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i think someday crypto really can change fiat fully, like rightnow in pandemic the virtual payment on e-wallet really help people to do some trancaction
Now there is a non-cash payment method for goods and services, so nothing new in this can bring to the economy cryptocurrency. Governments of various countries are now on the way to creating a national digital currency, which will replace Fiat. No, they will not replace fiat. Just because some governments are creating their cryptocurrencies that doesn't mean they have the intention to replace national currencies. Besides cryptocurrency are not in the stage they could support economies and financial systems. No regulation, no stability, fluctuations, volatility I suppose these are no characteristics that you would want from the currency you depend on. So, cryptocurrencies and fiat money will function together and with time cryptocurrencies will develope and progress more but they will not replace fiat. It seems to me that you are confusing a decentralized cryptocurrency with a national digital currency) The national digital currency will not be subject to volatility and will be fully centralized. And this is the main goal for any government - control over its citizens.
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May 09, 2020, 10:47:32 AM |
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It seems to me that you are confusing a decentralized cryptocurrency with a national digital currency) The national digital currency will not be subject to volatility and will be fully centralized. And this is the main goal for any government - control over its citizens.
That's right and compared to bitcoin or cryptocurrency, our fiat or national digital currency is more useful in terms of payment for the fact that it's faster and regulated at the same time, however, if people think of holding their fiat, then they should think wisely as we know how the government are handling our financial system, the economy is struggling and fiat's inflation will increase.
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Goverments will never allow it, they want to control money. Maybe we will see digital fiat but not a btc as resserve currency
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High volatility is a good reason, but let's say that all three coins you mentioned settle at some point? Is that a possibility? Crypto is definitely less vulnerable than fiat! Scalability is a bit of a problem, but that will be solved eventually. Some coins can scale more, some less, but it's going forward! Anonymity suits many people, I think people deserve right to choose to be anonymous or not, but I can't say the same for public services, they should be open for everyone and transparent! In the end I would like decentralized economy, we don't need bosses (governments and banks) to tell us what we can and what we can't do all the time! Just because there are idiots and morons who take advantage of the system should all of us be punished!? I think good people should be free to live and enjoy the life in the way they would like that to do! And I don't see that happening in current system where money(fiat) is controlled by group of people! I think this quote is on place: ...
Exactly. Right now, crypto has far more benefits than Fiat itself. Its current issues will be solved over time as development and innovation grows in the Blockchain space. With stablecoins, volatility is no longer an issue. Anyone can quickly trade from a volatile crypto to a stablecoin without the need to interact with a bank or real Fiat whatsover. As far as scalability goes, we already have second layer solutions like the Lightning Network and Raiden Network, sidechains, a higher block size capacity, and more. People can still send/receive money faster and cheaper than they would with wire transfers, etc. You can even interact with crypto anonymously via the use of privacy coins, decentralized exchanges or even non-custodial mixers. That's not entirely possible with Fiat as it's subject to control and manipulation by central banks. Everything you do on Fiat can be easily monitored, while banks charge you high fees for their own gain. Not to mention, a wire transfer could take days to settle. Despite all of the benefits crypto provides over Fiat, it'll never replace Fiat because of its decentralized design. Fiat is and will always be backed by the government, which gives it a certain level of legitimacy within the mainstream world. People tend to trust it more than crypto because of this. When it comes to mainstream commerce, Fiat is the true winner. For each use case, will be the type of currency to use in daily life. I think we should make use of both crypto and Fiat for our own financial benefit instead of using one over the other. Just my thoughts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I have seen so many posts about emerging cryptocurrency, and they think that someday it will take over our current system, or it will replace our fiat currency, which is really impossible, yes cryptocurrency is such an excellent currency especially the bitcoin, cryptocurrency keeps on being more prominent and more significant. Still, I think it is not enough to replace the fiat currency. It will be hard for the government to do that.
