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Have you known that there is an age restriction in gambling? But it is varied among the countries in the world. I have just checked in wikipedia that commonly someone can play gambling starting from the age of 15/16/18/19/20/21 years. It depends on where he lives, every country may have different regulation related to the age restriction. Below I classify some countries based on the age restriction: Age 5: Malawi (Casino) Age 15: Iceland (lottery) Age 16: United Kingdom (Football pool, Scratchcards), Estonia (other), New Zealand (instant kiwi) Age 18: Australia, Kiribati, Nauru, New Zealand (horse racing), Palau, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Vanuatu, Albania, Austria, Belarus, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Faroe Islands, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, etc Age 19: South Korea, Canada, USA Age 20: New Zealand (Casino), Sweden (Casino), Japan, Nigeria Age 21: Belgium, Estonia (Casino), Armenia, India, Lebanon, Macau, Malaysia, Philippines (casino), Singapore, Taiwan, Vietnam, Cote d'Ivoire, Egypt, Namibia, Niger (casino), Bahamas, Saint Kitts and Nevis, US Virgin Islands (casino), USA, Macau Age 23: Greece Source & more detail information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_age#cite_note-27is this serious?that Malawi is allowing their Children to Play in Casino as in?does the child has their own money to spend for? the 15-16 from Iceland and UK is tolerable because as i remember i learn gambling at that age but 5?seems very unreasonable to allow to play in CASINO. In cryptocurrency people won't know your age so there is no restriction when it vomes to gambling. In cryptocurrency you have to gamble your coins in able to grow. But then gambling is a win or lose situation. You may gain mote if you gamble more of your coins and gain less if you gamble less of your money. Not everyday is a lucky day gambling depends on your lack. If you gamble more and win then you have got more. But if you lose you will loss less. But of you gamble less and win you can also gain less. Regardless of more or less income bitcoin is very helpful in any ways.
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But they can install the games on their computer or mobile phones so that makes them can play the games. I have already seen that young people addicted to games, and some of them are too busy to play those games. I think many games that can be a gambling game for the kids without we know because we don't have much time to take care of our children. I hope that our kids can understand how dangerous gambling games, and we can give attention to them while they are playing any games they like.
True. I have a niece who got addicted to using mobile phones most of the time cause both of his parents were often at work. I was really surprised. The kid was searching stuff he didn't even know about, even installing games that he didn't understand. Note that the kid is still not that skilled in reading, and wow I am surprised at how his hands can even manage to find those games. Not to mention the youtube videos he is actually finding. Ngl, YT is a bad influence. He often watches streamers that curse out loud, often leading to him actually copying it which is kind of sad. I won't blame the kid nor the parents tbh, a phone has that kind of option naturally anyway. I just hope YT has some way to actually censor it lmao. I'm still relatively surprised by the age of 5 restriction though. I mean, the age restriction totally loses its purpose with that. Mobile games are gambling that's unregulated and directed towards children. I would not be surprised at all to see countries to begin to regulate how they operate because their target audience are young kids and use loot box mechanisms on free to play games in order to lure in their buyers. It's predatory but slips under the radar because the mobile gaming industry isn't as big as other industries. There were people that protested loot boxes and microtransactions in triple A title games where grown ass men have the decision purchase microtransactions but don't utter a word about mobile games. It's not gambling, mobile games that requires money on loot boxes, battle pass or any in-game items are called P2W games or Pay-to-win games. Gambling is just a win or lose situation, if you spent money on those type of games, you will still get enough items that can be used on the game, nothing to lose and there's no huge risk. So mobile games' in-game items aren't similar to the gambling concept, I always pay in-game items to make my account/profile cooler and advance more than free-to-play people. The loot boxes still consist of items that can be used and all of those are being played in the idea of probability.
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April 17, 2020, 09:09:23 PM |
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Unless, it is not the kid that is gambling but someone at a right age that doesn't wanna get tracked down right? Well, the point is, the age restriction system will not really work here unless they implement KYC system with real time verification. Because merely, an ID's could still be used to steal identity to a person if they really want to gamble with a restricted age. I actually didn't think about it before. Thanks for sharing a different point of view. Also, agreed that KYC implementation make users more 'vulnerable' to data leaks but in general KYC is needed for projects that aim to be legal and fair. But what keeps a kid from faking his ID making it look like he's old enough? I saw many KYC procedures that asks that a user uploads he's ID front and back side and that's it. What is keeping a kid to "photoshop" his ID to show he was born in 2000. and not in 2010.? I am not the expert but KYC people probably can detect a fake photoshopped id from the real scan unless it is done professionally. Would they care enough to go after you? I have doubts. From my experience, they usually let anyone play on the casino until the players starts winning big and only then, KYC team starts taking its job seriously. Till then, nobody cares.
