Does anyone pay for slandering gambling websites on Bitcointalk?

[longyenthanh]

In several threads in the gambling section, I noticed "Newbie" accounts that try to slander the name of the gambling website in any possible way.
Some often sounds very trustworthy - they certainly have experience.
Do you also think that competitors pays for slandering?

[crwth]

Since it is easy with regards to creating an account here in Bitcointalk, it's safe to say that almost "ANYONE" could create an account. Making a statement to a rival gambling website is easy. It's the people who would take it either real or fake. I think it would be trustworthy (even if it's a newbie account) if it's accompanied by the list below.

• Facts with verifiable source/evidence
• Unbiased view of the situation
• The timestamp should agree with the events

Mostly, I think that's it. Maybe other members could add as well.

[dunfida]

^ On point and i do fully agree with those word above.

We wont know if those newbies got paid or just totally have that legit claims towards on a gambling site.The majority or the public isnt
really blind on searching up to things yet we can easily spot out which one is simply trying to ruin sites reputation or the one who do
tell the truth by showing clear evidences.If they cant provide such thing then we can directly ignore these claims.

[swogerino]

In several threads in the gambling section, I noticed "Newbie" accounts that try to slander the name of the gambling website in any possible way.
Some often sounds very trustworthy - they certainly have experience.
Do you also think that competitors pays for slandering?

I think that strong accusations need strong facts.Whenever facts are posted here and verified independently from many sources then this is a real scam accusation and not slandering.However many such accounts can be used for the only purpose of slandering and it cannot be stopped because they can easily create a new account and come back for more slandering.I trust only strong evidence.

[xvids]

There is no reason for any gambling site to pay for such act.
They wouldn't get anything from doing it so what's the point?
If it is to lessen the competition then it would be better to improve their platform than to pay for slandering other sites.

[fortunecrypto]

In several threads in the gambling section, I noticed "Newbie" accounts that try to slander the name of the gambling website in any possible way.
Some often sounds very trustworthy - they certainly have experience.
Do you also think that competitors pays for slandering?

It's all goes up to the veracity of the accusations and claims, if they do not have a valid accusations it will not stand it's not about the rank of the accuser, there are gamblers who do not have an account here and will only get one if they are cheated, I don't think anyone here will say that he was paid to slander these gambling sites.

[ryzaadit]

It could be yes from other casino/individual who really hates the gambling website.

Competition between the industry of gambling cryptocurrency was really tight, some of them could make a fake accused. But the accused will be handle case by case, most of the accusation does not a valid/lack of proof for their accused.

I also already see so many cases, who accused the gambling site without solid proof. I don't know why they do that, maybe he was no job or has his own grudge. If you find some accusation thread without solid proof, i suggest to you guys just ignore him and "DO NOT FEED THE TROLL"

[peter0425]

In several threads in the gambling section, I noticed "Newbie" accounts that try to slander the name of the gambling website in any possible way.
Some often sounds very trustworthy - they certainly have experience.
Do you also think that competitors pays for slandering?

though i believe that there is,yet i think this will be depending on the proof the accuser can give because this is not a easy task to fulfill if they are really here to slander the sites or just to tell the truth.

and what i am sure of is there is a payment behind the issues going on specially in gambling section when just this past days too many accusing happens.but some has been already proven but others are still int he air.

[sheenshane]

It could be yes or maybe no but most cases must have solid proof towards what they claim and I think we can't identify if that is slandering or they had pay for it just to ruin the image of the gambling sites.

In the gambling business sector, we can't deny the fact that there is a competition with each other. So, probably it will may happen there is slandering but it depends on how the strong proof they had. There must be a strong solid proof but if none that is clearly slandering or they feel jealous.

[imstillthebest]

you already said slander right ? so that only mean that they are lying . maybe some pays for them to do that but i know if what gambling site are trustworthy or not  . i just ignore them and you should too so that the problem wont become bigger  .

dont feed the trolls because if you would then they wont stop  . newbie accounts are easy to create and they can create dozens of it  but mods are doing thier best to stop them  and to make this forum free from junks and scams  .

[DoublerHunter]

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dont feed the trolls because if you would then they wont stop  . newbie accounts are easy to create and they can create dozens of it  but mods are doing thier best to stop them  and to make this forum free from junks and scams  .

^ Definitely right, I saw most cases like this on the gambling section. There are few newbies account accusing known gambling site but did not have concrete evidence against the gambling site they said who have fraudulent. Most cases like this I respond if I saw that they are telling right with further support of evidence. Nevertheless, here is the gambling industry or even in any business, there are people who still do like this. Probably there is, who knows.

[avikz]

In several threads in the gambling section, I noticed "Newbie" accounts that try to slander the name of the gambling website in any possible way.
Some often sounds very trustworthy - they certainly have experience.
Do you also think that competitors pays for slandering?