It will be hard for us if we use our cryptocurrency as our standard currency, the volatile currency will not be useful in real life; only that money is only suitable in real life. Not all individuals are really used in technology, so how could they handle their money if they are not familiar with the technology.
There are still some rural places in this world, so it will be hard for them to adopt the new system if this will be implemented in the future, which I hope won't happen, and even those person in provinces will also get mad if those things happen.
What you talking about, FIAT has already been replaced, it's just a matter of time and architecture of dynamics. LOON are already putting the world on the NET...
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Cryptocurrency is made-up to be an different find of payment that's scarce and decentralize, while the from way back financial system gets to keeping pace and manipulative.But if individuals gets to fed up with it, we force think about it immense migration of users from fiat to cryptocurrency, uniquely once countries are frustrating to found their concede cryptocurrency we power distinguish a colossal adoption in the future.
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What you talking about, FIAT has already been replaced, it's just a matter of time and architecture of dynamics.
I still don't see it happening, well, I respect your opinion but there's a certain part of the world which are still not covered with internet, therefore online transaction is impossible for them, and with fiat, it was the government who are managing it, it maybe not transparent and they can abuse it but they will also not allow for it to be replace by something they will loss control of. That's my opinion too.
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May 19, 2020, 11:18:33 PM |
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I have seen so many posts about emerging cryptocurrency, and they think that someday it will take over our current system, or it will replace our fiat currency, which is really impossible, yes cryptocurrency is such an excellent currency especially the bitcoin, cryptocurrency keeps on being more prominent and more significant. Still, I think it is not enough to replace the fiat currency. It will be hard for the government to do that.
It will be hard for us if we use our cryptocurrency as our standard currency, the volatile currency will not be useful in real life; only that money is only suitable in real life. Not all individuals are really used in technology, so how could they handle their money if they are not familiar with the technology.
There are still some rural places in this world, so it will be hard for them to adopt the new system if this will be implemented in the future, which I hope won't happen, and even those person in provinces will also get mad if those things happen.
What you talking about, FIAT has already been replaced, it's just a matter of time and architecture of dynamics. LOON are already putting the world on the NET... Of course, I apologize, but in what places did cryptocurrencies replace fiat? I don’t see, there are especially many places where you could pay with cryptocurrencies without converting them into fiat currencies, either directly, using exchangers, or other methods.
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May 20, 2020, 10:56:50 AM |
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Of course, I apologize, but in what places did cryptocurrencies replace fiat? I don’t see, there are especially many places where you could pay with cryptocurrencies without converting them into fiat currencies, either directly, using exchangers, or other methods.
There's no play, though in the most develop cities where they have a good internet connection and digital currencies are widely used, they can't still beat the volume of money going in and out which are fiat, therefore let us not think that crypto will replace fiat because it's tantamount to saying that decentralize system will replace the centralized system, not gonna happen.
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Maybe cryptocurrency can't replace fiat currency but in a utopic future where money will be only digital or "coined" and cash will represent what originally the bitcoin was made for. Economy and the banking systems had to implement crypto in their asset, but if they'll do it, certainly it will not be agreed by the native users of bitcoin; Anonymus and Instant peer- to -peer transactions are the fundamental basis of cryptocurrencies. My personal opinion is if bitcoin will be globally implemented as an investment asset or used to normale transaction, it will be his death. First of all, (1) if bitcoin users or who owns bitcoin wants it to speculate over its price, I don't care that a global coin can receive more value than what nowadays already is, of sure the demand, will increase by the users but hyperinflation take his price down again. (2) If the point(1) is accepted: Why should bitcoin users maintain their assets in their portfolio if the price will fall? Before responding to this question ( money has the function to speculative, reserve, precautional). Obviously who owns bitcoin will sell all assets to return to the fiat currencies, which has globally implemented and zero cost of a transaction, and meanwhile the bitcoin will raise the fiat currencies will be the standard. (3) In the end, bitcoin will increase until its implemented ( achieved the higher valuation of all time as a "spike", someone forecast 100x and 1000x) by the way, investor and users will sell all or not at all their asset cause the high volatility of the price. The future of crypto is to remain crypto also if in long term transaction fees will decrease. But I think that as in the economic circle, the new system takes the old system down and the transistor will be updated by quantum-transistor, anyway will happen to bitcoin if we believe it has to be the future.
