Vod's double standards

[savetheFORUM]

Had immense respect for Vod but it has now gone because of how he acts when his friends are at wrong side.

Compare the situations below

TECSHARE trust - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=15728

What Vod's rating says is as follow: Mentally ill stalker who will post private messages then lie about it as revenge for ignoring him. Avoid.

This means Vod does not support the practices of posting personal conversations publicly.

Here is what Lauda did: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230267.0

Posting personal messages in public is what Lauda in fact did. Vod is now in defend act rather than to tag Lauda is this not a clear case double standards?

[Vod]

This means Vod does not support the practices of posting personal conversations publicly.

No, it means I do not support people who post PMs simply because they are ignored, then lie about the reason.

Posting complete threads like Lauda has done is OK if necessary.  Lauda's trust will suffer if he/she does it often and maliciously.  Picking and choosing what you post, even removing context from a post, is not OK.

Had immense respect for Vod but it has now gone because of how he acts when his friends are at wrong side.

I will miss a wishy washy friend like you.  :/

[Lauda]

Damned if I expose it, damned if I do not as then I am colluding. Sigh.

[savetheFORUM]

Damned if I expose it, damned if I do not as then I am colluding. Sigh.

Your fun is over man, tagging people who are scammed by your casino is shameless and tagging anyone who support them is even more shameful. Please do not ever reply to my threads or posts because I consider you to be a joke now.

This means Vod does not support the practices of posting personal conversations publicly.

No, it means I do not support people who post PMs simply because they are ignored, then lie about the reason.

Posting complete threads like Lauda has done is OK if necessary.  Lauda's trust will suffer if he/she does it often and maliciously.  Picking and choosing what you post, even removing context from a post, is not OK.

Had immense respect for Vod but it has now gone because of how he acts when his friends are at wrong side.

I will miss a wishy washy friend like you.  :/

And can you explain why you post new positive ratings once Lauda was tagged? Oh you trust Lauda even more after she does something wrong?

[Lauda]

Damned if I expose it, damned if I do not as then I am colluding. Sigh.

Your fun is over man, tagging people who are scammed by your casino is shameless and tagging anyone who support them is even more shameful. Please do not ever reply to my threads or posts because I consider you to be a joke now.

Quoted for reference. Defamation, always defamation.

[ChuckBuck]

Controversies like these are constantly taking place around trusted members of this forum  Lauda, Vod, TMAN, marlboroza. Is there anyone else? Come here with a new account and put a name like a true hero  Have you read the Vod's statement before? Search with keyword Vod's Change, read it and don't try to do nonsense with a new account

[Foxpup]

Controversies like these are constantly taking place around trusted members of this forum  Lauda, Vod, TMAN, marlboroza. Is there anyone else?

Now you come to mention it, I haven't seen either of c******unter's latest alts calling for an objective investigation by AGENT FOXPOOP. I'm starting to feel left out.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Why do you keep making new accounts to repeat the same nonsense over and over again? Please stick to 1 account, makes it easier to ignore your rambling.

[ChuckBuck]

Now you come to mention it, I haven't seen either of c******unter's latest alts calling for an objective investigation by AGENT FOXPOOP. I'm starting to feel left out.

LOL  Let me help you  But first of all, show me any "black holes" you have, I'll create a new account and come here to complain about it. You will never be abandoned 

[actmyname]

In contrast to the views of many others here, I actually don't think this user is related to cryptohunter.
I had a short PM discussion with the user and noted a significant difference in writing style and personality.

It is detrimental to immediate jump to accusatory remarks when it comes to users you disagree with and the constant barrage of "you're an alt of X" is tiring.
These accusations boil down to a simple projection, rooted in the accuser's history, rather than any tangible logical progression.

[TECSHARE]

This means Vod does not support the practices of posting personal conversations publicly.

No, it means I do not support people who post PMs simply because they are ignored, then lie about the reason.

What lie Vod? Please quote.