I would say yes! Since this gambling market is largely unregulated, the shady owners indulge themselves in such shady practice. The funny part is that, such accounts are new accounts and only created to accuse famous and well-known gambling websites. For the same reason, a lot of gambling review websites have stopped accepting public reviews because that never reflected actual state of the website. It's always better to test a website on your own and then decide! Remember, we only have a few gambling websites in cryptospace, who are legally registered entity! Majority of other websites are unregulated and run by a kid from home!

[Heisenberg_Hunter]

Slandering has been a form of promotion in this forum right from the beginning of signature campaigns and ICO bounty campaigns. Right back in 2016-2017-2018, scam ICO companies hired many individuals to promote their project and to post false claims favoring the project in the forum. As a result, these individuals created many newbie bumping accounts and have been spamming bullshit about the scam project and there had been various cases of such scenarios from time to time.

Recently after the severe downtrend and scams of ICOs, a start-up gambling company is the newer methodology to scam newbies and subsequently rob their bitcoins. These promotional newbie accounts spam malicious links which could lead to bitcoin stealing script sites or a phishing gambling site which might gain access to your private keys.

I would suggest newbie gamblers to stay away from such scams and continue gambling in trustworthy sites like freebitco, FJ, PlayBetr, Bitsler and CryptoGames. Well apart from these, new gambling sites might be verified for authenticity based on testing the gambling operations like investing smaller amounts.

[mu_enrico]

It's part of the competition mate, when competitors tried to DDoS, posting false reviews, cutting prices just for the sake of bankrupting competitors, etc. However, I'm not sure they did it with some "service providers" or did it internally.

For me, I use this opportunity to see how some casinos deal with issues to see if they can make reasonable arguments with proofs.

[milewilda]

Who knows? But actually they're everywhere either being paid up to slander or just trying to mess around.When it comes to business then its normal to have competitors and i wont be surprised if they would really do such act on trying to ruin others site or business reputation  by just giving out false claims but as said the community isnt dumb enough to believe into claims which doesnt have sufficient proofs that will justify their words.Its easy as 1 2 3 to make a newbie account and said blah blah towards other site.It do somehow give negative impressions to those who doesnt have experience to that site which is is the negative effect but we are here to judge which one is fake and real.

[harizen]

In several threads in the gambling section, I noticed "Newbie" accounts that try to slander the name of the gambling website in any possible way.
Some often sounds very trustworthy - they certainly have experience.
Do you also think that competitors pays for slandering?

First of all, we don't have accurate statistics of the most used gambling sites here meaning even a company will pay for that purpose, it will be a hard task to ruined other sites' reputation. People here, even newbies, are also aware of certain claims if sh*t or not.

If these newbie accounts are claiming they got sh*t by a certain site, they are free to post valid proofs to support their claims. If all they do is to "blah blah blah" without sense then definitely they are trolling.

[Haunebu]

Money leads to competition which leads to companies doing whatever it takes to make it to the top(Generally). Everything goes as they say and no one can stop them. However, we as an audience must decide who to believe and whom to shun basically.

A newbie account does not automatically imply a slanderer, but his claims along with sufficient proof are what primarily matter. Scammers are present among all ranks of the forum. 

[Stedsm]

If the claims of a newbie have got enough proof to show us that the website is acting shady and/or has scammed/will scam their users/any jackpot related issues, bugs on the website, payment issues, etc. and after verifying the given information, if found true, then I believe that such newbie should be considered trustworthy based on accurate information being shared. I don't think anyone would pay a newbie or even a review writer to write something bad against their competitor here as they can easily purchase a copper membership and post anything (from content to images and much more) and present it in a fancy way and due to that, some may even believe them due to the show off they'll do here, but smart guys will go, research a lot before coming to any conclusion and if that newbie is found guilty instead, will tag him for his misleading tactics.

[leowonderful]

Absolutely, and it's even possible that higher-ranked members are being paid to slander other sites. That's just how it'll be as long as Bitcointalk exists, though most of the time one strategy I use to avoid potential fake slander is to only read reviews from higher-ranked members and posts from older accounts as well. That doesn't mean I completely disregard newbie posts, though, because newbie members are sometimes the first to get the news out about some situations.

Most of the larger casinos on this forum also go out of their way to respond to any scam reports or just negative feedbacks made from this forum as well, and it's sometimes the case that some of the negative comments end up being completely unfounded.

[goinmerry]

In several threads in the gambling section, I noticed "Newbie" accounts that try to slander the name of the gambling website in any possible way.
Some often sounds very trustworthy - they certainly have experience.
Do you also think that competitors pays for slandering?

I see nothing wrong for those newbie accounts to have a complaint against a site as long as they backed it up properly, explained it clearly and well-detailed, and able to show some valid evidence.

I also don't think that site owners will pay to crash the other site's credibility here in the forum's gambling section although, in the real world, this kind of activity really happens.

We as users have the ability to understand if such claims are true or not just by reading the arguments and heated discussions of both parties. If you don't mind, can I have those example threads that you think those newbie accounts sounds very trustworthy on their complaints?