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April 17, 2020, 09:14:00 PM |
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I think that these issues are related to legal issues of legal capacity. If the state sets the age at which a person becomes fully capable, then there is no need to set some other level for gambling. Although I know that lootboxes are very controversially evaluated in different countries. In some places they are considered gambling, but not in other countries. And this question is very important for minors.
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April 17, 2020, 10:09:30 PM |
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Unless, it is not the kid that is gambling but someone at a right age that doesn't wanna get tracked down right? Well, the point is, the age restriction system will not really work here unless they implement KYC system with real time verification. Because merely, an ID's could still be used to steal identity to a person if they really want to gamble with a restricted age. I actually didn't think about it before. Thanks for sharing a different point of view. Also, agreed that KYC implementation make users more 'vulnerable' to data leaks but in general KYC is needed for projects that aim to be legal and fair. But what keeps a kid from faking his ID making it look like he's old enough? I saw many KYC procedures that asks that a user uploads he's ID front and back side and that's it. What is keeping a kid to "photoshop" his ID to show he was born in 2000. and not in 2010.? I am not the expert but KYC people probably can detect a fake photoshopped id from the real scan unless it is done professionally. Would they care enough to go after you? I have doubts. From my experience, they usually let anyone play on the casino until the players starts winning big and only then, KYC team starts taking its job seriously. Till then, nobody cares. It's easy to determine a photoshopped id, try to zoom in and check if the pixels are unusual, which means it's being warped or something edited on it. Valid ID always has patterns, some are government logos printed, and watermarks so you can check if it's symmetrical or not. But agree that KYC isn't a biggie unless you've made a scene on a casino house.
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April 18, 2020, 04:54:39 AM |
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They wouldn't be mature enough to know the gambling strategies and might lose a lump of money in a go.
As far as I'm concern how about those advanced kids that know the I/O of gambling and the internet even below 18 or the age restriction? I think there might be a rare scenario like that and those companies may never know. Gambling companies should have strict restriction towards investments and losses, if the investment and losses tend to go beyond a limit, they should be freezing the account for certain period of time.
It's good if they do but I think most of these companies only care about the profit they can make from investors and gamblers, they'll only freeze an account if there's suspicious about it. It might be a good idea but that depends on a certain kind of player like high rollers and not but I have doubts this will never be implemented.
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April 18, 2020, 05:12:28 AM |
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Unless, it is not the kid that is gambling but someone at a right age that doesn't wanna get tracked down right? Well, the point is, the age restriction system will not really work here unless they implement KYC system with real time verification. Because merely, an ID's could still be used to steal identity to a person if they really want to gamble with a restricted age. I actually didn't think about it before. Thanks for sharing a different point of view. Also, agreed that KYC implementation make users more 'vulnerable' to data leaks but in general KYC is needed for projects that aim to be legal and fair. But what keeps a kid from faking his ID making it look like he's old enough? I saw many KYC procedures that asks that a user uploads he's ID front and back side and that's it. What is keeping a kid to "photoshop" his ID to show he was born in 2000. and not in 2010.? I am not the expert but KYC people probably can detect a fake photoshopped id from the real scan unless it is done professionally. Would they care enough to go after you? I have doubts. From my experience, they usually let anyone play on the casino until the players starts winning big and only then, KYC team starts taking its job seriously. Till then, nobody cares. It's easy to determine a photoshopped id, try to zoom in and check if the pixels are unusual, which means it's being warped or something edited on it. Valid ID always has patterns, some are government logos printed, and watermarks so you can check if it's symmetrical or not. But agree that KYC isn't a biggie unless you've made a scene on a casino house. do you think a casino will be interested to verify a fake ID by following your way. I am sure they would not untill it has been asked by the authorities. They will allow them to gamble as long as they have an ID.
