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July 14, 2020, 06:16:52 AM |
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That's the point of the facemasks, to protect others. That's been known since the beginning. You wear a facemask to protect others from yourself, and in turn others wear facemasks to protect you and others themselves. Then you have a holes who are inconsiderate.
100% true, the face masks are not to protect yourself - you might already have corona and don't even know it - it's only to limit spreading it to other people. Even though masks are no complete protection - they definitely help. So not wearing masks is actually a risk for other people more than yourself and should be fined. totally agree, at this time the fear of the corona virus is the absence of any symptoms from people who have contracted the corona virus. so that if it is not anticipated then transmission can be assured of rapid occurrence and this is terrible. I agree that there is no exception at all for all using a sick and non-sick facemasker. because that's one way to reduce transmission that is very terrible. that requires a high awareness to be able to use a facemasker every time you go outside the house. of course, government officials can supervise those who do not use the facemasker to comply properly.
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July 14, 2020, 07:49:25 AM |
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How can buying and using facemasks won't help you from the coronavirus because every doctor, scientist, nurses, and other people always recommend wearing your facemasks and proper hygiene to protect yourself from the virus. The picture itself is the best proof that wearing facemasks could help you stay away from any illness and diseases.
You are wearing just a facemask while doctors and scientists wear complete PPE kits that is the difference. And many countries even don't have enough N 95 masks due to its huge demand so it is like one of the business strategies created by biggest companies.Also mentione about sanitizers, they can say 99% of bacteria will die if you use sanitizers but covid 19 isn't a bacteria right. :Covid-19 is a poison which is developed to kill the Mankind and poisons do not have vaccine. Wearing facemask is a trend but it has not helped reduce the covid-19 cases, did it ? Facemask making companies including N95 ones are making a lot of money in this pandemic. If you buy those expensive masks, you can basically helping their business grow. It isn't deadly as we think, humankind already faced more deadly virus than corona 19 but we are getting more warning to this virus just because governments wanted to use this as an economy reset which was already oversized since the last recession.Human kind is easy to be manipulated that is why we just follow the trend what has been shown to us like in media,social network, blah...
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July 14, 2020, 06:49:59 PM |
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Hello! I do not buy masks, I make them and give them to children and doctors for free.
I'm seriously thinking about making mine out of fiberglass window screen... only one layer thick.
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July 15, 2020, 05:57:49 AM |
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Check out the '#Masks4All'. A group of scientpriests tied to the World Economic Forum. They took their photos with obviously photoshopped masks to make sure that people know that they are of the class of people who don't wear masks as do the plebeians. Wearing a mask is an obvious form of humiliation which is why it is so funny to see Trump buckle. NBC Caught Faking COVID Case, Immunity Passports Are Here & Trump Now Say He's 'All For Masks'
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July 17, 2020, 07:08:55 PM Last edit: July 17, 2020, 07:18:59 PM by jackg |
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Face masks are good for something, I'm sure.
Most masks can provide 150L/minute of air afaik with the average person needing about 7 or 8. Rather than linking to youtube, I'd prefer this: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmissionUsing face masks in the communityECDC TECHNICALREPORT2In theEU/EEA and the UK... There is no evidence that non-medical facemasks or other face coversare an effective means of respiratory protection for the wearer of the mask. Overall, various non-medical face maskswere shown to have very low filter efficiency(2–38%) [21]. In one study, cotton surgical masks were associated with a higher risk of penetration of microorganisms andILI compared to no masks[5].
I'm assuming this is just a way to boost people's confidence in crowded public spaces and then blame the ones who don't comply for the prblems that arise from the use of it...
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July 17, 2020, 07:55:29 PM |
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Face masks are good for something, I'm sure.
Most masks can provide 150L/minute of air afaik with the average person needing about 7 or 8. Rather than linking to youtube, I'd prefer this: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmissionUsing face masks in the communityECDC TECHNICALREPORT2In theEU/EEA and the UK... There is no evidence that non-medical facemasks or other face coversare an effective means of respiratory protection for the wearer of the mask. Overall, various non-medical face maskswere shown to have very low filter efficiency(2–38%) [21]. In one study, cotton surgical masks were associated with a higher risk of penetration of microorganisms andILI compared to no masks[5].