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May 20, 2020, 08:27:12 PM |
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Goverments will never allow it, they want to control money. Maybe we will see digital fiat but not a btc as resserve currency
Governments dont allow anything they are allowed by us, they represent the people and are of the people. Iam aware theres military dictatorship and communism, fascism and all sorts but ultimately an economy is by agreement of the people. Even in the USSR people operated pricing outside the government system, because that is the market that will always exist between people for the value they place based on time and personal need. I believe in that case it was cigarettes and dollars which were most often used instead of the official Ruble. If BTC is to become reserve currency it'll be because society benefits most from it being in that position, we cant really force it only enable it by Bitcoin generally the most useful product. I imagine the boring truth is we go back to gold as a block of metal kept as an asset but lent out via loan, promise or agreement which is effectively a reserve asset or currency. BTC itself should be useful in in its secure transaction, gold is a ton of hassle to be shifting around. Between banks they must melt down the gold and recast the bars when gold is transferred, this is to certify its good asset value so mostly that is not done and the gold stays in NYC or London and is merely changed on a balance sheet.
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There's no play, though in the most develop cities where they have a good internet connection and digital currencies are widely used, they can't still beat the volume of money going in and out which are fiat, therefore let us not think that crypto will replace fiat because it's tantamount to saying that decentralize system will replace the centralized system, not gonna happen.
Agree. Crypto will never replace Fiat because of the way it’s designed. The lack of a central authority makes crypto entirely different from traditional Fiat as we know it. Governments will continue to patronize Fiat above anything else, as they want to remain in control over people's money. The fact that Fiat is backed by the government, gives people some certain level of "confidence" that the type of money they're using is completely legitimate. That's not the case with crypto though. While crypto brings many benefits over Fiat, it'll always be one step behind it. The biggest issue of decentralized cryptocurrencies is price volatility. Serious merchants and businesses alike would prefer to deal with Fiat directly because of its stable price on the market. Even those who accept crypto, don't use it directly as they would with Fiat. Crypto is instantly converted to Fiat when a customer makes a purchase in order to maximize the merchant's profits as much as possible. Nonetheless, I believe that both crypto and Fiat will live alongside each other for many years to come. Governments cannot prevent crypto from being used in the mainstream world, whereas crypto advocates can't prevent the use of Fiat. The decentralized and centralized world will be separate from one another, giving people the option to choose which economy they want to support. Depending on a person's needs, will be the type of currency to use for mainstream transactions. Just my opinion ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I agree with you that I think it will provide an alternative method Because using crypto they will never feel comfortable using Fiat With crypto decentralization everyone can invest as they wish There is no role for the government here. However, in the case of Fiat the government manages. At present if the government of each country supports crypto, then the alternative method will come out Many will not support it Working in crypto requires more or less both The government will never be able to control the crypto-like Fiat.
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May 21, 2020, 04:58:45 PM |
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Maybe cryptocurrency can't replace fiat currency but in a utopic future where money will be only digital or "coined" and cash will represent what originally the bitcoin was made for. Economy and the banking systems had to implement crypto in their asset, but if they'll do it, certainly it will not be agreed by the native users of bitcoin; Anonymus and Instant peer- to -peer transactions are the fundamental basis of cryptocurrencies. My personal opinion is if bitcoin will be globally implemented as an investment asset or used to normale transaction, it will be his death. First of all, (1) if bitcoin users or who owns bitcoin wants it to speculate over its price, I don't care that a global coin can receive more value than what nowadays already is, of sure the demand, will increase by the users but hyperinflation take his price down again. (2) If the point(1) is accepted: Why should bitcoin users maintain their assets in their portfolio if the price will fall? Before responding to this question ( money has the function to speculative, reserve, precautional). Obviously who owns bitcoin will sell all assets to return to the fiat currencies, which has globally implemented and zero cost of a transaction, and meanwhile the bitcoin will raise the fiat currencies will be the standard. (3) In the end, bitcoin will increase until its implemented ( achieved the higher valuation of all time as a "spike", someone forecast 100x and 1000x) by the way, investor and users will sell all or not at all their asset cause the high volatility of the price. The future of crypto is to remain crypto also if in long term transaction fees will decrease. But I think that as in the economic circle, the new system takes the old system down and the transistor will be updated by quantum-transistor, anyway will happen to bitcoin if we believe it has to be the future.