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April 18, 2020, 11:59:20 AM |
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Unless, it is not the kid that is gambling but someone at a right age that doesn't wanna get tracked down right? Well, the point is, the age restriction system will not really work here unless they implement KYC system with real time verification. Because merely, an ID's could still be used to steal identity to a person if they really want to gamble with a restricted age. I actually didn't think about it before. Thanks for sharing a different point of view. Also, agreed that KYC implementation make users more 'vulnerable' to data leaks but in general KYC is needed for projects that aim to be legal and fair. But what keeps a kid from faking his ID making it look like he's old enough? I saw many KYC procedures that asks that a user uploads he's ID front and back side and that's it. What is keeping a kid to "photoshop" his ID to show he was born in 2000. and not in 2010.? I am not the expert but KYC people probably can detect a fake photoshopped id from the real scan unless it is done professionally. Would they care enough to go after you? I have doubts. From my experience, they usually let anyone play on the casino until the players starts winning big and only then, KYC team starts taking its job seriously. Till then, nobody cares. It's easy to determine a photoshopped id, try to zoom in and check if the pixels are unusual, which means it's being warped or something edited on it. Valid ID always has patterns, some are government logos printed, and watermarks so you can check if it's symmetrical or not. But agree that KYC isn't a biggie unless you've made a scene on a casino house. do you think a casino will be interested to verify a fake ID by following your way. I am sure they would not untill it has been asked by the authorities. They will allow them to gamble as long as they have an ID. I'm just saying it's easy to photoshop an ID to make it look like a person it belongs to is an adult. Of course there is a way to check if the ID is altered in any way, but the question is will the casino put an extra effort to check? I guess some "elite" casinos will check thoroughly every ID to keep their name clean. They surely don't want fines for letting under age kids gamble. As for some shady casinos, they will probably check if a person is adult according to the ID that he uploaded. They won't care if it is altered or not. As for parent taking care of their kids, I'm all for that. But it's a thin line between taking care of what they are doing online and invasion of their privacy.
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Malawi allows the age of 5 years to gamble? really very sad... It would be interesting to find out at what age it is allowed to buy alcohol and sigaretes in Malawi. Probably not st the age of 5. I think it is good to allow to gamble at the same age wheb you can buy alcohol or sigaretes. Because gambling without booze is booring ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Just joking. At the casinos players are offered often free alcoholic drink. That is why I think gambling should be allowed at the same age buying alcohol is allowed. It would probably look stupid when you are at the casino or other gambling place and waitress must ask your id to check if you are allowed to drink or not.
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April 18, 2020, 03:24:58 PM |
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^ I am amazed by countries that the age restriction is only five. Definitely this country has other rules for this young age for them to be allowed in gambling. Addiction to gambling lies not on the age instead of the individual's perception. Those countries that allow their citizens in gambling at the age of 23 definitely they have lesser restriction or rules. But respecting tradition probably the reason until now that has existed.
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April 18, 2020, 04:06:40 PM |
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Malawi allows the age of 5 years to gamble? really very sad...
[/quote] is it real? age of 5? what law can allow kids to gamble after age 5, do they know how to read or write, how to gamble at age 5, it is insane, i cannot believe that this is true, could someone provide a link to this law, in any language, should be sent to Unicef for children abuse
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April 18, 2020, 04:31:43 PM |
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But what keeps a kid from faking his ID making it look like he's old enough? I saw many KYC procedures that asks that a user uploads he's ID front and back side and that's it. What is keeping a kid to "photoshop" his ID to show he was born in 2000. and not in 2010.?
But certainly kids of age lesser than 18-20 shouldn't be allowed to gamble or invest or trade in any kind of commodity. The parents taking care of them should probably check their actions from time to time, and should see that they don't really get addicted towards gambling on the whole. Well my take on this is if you have a decent job, not living with your parents or your parents that not support you in terms of financial then you have the right to spend on whatever you want like gambling even you are 18 years old. I guess we should start limiting the limits like age, gender, etc. since we are modern now, we should think of something new and something relevant. As for investment, I think we should start implementing a slight check on the investor, not just because they have a money to give to you but you want the money to be given hard earned and clean.
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April 18, 2020, 06:31:55 PM |
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Malawi allows the age of 5 years to gamble? really very sad... It would be interesting to find out at what age it is allowed to buy alcohol and sigaretes in Malawi. Probably not st the age of 5. I think it is good to allow to gamble at the same age wheb you can buy alcohol or sigaretes. Because gambling without booze is booring ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Just joking. At the casinos players are offered often free alcoholic drink. That is why I think gambling should be allowed at the same age buying alcohol is allowed. It would probably look stupid when you are at the casino or other gambling place and waitress must ask your id to check if you are allowed to drink or not. I was never in an "offline" casino and I didn't know that some of them offer free alcoholic drinks. But when you think about it, it kind of makes sense - you get drunk and lose all your money. I guess it's better for a casino that a gambler is drunk than sober ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 18, 2020, 09:50:05 PM |
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I wonder what would be a 5 year old kid bet, 3 candies and a lollypop? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You can start gambling when you are ready to realise what and how much you can lose. Some people understand that at the age of 5, someone dont understand that at the age of 55. There should be no age restriction, but person should understand all the consequences.