I'm assuming this is just a way to boost people's confidence in crowded public spaces and then blame the ones who don't comply for the prblems that arise from the use of it... I agree with you about videos. They are hype in the way that the narrator/commentator is trying to sway you by his/her acting on-screen. I wish that they would simply list the points with the sources. Tash put up a link to a great video that has all kinds of references for reasons why masks are useless or bad for you - https://youtu.be/RBlyh96yL7Q?t=74. And I showed one by Ben Swann - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8upEg-bEJ8. The Swann video twisted the point it was talking about, a little. And the Tash video didn't clearly give you links to the CDC sources for reasons not to wear a mask (or at least I missed them). I wish all the authoritative sources were linked in an easy way to find the links. But even then, much news reporting has to do with rhetoric by the reporter, and the real sense of what is being portrayed isn't clear.
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July 17, 2020, 07:59:17 PM Last edit: July 17, 2020, 08:26:56 PM by Darkoth89 |
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[...] I'm assuming this is just a way to boost people's confidence in crowded public spaces and then blame the ones who don't comply for the prblems that arise from the use of it...
Of couse you can blame the ones don't wearing a mask. I thought it's already well known that you don't wear facemasks to protect yourself but rather protect others from you. That's why you should also quote this from the article you posted: A face mask may help reduce the spread of infection in the community by minimising the excretion of respiratory droplets from infected individuals who may not even know they are infected and before they develop any symptoms. Another scientific study that gives evidence that wearing a (surgical) face mask prevents you from spreading the virus: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.
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July 18, 2020, 03:39:29 AM |
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^^^ but you can find other studies that say masks don't prevent virus transfer. Consider Ben Swann, for example - Why Face Masks DON'T Work, According To SCIENCE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8upEg-bEJ8.
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July 20, 2020, 04:07:01 AM |
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It is sad to see that there are a lot of people who are not believing to what face masks can do, I also saw a video posted by NowThis where a lot of people in the United States doesn't believe that face mask are effective. I think it is the main reason why their country is the no.1 in terms of having infected person and also in terms of death related cases. It is better to wear face masks than to weak oxygen later in hospital. Our lives are matter and if we want to not get infected with other infected person, be sure that we are wearing face masks.
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July 20, 2020, 05:03:37 AM |
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It is sad to see that there are a lot of people who are not believing to what face masks can do, I also saw a video posted by NowThis where a lot of people in the United States doesn't believe that face mask are effective. I think it is the main reason why their country is the no.1 in terms of having infected person and also in terms of death related cases. It is better to wear face masks than to weak oxygen later in hospital. Our lives are matter and if we want to not get infected with other infected person, be sure that we are wearing face masks.
On free countries where the politics are polarized, like United States, there is a lot of sabotage to inflate the numbers and drive the common sense/public opinion against the establishment's targets, in this case: Trump's administration and supporters. There are several cases of people who didn't die from coronavirus, but they were counted as if they did on the statistics. On the other hand, at strict shady countries where free of speech is limited or masked by authorities, the number os deaths is underestimated, as there isn't transparency, then it causes a false impression some countries are being very effective combating coronavirus, while others are being disastrous.
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July 20, 2020, 01:37:22 PM |
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I am glad that wearing masks is not necessary in my country (or at least no one cares and no one takes this virus seriously)
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July 20, 2020, 01:54:15 PM |
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I am glad that wearing masks is not necessary in my country (or at least no one cares and no one takes this virus seriously)
What country is that? Maybe I need to have a place there.
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July 20, 2020, 05:53:56 PM |
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It is so sad that the government has decided to impose a law that everyone that goes to the super markets need to wear masks. In all other places you are not obliged to do so. I wonder why they did that in the super markets? Maybe in order to increase the sales of Facemasks? Who knows...
