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March 11, 2020, 05:35:57 PM
Last edit: March 11, 2020, 06:48:22 PM by DdmrDdmr
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1. Introduction

Back in December 2018, I analysed the Merit/post ratio for all the main first-level boards (see Analysis – Merit per post per Section/Subsection). I wasn’t really planning on updating the information, but I did kind of say that I’d try to at some point when answering some PMs, and then additionally I saw a comment by o_e_l_e_o in the same line.

Averages change over time, and bearing that in mind, what I’ve now analysed covers the period 26/12/2018 .. 27/02/2020. I may at some point extend the data to previous dates, but if I do, it will only be for the Merit Dashboard.

The data is derived from:
- The aggregate of Merit TXs files.
- My scraping and classification of merited posts.
- The number of posts, as per snapshots on TheWayBackMachine.

Considerations:
- Since the number of posts is derived from TheWayBackMachine, I do not have a choice in the dates that are snapshotted there, thus the apparently weird date ranges. I try to make them as close as possible to a complete month, but the snapshots are simply not as one would wish.

- The post count number may differ slightly from that on the Post Count tab for local boards. This is due to some chosen periods of time now differing a day or so, and the fact that I may not have used the same snapshot on both (some dates have multiple snapshots).

- The number of post is the Net number of posts created between two snapshot dates. Net means: Created - Deleted – Moved +/- Reindex Adjustments. Most data points are consistent and logical with other month’s data, but some may be rather different. Averages may shift wildly one month due to post deletion, movement or reindexing.

- Averages are an indicator, but can also be deceiving (specially if post count varies). Because of the previous point pointed out, it is best to look not just at the summarized average merit/post, but also at the individual values over the past months.

For example, the below table states that the average merit/post on the Spanish Local board over the last 14 months is -0,07 merits/post. That seems wrong, and as an aggregate it is. What went on behind the scenes is that something like 51K posts were deleted/moved/reindex in between the 24/02/2019 and the 26/03/2019. This greatly impacts the calculus of the total merit/post ratio. It is best to look at the individual monthly averages there, and exclude the abnormal month. This can be done on the Merit Dashboard (which would place the average on 0,27 merits/post). Likewise, the 0,82 merit/post ratio last month was also due to post deletion/movement/reindex.

- Averages do not explain the story, and sometimes we really should dig down into the context of the data (i.e. massive post deletion), and even into the underlying childboards. For example, most of the local boards have a better merit/post ratio now than when I performed this exercise at the end of 2018. What’s changed? Well:

-- Merit Source reallocation
-- Large Decrease in the numer of posts, with émphasis on Altcoin/Ann sections
Those two factors alone shift averages quite a bit on local boards, so comparing now to then needs this context in mind.

In addition, WO is behind a great part of the merits in the Economics section. It would be very interesting to do this sort of analysis distinguishing between boards and childboards within, but that is an overkill task to perform.

Note: There is a fair share of manual work behind the scenes to retrieve the post count numbers. Though I am careful, I can make mistakes. If there is any specific weird figure that you’re interested in, I can revise it and try to bring a shed of light on its nature.


2. Merit per post



The above table summarized the average merit/post for the last 4 months of data I have. The lasts columns display the aggregate merit/post data for the period 26/12/2018 .. 27/02/2020.

When browsing the data, I’d check all 5 merit/post averages on each row. Some are pretty consistent such as Beginners & Help, but others need context such as the previously mentioned Spanish board and Meta (Meta is really more on the 0,7 Merits/post than the 0,93 displayed – the Art Contest drove the average to 4,15 merits/posts for a month).

Just to reiterate, sharp movements in averages have a contextual reason behind that the numbers do not tell.


3. Merit per post on the Merit Dashboard

Edit: There seems to be some issue visualizing on Tableau the content of the filters on the two below added tabs. I've never seen that happen before, and I'll need some time to see what the issue is (Ipad ok, pc empty filter combos). Values as there, but on a PC show in a tiny font size.