[Lauda]

In contrast to the views of many others here, I actually don't think this user is related to cryptohunter.
I had a short PM discussion with the user and noted a significant difference in writing style and personality.

It is detrimental to immediate jump to accusatory remarks when it comes to users you disagree with and the constant barrage of "you're an alt of X" is tiring.
These accusations boil down to a simple projection, rooted in the accuser's history, rather than any tangible logical progression.

Thule and friends. Wake up, you are being easily played by monkeys.

[savetheFORUM]

Damned if I expose it, damned if I do not as then I am colluding. Sigh.

Your fun is over man, tagging people who are scammed by your casino is shameless and tagging anyone who support them is even more shameful. Please do not ever reply to my threads or posts because I consider you to be a joke now.

Quoted for reference. Defamation, always defamation.

Well I don't mind the feedback you gave me but I feel like the whole DT is a joke. Some hours ago you were kicked and slammed out of DT but again you have been dragged back into DT by your friends.

I think it's time Theymos should sell the forum to you if he can't even manage obvious power abuse.

I have a few questions left to be answered.

First one, @Vod why you give a new rating as soon as Lauda is given red trust by someone?

@Lauda as soon as anyone has thoughts that don't match you you tag people because I don't see a single person on forum that doesn't agree with while gets away without a trust feedback, so are you gonna agree that anyone who thinks otherwise will be tagged by you?

[Lauda]

I think it's time Theymos should sell the forum to you if he can't even manage obvious power abuse.

This is not needed. 1 month Kitty admin and this place will be booming with innovation again. 

@Lauda as soon as anyone has thoughts that don't match you you tag people because I don't see a single person on forum that doesn't agree with while gets away without a trust feedback, so are you gonna agree that anyone who thinks otherwise will be tagged by you?

I'll bring a good example: Theymos and I have very very conflicting opinions on several things, up to the point where I would even state that some of these opinions or policies are making certain things much riskier (my opinion). However, all of these opinions of his are very sound i.e. backed by either research or knowledge and when questioned then you will receive comprehensive and sound argumentation as to why this is. Therefore, difference in opinion =/= defamation =/= malicious trolling and other bullshit. The latter two are inherently untrustworthy, and suchmoony I am sorry but that is just real life.

[TECSHARE]

I think it's time Theymos should sell the forum to you if he can't even manage obvious power abuse.

This is not needed. 1 month Kitty admin and this place will be booming with innovation again. 

@Lauda as soon as anyone has thoughts that don't match you you tag people because I don't see a single person on forum that doesn't agree with while gets away without a trust feedback, so are you gonna agree that anyone who thinks otherwise will be tagged by you?

I'll bring a good example: Theymos and I have very very conflicting opinions on several things, up to the point where I would even state that some of these opinions or policies are making certain things much riskier (my opinion). However, all of these opinions of his are very sound i.e. backed by either research or knowledge and when questioned then you will receive comprehensive and sound argumentation as to why this is. Therefore, difference in opinion =/= defamation =/= malicious trolling and other bullshit. The latter two are inherently untrustworthy, and suchmoony I am sorry but that is just real life.

You are a tumor on this forum. That is a fact.

[Vod]

You are a tumor on this forum. That is a fact.

This is my thread.  If Lauda is a tumor, then you are in the blood.  That is a fact.

The following re-post should have been made in this thread.  It explains I have no double standards.

I can see dumping an entire PM chain to defend oneself - I don't think a person would be guilty of a moral crime.

Consider another example that happened to me - a user took a link I sent him in the middle of a conversation, stripped out all context, made me look like a pervert, then innocently asked "Vod, can you provide us some context? "

Post all of the thread - or at least all of an atomic post - or post nothing.  If you pick and choose words, that should be considered malicious.

[TECSHARE]

You are a tumor on this forum. That is a fact.

This is my thread.  If Lauda is a tumor, then you are in the blood.  That is a fact.

The following re-post should have been made in this thread.  It explains I have no double standards.