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July 20, 2020, 07:50:39 PM |
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Previously I had disagreed with you regarding vaccination. And this time also, I need to disagree with you. Virus is an extremely minute organism, and even the highest quality mask may not be able to prevent it from entering your body. But that said, you need to understand how the COVID 19 virus spreads. It spreads when an infected person sneezes, or coughs. There is a study by Japanese scientists and you can refer that one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvFkQizTT4&feature=emb_titleAs from this study, the virus is present in the micro-droplets which are released by an infected person. The role of the mask here is to prevent these droplets from entering the body of a healthy person. And I believe that surgical masks and N95 masks do a good job in this case. For me, it is clear that wearing a mask can drastically reduce the chances of getting an infection. But I can agree with you if you want to say that masks doesn't guarantee 100% protection from COVID 19.
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July 20, 2020, 10:56:55 PM |
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Facemask are advocated to be worn mainly in public places hence, it might not serve much in filtration but it discourages taking through which contaminants can be freely introduced into the environment. Undoubtedly, it has certain adverse effect when the proper face mask isn't sort out for and used in guidelines with health safety measures. Facemask cannot only prevent the pandemic but also assist in it's spread if not used carefully. The coronavirus is known to persist on inanimate things not excluding the so called face mask hence, it can harbor the virus. Corona virus attacks the respiratory track hence, extensive use of facemask can result in suffocation and more. Eat healthy food, choose safe practices and choose life. Stay safe.
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Facemask are advocated to be worn mainly in public places hence, it might not serve much in filtration but it discourages taking through which contaminants can be freely introduced into the environment. Undoubtedly, it has certain adverse effect when the proper face mask isn't sort out for and used in guidelines with health safety measures. Facemask cannot only prevent the pandemic but also assist in it's spread if not used carefully. The coronavirus is known to persist on inanimate things not excluding the so called face mask hence, it can harbor the virus. Corona virus attacks the respiratory track hence, extensive use of facemask can result in suffocation and more. Eat healthy food, choose safe practices and choose life. Stay safe.
The problem with this is that there are countries that are really strict about wearing face mask and they arrest for not wearing one. But the problem is, they don't care what kind of face mask you are using as long as there is something on top of your face. They really don't care about the importance of which face mask should you use but they are more on who are not using any type of face mask.
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July 21, 2020, 03:17:29 AM |
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if some people wear masks made of material that are applied from rubber or plastic such as medical teams to prevent the spread of viruses or ward off viruses that will enter the body, then the possibility of people not wearing masks will be more worried if they are close to people who wear masks, they will feel uncomfortable because the view of people wearing masks will be considered as a medical team that always interacts directly with Covid-19 sufferers, therefore I think cloth masks are also sufficient to minimize the prevention of viruses that will enter the mouth and nose and can even applied with ordinary glasses that many people use
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July 21, 2020, 05:15:15 AM |
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It occurred to me last night that it is very common to implement social change by enlisting local peoples into organized groups to do certain thing which are not always appreciated by the local populace or universally looked at by the local populace as wholesome. Examples would include:
- the Bolsheviks at the start of the Soviet era in Russia,
- the 'Brownshirts' at the start of the Nazi era in Germany,
- the Irgun which did some of the early and most severe ethnic cleansing in Palestine.
- the various 'right wing death squads' in Central and South America in my time.
The list is long. As a matter of fact, there may not be almost any totalitarian takeover which did NOT involve locally organized paramilitary elements of one magnitude or another.
Probably one of the forces countering the formation of such groups and dampening of their methods would be peer pressure. In a local environment most everybody knows most everyone else. While Bobby, who played guard on the high school varsity basketball team, might be convinced to go out and kill palastinian kid with the proper kind of indoctrination, it would take a lot more pressure to get him to do it when all his friends and family would know.
It could be that the 'mandate' for 'masks everywhere' is, more than anything else, mostly about fostering the perception of anonymity between individuals at a local level so that certain future operations will face less pushback when the time is right to roll them out.
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Whatever the case, it's been abundantly clear that masks have nothing to do with health except perhaps to make people more prone to being sick and stupid for lack of oxygen.
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