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April 18, 2020, 11:07:41 PM |
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Malawi allows the age of 5 years to gamble? really very sad...
is it real? age of 5? what law can allow kids to gamble after age 5, do they know how to read or write, how to gamble at age 5, it is insane, i cannot believe that this is true, could someone provide a link to this law, in any language, should be sent to Unicef for children abuse [/quote] For me its sounds interesting as well as strange that 5 years old kid only starts going school in my place then how can a government can allow children of age 5 to gamble when they even cant count the money. I think gambling should be allow only to adults and those who can understand gambling that's why at my place people of age 18 are allow and able to gamble.
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April 19, 2020, 08:40:14 AM |
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Malawi allows the age of 5 years to gamble? really very sad...
is it real? age of 5? what law can allow kids to gamble after age 5, do they know how to read or write, how to gamble at age 5, it is insane, i cannot believe that this is true, could someone provide a link to this law, in any language, should be sent to Unicef for children abuse For me its sounds interesting as well as strange that 5 years old kid only starts going school in my place then how can a government can allow children of age 5 to gamble when they even cant count the money. I think gambling should be allow only to adults and those who can understand gambling that's why at my place people of age 18 are allow and able to gamble. That is only the restriction age and not necessarily mean that when a kid turned at the age of 5 means he will actually go to a gambling house and play by himself. We all know that there is no way that a kid will know what he is doing inside a gambling house and there is no way that he can produce enough money to gamble unless he is with his guardian.
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April 19, 2020, 09:12:58 AM |
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I wonder what would be a 5 year old kid bet, 3 candies and a lollypop? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You can start gambling when you are ready to realise what and how much you can lose. Some people understand that at the age of 5, someone dont understand that at the age of 55. There should be no age restriction, but person should understand all the consequences. That is the minimum age limit, it does not mean that a 5 year old will go ahead and gamble for candy. Still I am not sure why did they decide to set the minimum age limit as 5. I mean what was the government thinking when they were deciding the age limit?
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April 19, 2020, 09:47:41 AM |
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I wonder what would be a 5 year old kid bet, 3 candies and a lollypop? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You can start gambling when you are ready to realise what and how much you can lose. Some people understand that at the age of 5, someone dont understand that at the age of 55. There should be no age restriction, but person should understand all the consequences. That is the minimum age limit, it does not mean that a 5 year old will go ahead and gamble for candy. Still I am not sure why did they decide to set the minimum age limit as 5. I mean what was the government thinking when they were deciding the age limit? yep, that is my point, it is better without any regulation then to have regulation like this one, why did they do it, because they had 3 year old gambling and wanted to forbid that kid from gambling, and then put restriction on age 5, so that kid should wait two years and then gamble, i mean that is really something from the government
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April 19, 2020, 09:58:28 AM |
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I wonder what would be a 5 year old kid bet, 3 candies and a lollypop? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You can start gambling when you are ready to realise what and how much you can lose. Some people understand that at the age of 5, someone dont understand that at the age of 55. There should be no age restriction, but person should understand all the consequences. That is the minimum age limit, it does not mean that a 5 year old will go ahead and gamble for candy. Still I am not sure why did they decide to set the minimum age limit as 5. I mean what was the government thinking when they were deciding the age limit? yep, that is my point, it is better without any regulation then to have regulation like this one, why did they do it, because they had 3 year old gambling and wanted to forbid that kid from gambling, and then put restriction on age 5, so that kid should wait two years and then gamble, i mean that is really something from the government Are you really making a statement about this? A 5 year old boy is not suitable for gambling, but is 6 years old suitable? Really? I think there must be an age restriction and this should not be less than 15. Take a look at the children around you. Evaluate how old (approximate) individuals who can make really healthy decisions. Not every 15-year-old child may be of the same maturity, but we have to find an average age. And this age should not be 5!
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April 19, 2020, 10:13:04 AM |
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I wonder what would be a 5 year old kid bet, 3 candies and a lollypop? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You can start gambling when you are ready to realise what and how much you can lose. Some people understand that at the age of 5, someone dont understand that at the age of 55. There should be no age restriction, but person should understand all the consequences. It's not about what the kid can bet at his age. The puzzle is if that's really part of their culture and they are allowing as young as a 5-year-old to gamble. In different countries, we don't know the culture that they have with regards to gambling.
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