it.. creating topics everyday were aint normal people.. It will just lead to a massive shit topics and it would be the end of the forum if the mods let that kind of idea implement.

I just can't imagine that .. maybe even you were not normal too LOL just remember a thread is what something important to be discuss and it should not have duplicates.. Have you ever read the forum rules its always pinned by mods in every section.. just take time to read LOL
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February 29, 2020, 09:04:37 PM
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This will actually be the beginning of spam just like the yobit signature campaign. If we all decide to create topics, there will be no one left to comment under them.
It's logical, just like advising 80 out of 100 people to go into Taxi business, who would be the passengers.
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February 29, 2020, 09:33:16 PM
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like if a reputed campaign with good posters have this rule, I wouldn't mind at all.
The "problem" with good topics: they're usually long. That means the signature is less visible than under a short post. So who's going to pay for that?
It would be interesting though, if the campaign requires the topic to earn merit from 12+ different users to qualify for payment.

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March 02, 2020, 08:41:38 PM
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And there it is:
- Minimum 5 OP posts (Meaning threads created) every week.

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March 02, 2020, 08:48:12 PM
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Asks if he can do it, is universally told it is a bad idea and will only lead to spam, ignores all the advice and does it anyway. Roll Eyes
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March 02, 2020, 08:50:57 PM
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It seems that OP was serious and really interested to know how the community would feel before launching their campaign:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229933.0
Participants are requested to start at least 5 threads per week.
Ok am fine with that as long as they are willing to accept only 16 members (16*5=80 threads/week).
What I find disturbing is asking to have 5 posts on first pages and 10 posts up to the 3rd page.

Again, I appreciate that OP asked for community oppinion but after reading the sig campaign requirement it seems he is unwillingly encouraging spam.


After re-reading all of the replies above, it seems he is willingly encouraging spam.

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Asks if he can do it, is universally told it is a bad idea and will only lead to spam, ignores all the advice and does it anyway. Roll Eyes

Those sig campaign rules are awesome!

Min. number of created threads, min. number of posts on first page min number of posts on first three pages... lol

Curious how many shitposters will be able to follow the rules anyway - maybe thats the business idea behind? Everybody will "break" the rules and they wont have to pay?  Cheesy

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- You Must Wear the appropriate Signature.
- Minimum 5 OP posts (Meaning threads created) every week.
- Minimum of 5 constructive posts on the first page of a thread.
- Minimum of 10 more constructive posts up to the third page of a thread.
- Your posts must be 125 characters long. Spam and post bursting is not allowed.
- Only 7 posts per day are counted.
- Post in Off-Topic, Archival, Mining (Altcoins), beginners and help, Politics & Society, and posts in any bounty and signature campaign threads will not count.
- You are not allowed to use other Signature/Avatar of other campaigns during this campaign's period.
- Alt accounts are not allowed.

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March 03, 2020, 04:16:32 AM
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Curious how many shitposters will be able to follow the rules anyway - maybe thats the business idea behind? Everybody will "break" the rules and they wont have to pay?  Cheesy
I don't think the shitposter will be chosen, so no problem here. More importantly, can the selected people achieve their requirements? As discussed above, creating at least 5 threads is a bad perspective that can create junk topics.  Roll Eyes

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March 03, 2020, 04:17:13 AM
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Curious how many shitposters will be able to follow the rules anyway - maybe thats the business idea behind? Everybody will "break" the rules and they wont have to pay?  Cheesy
Second that. Just noticed now OP has launched signature campaign with terrible rules which will encourage spam definently. I think most of users who have replied here do not support such as terrible rules. But it seems OP doesn't respect community opinion. So all participants posts supposed to be monitor if they create spam topic in order to get payment.

However, rather than force create topic manager should choose who are creating new topics regularly. Suddenly ask someone to create new topic who are not familiar with would cause mega spam.

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However, rather than force create topic manager should choose who are creating new topics regularly. Suddenly ask someone to create new topic who are not familiar with would cause mega spam.
Cheesy Cheesy It seems like every opinion thinks that this rule should not be done, but in the end, he ignores everyone's opinion and implements it for himself. A terrible spam campaign is about to be created, every day, we will see dozens of nonsense new topics  Sad Sad

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March 03, 2020, 04:35:07 AM
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It's going to be fun though: if OP creates spam, the whole thread including all replies can be trashed at once.

Which would annoy the heck out of me as I sometimes spend an hour creating a post with lots of content and photos.

So rather then post to a trash able thread 🧵 I would skip it completely or do a lesser post.

I often do not do a truly all out solid post on a topic in mining ⛏ as I know that the thread is iffy or gray.

meaning i could be deleted along with  the whole thread.

It fact I wrote a longer more well thought out post here in meta spent maybe ten to fifteen minutes doing it only to find topic vanished.

This really gets annoying .

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March 03, 2020, 04:58:31 AM
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I seen those 5 OP posts a week, I think its completely delusional and very hard to do if even possible.

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March 03, 2020, 05:06:18 AM
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What I mean is, can you have a sig campaign that asks participants to create threads instead of just posts on threads?
Spam will happen if this will be implemented or will be approved by the mods. Signature campaign is a unique way to market your project in the forum but if you like to have a lot of threads that talks about your project then blog/youtube campaign is the best answer to it and not a signature campaign. There are different types of marketing so it will be best if you will just adjust your marketing plans especially if the one that you are thinking is against the forum rules.

As I am pretty sure that the moderators will not allow this kind of campaign even in the future as it will surely create a lot of spam threads and a spam post from the participants.

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What I mean is, can you have a sig campaign that asks participants to create threads instead of just posts on threads?
Spam will happen if this will be implemented or will be approved by the mods. Signature campaign is a unique way to market your project in the forum but if you like to have a lot of threads that talks about your project then blog/youtube campaign is the best answer to it and not a signature campaign. There are different types of marketing so it will be best if you will just adjust your marketing plans especially if the one that you are thinking is against the forum rules.

As I am pretty sure that the moderators will not allow this kind of campaign even in the future as it will surely create a lot of spam threads and a spam post from the participants.
I dont think they need to make a lot of thread  the task is only to make your own original post, and they never ask for what would be the topic inside.
It will create a lot of spam since its required and thats the problem, and the payment is lower than normal campaign we have here. Its better for him to bid in auction forum ads than having that campaign. (Its possible but not a good idea)
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March 03, 2020, 10:31:16 AM
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20 threads per month. Approximately $10 for Sr Members and $40 for Legendary/Hero so more Legendary and Hero members will be attracted. It looks like a trap to me.

This is basically an incentive for members to spam the forum. Imagine only 20 users join the campaign. That is 400 threads per month REQUIRED, or 100 per week. Where the hell will this thing go towards except more shitposting than we've ever seen before...
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March 03, 2020, 01:41:17 PM
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I've seen so many complains about this campaign both on the thread and here and to me, it's seem BM doesn't give any concern about it or doesn't even know the weight of what he/she is pulling.
They are never going to increase the allocation also because the amount in the escrow address won't fit. It's better they adjust the rules so they won't end up tagged for accepting spammers into their campaign.
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March 03, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
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I think there is no reason to worry too much, as far as I can see the campaign is looking for a total of 16 members which is a totally insignificant number when compared to what had the largest spam campaign with over 600 members producing thousands of spam posts per day.

For a good poster, it's no problem to open 5 threads every week - but given the pay rates, such will not apply to the campaign. For anyone who is afraid of spam, report it to moderators, and I personally think this campaign will last for a very short time.

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