I can see dumping an entire PM chain to defend oneself - I don't think a person would be guilty of a moral crime.

Consider another example that happened to me - a user took a link I sent him in the middle of a conversation, stripped out all context, made me look like a pervert, then innocently asked "Vod, can you provide us some context? "

Post all of the thread - or at least all of an atomic post - or post nothing.  If you pick and choose words, that should be considered malicious.

Is it Vod? It seems more like a thread about you and Lauda based on the OP. I don't know where you get off taking ownership of it regardless. I guess that is just more of your megalomania showing. Still waiting for you to quote that lie Vod.

[ChuckBuck]

Is it Vod? It seems more like a thread about you and Lauda based on the OP. I don't know where you get off taking ownership of it regardless. I guess that is just more of your megalomania showing. Still waiting for you to quote that lie Vod.

LOL this is the n th time I see someone asking like this: Is it Vod?
Every time they see Vod give a few personal opinions that contrary to their thinking, this question is raised. After a series of similar questions, is Vod still him? Has his account been hacked? Why? Do you see any difference in his thinking? It is an excuse for you not to trust Vod  Just an excuse

[sbogovac]

Is it Vod? It seems more like a thread about you and Lauda based on the OP. I don't know where you get off taking ownership of it regardless. I guess that is just more of your megalomania showing. Still waiting for you to quote that lie Vod.

LOL this is the n th time I see someone asking like this: Is it Vod?
Every time they see Vod give a few personal opinions that contrary to their thinking, this question is raised. After a series of similar questions, is Vod still him? Has his account been hacked? Why? Do you see any difference in his thinking? It is an excuse for you not to trust Vod   Just an excuse

I think you misinterpreted... can't say you misread because actually TS made a grammatical error i assume; he should have written: "Is it, Vod?". That comma makes the difference because it specifies that the question is: "is it really a thread about you, Vod?" as TS is reacting on/with:

[...]

This is my thread.[...]

Is it Vod? It seems more like a thread about you and Lauda based on the OP. [...]

For the [OT] rest: what a load of childish BS (again)...  

[bonesjonesreturns]

For senior members (pre 2012) the slow decline of once helpful and charismatic VOD has been painful to watch. To a rock bottom of public scolding by theymos for dox. That was emotional poorly considered move. I think he regret so we can let it pass. Not irreparable damage.

Any member supporting a proven scammer like lauda who undeniably abuses the trust system to silence whistleblowers revealing irrefutable evidence of his own lying and scamming,  Now you have witnessed how lauda will use it to try to silence those raising troubling events that should be published here as a warning to other members.

Vod is not a scammer. He seem to have at some point fallen out with other seniors such as OGnasty, tecshare and some other not quite as senior. This has created a toxic environment between them on a personal level.
I believe that VOD has sadly employed the reasoning : the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I am retaining hope this is his motivation to bonding with laudas core scamming, extorting crew. Not that he wishes to support or defend their dangerous behaviours.

Several past comments VOD has made are supportive of this theory.
VODS own current behavior will disappoint himself upopn future reflection. There still remains a path to former excellent form.

I do believe fear play a part of VODs appearance of supporting  lauda and does open him up to legitimate criticism of double standards. There are posts that support this theory.

VOD would be best to leave emotion at the door. Ignore and avoid where possible stirring up old personal grudges that are not related to scamming. Start taking the path that returns to objective, constructive and admirable member. This current alliance with such a tainted group as these can only tarnish one of only a handful of truly recognized senior accounts that remains active on bitcointalk.

Can Vod accomplish this rising above the personal deep grudges that drives him to seek allegiance with proven scammers?
We can observe. I hope yes. But yes, it is still sensible to raise these examples of errors of judgement.

Chuckbuck? Nullius? These from nowhere? Nullius account clearly awoke to do laudas bidding. Looks incredibly suspect.
Chuckbuck who? Has anyone examined his post history? When staunched supporters of scammers appear from nowhere it is worthy of deeper analysis