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March 01, 2020, 06:49:40 PM
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The question sounds annoying, asking how to earn merit is not something to post about, all you have to do is keep posting something good and helpful then you will be given merit, you don't have to ask for it

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March 01, 2020, 06:55:25 PM
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<…> I'm just a little curious about this issue, what if these people know each other, they often give each other merit? How to prevent abuse. It is like asking for merit  Roll Eyes
The conceptual principal is to be as objective as possible when awarding merits. That is, if you have real friends here, but their posts are not really any good, then they should not be merited. Of course everyone’s objectivity has at least a spice of subjectivity, meaning that one may be more prone to some groups of people than others, or at least to some types of posts than others. It’s kind of human nature, but the objectivity principal should try to prevail.

Merit abuse is really more down the line of meriting each other for the sake of giving each other’s accounts merits. Now the forum has seen plenty of cases where one (allegedly) merits his alt accounts (which is considered unethical). That sets a precedent, and there are people that look for connections between accounts, being merits a possible strain of feasible proof. Of course, other may get caught in the crossfire due to these precedents, so the more prudent scenario is to always try to be as objective as possible.

One thing to consider is that merits are not moderated, but they are traced. Historically, some cases of very blatant abuse have been undone by @theymos, but the more usual derivative is that of getting sender and receiver potentially tagged (Trust tag, with negative review and rating). This is an on and off thing, and not everyone agrees to this use of the Trust System , but it does happen with more recurrence than one may think.
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March 02, 2020, 06:59:46 AM
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Hard is the life of the newbie...
If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?
If we want signatures shall we not get it?  Grin

Basically, what the answers here tell us - if you want merits, post quality posts, and forget about merit.
Great!
Like telling hungry people - forget about the bread.
Homeless - forget about the money.
Lonely - forget about the sex.
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But I do get your point.

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March 02, 2020, 07:27:50 AM
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Why the hell you need to worry about your merit? You have only 14 activity and already 3 merit,just handful of people are able to achieve it, so just continue what you are doing. I just quick check the your post history and I can tell you, you have some potential.

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March 02, 2020, 09:24:30 AM
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I think the best way to earn merit is to translate guides, tips and to your local board (with acceptance of its author). Or guides related to cryptocurrency from the internet (with link to original). Or make your own guide. This will be useful for yourself as a self education and to community.

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March 02, 2020, 10:43:48 AM
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You are right with prioritizing gaining knowledge because you will also need it to gain merit. Having knowledge can help you start your own informative topics here in the forum.

Earning merit takes time and you don't have to push yourself earning merits. It will come if you truly deserve it. But what I did before, I tried giving quality posts and I also tried starting my own thread like some crypto-related news to give updates to other members here in the forum.

Since you are new to this, you can start from your local board there because it's easier to give your best when you're interacting with your fellow citizens. But my advice is just, you have to give your best, effort, and work on being helpful to the community. You can do it!
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March 02, 2020, 05:06:42 PM
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I know that this is not the thing that I should mind first because I am still a beginner, I should prioritize first on gaining knowledge here, as what I commonly read in many other posts, but I think asking is also a form of learning, so I don't see bad things by asking some question like this, which is really need to know of the beginners, based on what I have read on some posts, merit is significant for us to increase our ranks, is this really true?

This forum is an excellent thing about gaining knowledge and earning money, so I want to have these two, so please can you help me with this question, Thank you in advance.
In terms of merit, it is quite hard to earn lots of it nowadays. Even those who post the most reliable and informative things here in the forum finds it hard to earn merits cause there are only few giving it. Based on what I heard, there are some specific area in the forum the giveaway merits and it is for you to find out already if you really want to rank up. Even though it is hard, always make sure still that all of your posts in this forum are related on the topic and at the same time, others will get new information from it, who knows maybe someone will notice it and give you merit.

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March 02, 2020, 05:45:03 PM
Last edit: March 02, 2020, 06:49:34 PM by DdmrDdmr
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Just a few quick comments on what you commented:

- Numerically, the overall number of different sMerit Senders (profiles) per month has been more or less stable since the end of 2018, and is somewhere in the 1100-1400 range roughly.

- The overall number of different sMerit Receivers (profiles) per month has been more or less stable since the end of 2018, and is somewhere in the 2000-2200 range roughly.

Since those numbers are more or less stable, I’m going to assume that the forum is Ok with them. That makes earning merit not a piece of cake, but not impossible either by far. It is not though easy-peasy, and it does require some persistence in posting content that is decent enough (which entails time, likely often on a larger scale than one is prepared to commit).

See: https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/MeritSendersReceivers?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

On the topic of giveaway merits, conceptually they do not exist. There are though some threads where people may post links to some of their prior post in order to see if the OPs of those threads want to merit any of the linked posts. These are not giveaways in the sense that, ultimately, it will depend upon the OPs criteria what to merit and what to leave empty handed (as well as to the amount of sMerits he's willing to use on the thread). It's an on/off sort of thing, and I don't think there are that many of the kind currently active.
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April 06, 2020, 02:03:14 AM
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Well that is right mate, asking is one ways of learning and nothing's wrong with that, merit is so essential in this forum, you will get one if you are really participating well with some discussions here, if you are creating useful and helpful posts for everyone here.