I’ve added the above table, with all the full 14 months of data to the Merit Dashboard (last 2 Tabs). There, you can play around with the filters to:

-   Delimit the comparison to a set of specific boards.
-   Delimit the months (i.e. exclude abnormal values).

The output is something like this:


https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/MeritperPost?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link


https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/MeritperPostIIChart?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

And yet again … values need context. The Spanish 0,82 reading is due to a number of deleted/moved/reindex posts (I personally would take that month’s reading as void when interpreting the data).

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March 11, 2020, 07:02:56 PM
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Looks like the merit is given the most on the boards deserving it the most: Meta, Beginners & Help, Technical Support, Serious Discussions and Project Development. That's good news. The Arabic speakers are apparently very generous too Cheesy Well done on the study.





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March 11, 2020, 08:03:12 PM
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DdmrDdmr, this is a great work done by you. It is highly informative and educative on how to receive merit on this highly educative and rewarding forum. But, I notice one thing, this forum is not for people that does not get things rightly. The posts that are merit have certain qualities I noticed
1. Informative and educating posts
2. Conviencing posts too. Some topics results to argument and one opponent can be convinced and gain and merit post
3. Replying to your topics. If you reply well to topics, some merit can be awarded as your are also meriting posts.
4. We explained posts with pictures, diagram, charts, graphs and the likes to demonstrate your posts. I even noticed this one about you and don't see it suprising when I saw DdmrDdmr merit because he explains with infographics.
5. I noticed some sections like market place that is less of spamming and plagiarism and very helpful to members is high in merit given.

In conclusion, if a thread or posts is well constructed, informative, educative, cohenrent and of good quality and also with infographics, the thread and posts will be well merited by members of this forum.

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March 12, 2020, 12:36:29 AM
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Looks like the merit is given the most on the boards deserving it the most: Meta, Beginners & Help, Technical Support, Serious Discussions and Project Development. That's good news. The Arabic speakers are apparently very generous too Cheesy Well done on the study.
Obviously anything that is"  help me please " related gets the most Merits.
I'm starting to make more efforts in those directions, helping newbies, photo, video tutorials, stuff like that is appreciated anywhere online i guess.
Local communities too are great since the majorities of those sections don't know English or simply suck at, that's why helping them there (native speakers) can gt them the most Merits.

Great Post OP, well done man, that's one serious quality posts, too bad i don't have Merits or else i would've gave you one  Grin
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March 12, 2020, 01:02:13 AM
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Obviously anything that is"  help me please " related gets the most Merits.
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The "help me please" thread replies usually deserve the most merit, so do the LoyceV-like threads. I always admire his work.

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I'm starting to make more efforts in those directions, helping newbies, photo, video tutorials, stuff like that is appreciated anywhere online i guess.
Local communities too are great since the majorities of those sections don't know English or simply suck at, that's why helping them there (native speakers) can gt them the most Merits.
It's a great start to start helping others, but don't rush in for the merits. From my experience, most merit comes from unexpected paths and posts. There are some high-quality posts I've intentionally made (they're well buried in the numerous pages of posts I have) to chase merits and it just didn't work. So yes, it mostly comes the natural way.





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March 12, 2020, 07:21:06 PM
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I'm starting to make more efforts in those directions, helping newbies, photo, video tutorials, stuff like that is appreciated anywhere online i guess.
Local communities too are great since the majorities of those sections don't know English or simply suck at, that's why helping them there (native speakers) can gt them the most Merits.
It's a great start to start helping others, but don't rush in for the merits. From my experience, most merit comes from unexpected paths and posts. There are some high-quality posts I've intentionally made (they're well buried in the numerous pages of posts I have) to chase merits and it just didn't work. So yes, it mostly comes the natural way.
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Totally correct, no need to rush, trying to make quality posts & by the time everything comes in bulk, Merits, Ranks & 3 ...
I've been quiet since 2017 after i lost a lot in crypto, lost faith in crypto & investing in crypto, but now i guess it's time to get back in & try to benefit from bitocointalk & guru members in here.
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