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March 10, 2020, 10:07:12 AM
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So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug ,   or try to benefit from it ?

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March 10, 2020, 10:40:38 AM
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Better to report the bug. The worst you can do if you unknowingly or out of curiosity gain from the weakness is to give them back their stuff. There are case where they would deny the exploit, probably due to ignorance,  fear or shame. In such situations, I'd just lock the fund somewhere until they request for it. Or hand it over to a trusted person so I don't use it.
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March 10, 2020, 10:45:13 AM
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So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug ,   or try to benefit from it ?
To be honest every person will just play first the bug in order to earn money and once they have been already earned on that website then probably they will just withdraw it then maybe after they earned a lot from those bugs eventually they will go and report the bugs after they benefit from it so that they will be able to have a win-win situation in which they have been able to earn as well as they already make a good deeds in which they help the company or the website to fix the bug so the people will not be able to take advantage of it.

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March 10, 2020, 10:54:27 AM
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It is quite obvious that any gambler except a particular few would exploit the bug for their own profit since its free money at the end of the day. Honestly, I would think hard before deciding what to do.

The site would need to compensate properly in order to avoid thinking of exploiting the site. I would chat with their live support(Won't disclose the bug) and negotiate the payment and then take a decision.


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March 10, 2020, 11:09:30 AM
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i would make some money for sure , i wonder if that sport-book would process my withdrawal , generally thats what happens they freeze the withdrawal of those bet slips if they dont do then make some money   
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March 10, 2020, 11:11:54 AM
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If I have only small funds in the gambling website and I don't used my original IP addresses or email address or any information that will connect to me, of course I'll try to benefit on it not unless at first they already some campaign for such bounty on bugs for their system.

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March 10, 2020, 11:22:15 AM
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lets be honest  . most of us would first benefit from the bug then lately we decide to tell the admins  , if your lucky you can get another reward  or bug bounty .

we tell before others discovered it and we dont want that to happen because we are greedy plus we dont want the site to get totally destroyed  . sounds funny but i think this is defenitely the case that would happen but before that,  i still dont think that someone will bet on an ended match  . high chance that you cant  .
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March 10, 2020, 11:28:00 AM
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Thank you for your input guys , this happened yesterday evening ,  and I contacted them and informed them about the bug straight away Smiley .

Have to admit that for a second it was "tempting", I was able to place a dummy bet with 0.001 btc , for a return of 0.036 ( guaranteed ) to test if it's actually working , and if the bets are being registered , which it did .  Then I went straight over to their live support to inform them about it . They've fixed the issue in a matter of minutes , and cancelled all tickets placed with the matches affected by the bug .  

I am hoping it qualifies me for some bug bounty  , might have saved them a decent amount of $ in losses , as it seemed they had no info regarding it , and if someone placed lets say a 0.1 btc bet , that would've been an insane 3.6 btc Cheesy.  

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March 10, 2020, 11:45:44 AM
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Exploooiiiittt.. Is what I would like to say, but if I actually know its a bug, I'd more likely to report it than exploit it. If I didn't know it was a bug and just thought of it as my luck, then maybe I would've, without knowledge, exploited it for what it is.

Thank you for your input guys , this happened yesterday evening ,  and I contacted them and informed them about the bug straight away Smiley .

Have to admit that for a second it was "tempting", I was able to place a dummy bet with 0.001 btc , for a return of 0.036 ( guaranteed ) to test if it's actually working , and if the bets are being registered , which it did .  Then I went straight over to their live support to inform them about it . They've fixed the issue in a matter of minutes , and cancelled all tickets placed with the matches affected by the bug . 

I am hoping it qualifies me for some bug bounty  , might have saved them a decent amount of $ in losses , as it seemed they had no info regarding it , and if someone placed lets say a 0.1 btc bet , that would've been an insane 3.6 btc Cheesy

I doubt that? The most you'd probably get would be a thanks and have a pleasant time gambling or some kind of message of sorts. Plus, even if you did exploit it, others would've probably discovered it one way or another and their support would most likely notice it by then. It's possible they may withdraw every bet done in that span of time and reset every account to what it was before the betting even began, and even if you did say you didn't know, it's still a matter of fact that you used the bug.

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March 10, 2020, 11:51:16 AM
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there is an high risk that you can't withdraw your money. there isn't anything to exploit since they can check your betting history.

bookmakers are not stupid, all bets have an audit record... if you win too much they can freeze your money (even if you're honest).
in a situation like this it's very hard earning any decent amount.

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March 10, 2020, 12:02:06 PM
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It's their duty to check all the bug from time to time, this is gambling, there could be a bug that no gambler can win and that will benefit them, so I will exploit then withdraw and tell them that there is a bug, I never know if in the past I play in a gambling site that has a bug where gamblers never win.