Creating quality posts is the only way I know to gain merit because if someone appreciates your posts then he or she might give you one. So just keep creating good posts even though you are not gaining merit for now, do not feel bad that is part of being a beginner.
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April 06, 2020, 07:01:49 AM
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To increase your merit point first of all you need to know, What is merit and what is the requirement of a merit?
You can learn more here Merit & new rank requirements

Now you can learn about, How to earn a merit?
1. TMAN'S guide to getting merit.
2. Ways of earning merit.---Post by Gladyr.
3. Ways of earning merit.---Post by Rengga Jati

And last of all you can apply for a merit in the below thread
1. 💥 [Merit Giveaway] - Post useful threads and earn merit 💥
2. Sendable merit give away contest (Full Member and below ranks)

Good luck.
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April 06, 2020, 10:00:21 AM
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Welcome because you have just found the right place to get information about bitcoin and of course it's free without having to pay for it.

In early 2018, Theymos introduced us to an merit system that aims to fight spammers, shit posts and also prevent them from going up in rank. Even though merit is not moderated but if you cannot post something of high quality then you might not get it and you will remain in the same rank for a long time until you can improve your skills when posting.

But lately, I have seen many beginners like you even find it very easy to get merit from other users even though it was in their first post on the forum. I'm not saying this is a mistake, but here are the facts. Anyone will have the opportunity to get merit without exception if other users want it, especially now there are some people who deliberately compete to send merit to a beginner, even for one or two simple questions. There is no discrimination against beginners to get merit, it's just that you need to make a little effort to get it.

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April 06, 2020, 10:11:49 AM
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I think the best way to earn merit is to translate guides, tips and to your local board (with acceptance of its author). Or guides related to cryptocurrency from the internet (with link to original). Or make your own guide. This will be useful for yourself as a self education and to community.
This is will help, but if I see in some post who make a translation's thread the translator just translates literally. Even, some of them didn't understand what is loaded from the original thread so as if someone ask some question the translator just ignore it. I agree if this way will help some people to understand especially for those who have a bit knowledge against english, but it will be better if the translator has been overcome the intention form the original thread.
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April 06, 2020, 11:40:25 AM
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But lately, I have seen many beginners like you even find it very easy to get merit from other users even though it was in their first post on the forum.
You know, merit is not meant for junk posts or spammers. If someone is able to make a quality post, then merit is an award for him and ranking is not an obstacle to receive it.
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I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
~snip

I'm not saying this is a mistake, but here are the facts. Anyone will have the opportunity to get merit without exception if other users want it
Right, this is what DdmrDdmr calls the principle of sending merit objectively according to my understanding. Because merit is not moderated, anyone can send it (if sMerit balance is available) on every post on the forum. Its just that you have to choose which posts you have to send and of course quality posts. This is not a rule but has been agreed by everyone here, and in the end you have to use sMerit on posts that deserve it.

especially now there are some people who deliberately compete to send merit to a beginner, even for one or two simple questions.
There is nothing wrong with this, if a beginner can post quality things. It must be normal to send merit.

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April 06, 2020, 06:12:42 PM
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To get a lot of merits you just need to double your efforts on the start I do not have enough capability to gain merits too but having double my effort to give good feedback, giving a good quality post and other supporting statements that help other users I gained merits, also merits are only given to the people who really excel an effort to the topic or the thread. Just always focus to have a good and helpful content the merit will come. Sometimes when you are good at having a topic you didn't expect you will receive a lot of merits as your feedback.

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April 06, 2020, 09:01:43 PM
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That is how it (often) goes. Nevertheless, one of the non-written rules is not to ask/beg for merit. It’s actually rather counterproductive to do so (or at least you need to be a bit more subtle about it).
I'm just a little curious about this issue, what if these people know each other, they often give each other merit? How to prevent abuse. It is like asking for merit  Roll Eyes
Hmm, maybe if you give your friend a merit, given that he really deserve it (by making quality/helpful post), then there's no problem at all. Making it twice or thrice? I think that's still okay. However, if you repeat the act over and over again like a mutualism relationship then it's wrong already.

How to prevent? It's up to you whether you abuse it or not. You can freely commit but make sure you are ready to face the consequences huh Wink. So do not attempt to do it at all or else your accounts will get in trouble. Even how hard you try to alibi, both of you are abusers in the eyes of veterans here especially if you are just a mediocre poster.
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There's no need to be hasty for us like newbies here to have merits, however it is a step by step process that we should have to learn the basics here in this forum. After learning some basics, we need to post a usefull thread or a tutorial post for newbies in order to receive merits.

To received merit or not, the essence of posting a good thread may give some usefull information to newbies and somehow you'd helped others.
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There's no need to be hasty for us like newbies here to have merits, however it is a step by step process that we should have to learn the basics here in this forum.
You dont need to relax with habits that keep you in the same position for years. Although to get knowledge we must start gradually, but if it is not based on intention and willingness then you will never get what you want to achieve.

Maintaining habits that make you unable to get up and cant expose your potential will only make it more difficult for you to reach your targets. To become a user who has a contribution here you only need to improve the quality of posts that are not considered low quality posts and even  shit post.

Suggestions for you, start to post useful and quality things for other users from now on. You only need to change your habits that only post common sense, because that will not lead you to achieve something that you are targeting. Do you know what i mean?


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excuse me. i want to ask about smerit. how long smerit will be expired? thank you
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April 07, 2020, 04:20:25 AM
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excuse me. i want to ask about smerit. how long smerit will be expired? thank you
Click on the merit button (right corner of any post you see), you will be directed to a new page with the following message.
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You have received a total of 542 merit. This is what determines your forum rank. You typically cannot lose this merit. You have 60 sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.
Above is mine, yours is different in figures but as you see (in red), the forum (admin) reserves the right to decay unused smerit in the future. But for now, there is no implementation of such smerit decay.
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April 08, 2020, 10:44:42 PM
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Instead of merit think how much you have learned and what more you can learn from this forum and of course post some good posts without copy and paste from anywhere and last but not the least try to put your efforts to gain some knowledge. Wish you all the best for your future.

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