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In the future money is going to be only digital. Now with Coronavirus we are more encouraged to use contactless payments and all is happening with credit cards and virtually. But due to volatility cryptocurrencies are not going to be widely accepted. Only if cryptos are going to have a stable value of some stables coins are going to be used will save the day.
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bitcoin has become a part of the monetary system that co-exists with other asset classes. Arguing whether one will replace another is simply waste of time.
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bitcoin has become a part of the monetary system that co-exists with other asset classes. Arguing whether one will replace another is simply waste of time.
debates that waste time but are important... trivial matters need to be discussed so that we can prepare ourselves when that time comes. I am sure fiat currency will change to digital or cryptocurrency, indirectly it was deliberately replaced because it is easier to control and supervise digital currency or cryptocurrency.
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Goverments will never allow it, they want to control money. Maybe we will see digital fiat but not a btc as resserve currency
The government is trying but they can't so if they cannot beat it join it, government are now creating a digital currency on their own, China will soon launch one soon and after that many countries will follow China's lead, we cannot ignore if the most powerful country in the world is creating and becoming a model of it.
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Goverments will never allow it, they want to control money. Maybe we will see digital fiat but not a btc as resserve currency
The government is trying but they can't so if they cannot beat it join it, government are now creating a digital currency on their own, China will soon launch one soon and after that many countries will follow China's lead, we cannot ignore if the most powerful country in the world is creating and becoming a model of it. Look my country's (venezuela) Petro, it's an absolute fucking joke, supposedly pegged to oil price but not only does it no go down with it, it's price has been arbitrarily raised twice. Then they hard fork it in secret and pretend like nothing even happened. As far as I'm concerned, is cryptocurrency has a government or a company running it, it should not be taken seriously.
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May 22, 2020, 05:25:27 PM |
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Goverments will never allow it, they want to control money. Maybe we will see digital fiat but not a btc as resserve currency
The government is trying but they can't so if they cannot beat it join it, government are now creating a digital currency on their own, China will soon launch one soon and after that many countries will follow China's lead, we cannot ignore if the most powerful country in the world is creating and becoming a model of it. I think that cryptocurrency users no longer need to worry about the fact that the government is fundamentally determined to destroy cryptocurrency. So far, there is no problem that cryptocurrency exist in parallel with fiat money. at least in my country, the government is proposing the adoption of certain laws to create farms, with the appropriate equipment on the basis of nuclear power plants, to mine cryptocurrencies, while using that electricity that is in excess. Of course there is an option that the state will create a monopoly on the extraction of crypto currency, But this can only be in totalitarian countries. In addition, if the business is already interested in using cryptocurrency, then I am sure that no government will want to harm the business, that is, its economy.
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May 22, 2020, 07:05:04 PM |
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Goverments will never allow it, they want to control money. Maybe we will see digital fiat but not a btc as resserve currency
The government is trying but they can't so if they cannot beat it join it, government are now creating a digital currency on their own, China will soon launch one soon and after that many countries will follow China's lead, we cannot ignore if the most powerful country in the world is creating and becoming a model of it. Well, they won't just let something develop without being controlled. however, I also suspect that they will make their own crypto instead of letting foreign companies control the economy. other than that, this only applies to cryptos that have stable prices. for those who have high fluctuation, I don't think that will happen.
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