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March 10, 2020, 12:03:52 PM
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Have to admit that for a second it was "tempting", I was able to place a dummy bet with 0.001 btc , for a return of 0.036 ( guaranteed ) to test if it's actually working , and if the bets are being registered , which it did .  Then I went straight over to their live support to inform them about it . They've fixed the issue in a matter of minutes , and cancelled all tickets placed with the matches affected by the bug .  

I am hoping it qualifies me for some bug bounty  , might have saved them a decent amount of $ in losses , as it seemed they had no info regarding it , and if someone placed lets say a 0.1 btc bet , that would've been an insane 3.6 btc Cheesy.  

What a good man in this world full of fraudulently. I hope they'll be giving you a good amount of bounty exchange for the good deeds you have did to them, but the good thing was you did it without unwarrant of receiving a reward. The intention of kindess.

Back to the topic: If I were in that position I wouldn't tell it to them (just kidding).

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March 10, 2020, 12:15:09 PM
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So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug ,   or try to benefit from it ?
Practicality wise?of course i will play first the bug then if this really legit and profiting?then i will report after withdrawal .

i may sound greedy but i know how not fair gambling sites also so i will let them taste the Bitterness of their own medicine .

but it is depend on the situation because if the one involved is my favorite site?i think scenario will change and i will report the Bug as soon as i notice this.









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March 10, 2020, 12:25:31 PM
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So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug ,   or try to benefit from it ?
To be honest - Most of the time where human greed do sits in which they would surely choose to abuse that bug until it last and they do able to withdraw.

We might have different insights towards honesty thing but when we do talk about money then its a different story for most people.Some might report

but majority will benefit from it and we know that earning big is unusual or rare opportunities that do happen.

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March 10, 2020, 12:29:27 PM
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Some might be tempted to take advantage of the bug.
However, when the gambling operators know that you have exploited the said bug, you might not be able to withdraw your funds, just saying.

You're lucky if you can withdraw it without raising a flag, but most gambling site will take a look of every withdrawal, specially if you withdraw like more than 1 BTC to make sure that everything is right.
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March 10, 2020, 12:42:01 PM
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I agree with all you guys , I was offered just now by them a 20 mbtc prize for bringing this to their attention which is nice Smiley.

Now lets say I took the other path , abuse the bug for my own profits . I think this could work to a degree , sure if you'd place a 0.1-1 btc bet and win a huge amount this would start some investigations from the casino to check if the bets were legitimate , but here's the thing , this bug happened only on some games , so theoretically how I assume is that their software was lagging on receiving results from certain games , showing games that ended 5-10 minutes ago as still in play , min 75-80 etc with the option to still place live bets on them .  But since this was happening to lets say 1 % of the actual matches played at the time , ( software doing fine on showing the stats + betting situation on the rest ) it's very likely this might have slipped through verifications . Also there's the fact that smaller wd's , lets say under 1000 $ get processed almost instantly ( according to my withdrawals with them) , it's quite possible one could have done this quite a few times before raising some red flags.

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March 10, 2020, 01:01:19 PM
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So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug ,   or try to benefit from it ?
There are times that I'm greedy when it comes to money so when this kind of scenario happened to me and as long as I have money, I will try to bet on it but on a small amount only and then withdraw it then report the bug. At least it is a win-win situation for both the user and the owner Cheesy.

If it is a gambling site then they will not know your personal information (unless you shared it to them) but if they detected that you did bet on that bug then there is a chance that you're account will be banned or be removed without notice. Just report after you withdraw the money you have Cheesy.

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March 10, 2020, 01:09:23 PM
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To be honest I would try it out let's not be hypocrite here most of us would really use it to gain easy profit,
We could say that we would report the bug right now but once the bug actually happens we couldn't be so sure that we wouldn't use it.

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March 10, 2020, 01:14:12 PM
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So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug ,   or try to benefit from it ?
i am not a Greedy person and i am also not a total gambler but if given a chance?i will grab this opportunity to Make winning because gambling sites always taking our money so this is the chance for us to at least make some move to take money from them.
 and also i think this is normal way of treating the situation as i dont want to be Hypocrite to say i will not take advantage but the truth is?in reality they will do the same.

after getting some wins maybe i will consider telling them the bug and will not come back to that site again as they may see my past activities in their casino .

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March 10, 2020, 01:19:31 PM
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I placed a little bet last month and got a bet, but I couldn't get the prize.



I placed the bet in the 80th minute, so I guess the site didn't count my bet Grin
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