Coronavirus: International Updates

[LTU_btc]

Recently, the Internet is increasingly common information that in Russia when a person dies, his family is offered money to indicate the cause of death coronavirus. I do not know if you can trust such information, but statistics show that the number of infections continues to increase rapidly.

I don't understand what would be point of doing it. Why they would want to increase number of coronavirus victims in such way? I think that some countries are trying to hide or reduce number of infected people to show that they handle this situation very well.

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[JollyGood]

Thank you, I am sure I speak for all when I say we wish the same for you. This thread has gained traction relatively fast since I started it.

This is a very big thread, I hope that this crisis will be over soon. And all you people should stay at home! Keep the old people they are in truble !

[madnessteat]

I don't understand what would be point of doing it. Why they would want to increase number of coronavirus victims in such way? I think that some countries are trying to hide or reduce number of infected people to show that they handle this situation very well.

I do not see any real actions in Russia to counteract the coronavirus. All the actions of the authorities are aimed at setting fines (without introducing a regime of emergency in the country), using QR codes for the opportunity to go outside. A person can go out for a walk with a dog within 100 meters of the house, and a mother with a child cannot go out and will be fined about $200. A department for repairs has been opened in a large hypermarket and a sportswear department has been closed next door. In my opinion, such actions are similar to the delirium of a madman. I think that overstating the statistics on coronavirus mortality is used to create panic and vaccinate as many people as possible.

[BADecker]

BADecker: TP2 and TP4 class common disinfectants, such as Sodium Hypoclorite (or Calcium Hypoclorite), the same thing that has been used all over the world. Those are common disinfectants not patented chemicals. They may also use TP3 class (animal) disinfectant for things like farms.

These are some of the things that the MMS people recognize, use and suggest others use. They aren't MMS, however. But MMS (sodium chlorite) has been allowed for use all over the place in oxygen products, which don't really have oxygen in them at all.

The point is, the MMS people have been getting a lot of flack for talking MMS, Sodium Hypoclorite, and Calcium Hypoclorite, when all of the medical industry knows that they are disinfectants, and the nutrition industry has been ingesting some of them for at least 3 decades.


Why is the medical against them? Because they work inside people as well as outside. And we can't have something that works, now can we. https://g2churchnews.org/

[InvoKing]

Recently, the Internet is increasingly common information that in Russia when a person dies, his family is offered money to indicate the cause of death coronavirus. I do not know if you can trust such information, but statistics show that the number of infections continues to increase rapidly.

I don't understand what would be point of doing it. Why they would want to increase number of coronavirus victims in such way? I think that some countries are trying to hide or reduce number of infected people to show that they handle this situation very well.

Didn't understand from where madnessteat came with such information. Even if a person is dead, virus test can be conducted to verify if he was infected or not unless the health system is exhausted. For me i see Russia is doing a good job by testing more than 2 millions person, this can identify early the cases and help limiting Corona spread.

@LTU_btc i have a joke that isn't funny, an anchor asking a prime minister, you have 0 case of coronavirus what's the secret recipe that you have and want to share with other, he responded, well we have 0 test kits.
I edited it but it is reported that it happened in an African country, I didn't verify its source so I posted it as a dark? joke. To say that yes what you said is correct and the number of infections is underestimated in so many countries, except maybe in North Korea where the number of infected people return always to 0

[Tash]

Recently, the Internet is increasingly common information that in Russia when a person dies, his family is offered money to indicate the cause of death coronavirus. I do not know if you can trust such information, but statistics show that the number of infections continues to increase rapidly.

Not only in Russia is money to be made from the COVID plandemic.

Lets remember 80-90% of patients put on ventilator die.
US: Hospitals Get Paid $13K to List Patients as COVID-19 and $39K to Put Them on a Ventilator

Burundi only started testing resently 1 died so far, doing better than most.
And North Korea is not wiped from the map without testing.



As of April 21 China neighbours countries and others  (San Marino 40 deceased from population of 33930)

World	Died per Million		China neighbours	Died per Million
San Marino	1179		Russia	3
Belgium	518		Kazakhstan	1
Andora	479		Kyrgyzstan	1
Spain	455		Afghanistan	0.9
Italy	408		Pakistan	0.9
France	319		India	0.5
UK	255		Myanmar	0.09
Netherlands	229		Bhutan	0
Switzerland	171		Laos	0
Ireland	148		Mongolia	0
US	137		Nepal	0
Iran	63		Tajikistan	0
Canada	49		Vietnam	0
Brazil	13		North Korea	0
China	3		---
Australia	3		Hong Kong	0.5
S. Africa	1		Taiwan	0.3
Ethiopia	0.03		Macao	0

[LTU_btc]

I do not see any real actions in Russia to counteract the coronavirus. All the actions of the authorities are aimed at setting fines (without introducing a regime of emergency in the country), using QR codes for the opportunity to go outside. A person can go out for a walk with a dog within 100 meters of the house, and a mother with a child cannot go out and will be fined about $200. A department for repairs has been opened in a large hypermarket and a sportswear department has been closed next door. In my opinion, such actions are similar to the delirium of a madman. I think that overstating the statistics on coronavirus mortality is used to create panic and vaccinate as many people as possible.

I try to folllow what's going on in Russia and I don't think that they are doing something fundamentally wrong. Yes, not everything is good, there is some mistakes made, IMO they reacted too slow and imposed lockdown later than they had to do it. And I doubt that they want to make panic in order to vaccinate as many people as possible. Mainly it's because way to early to talk about vaccine from coronavirus.

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@LTU_btc i have a joke that isn't funny, an anchor asking a prime minister, you have 0 case of coronavirus what's the secret recipe that you have and want to share with other, he responded, well we have 0 test kits.
I edited it but it is reported that it happened in an African country, I didn't verify its source so I posted it as a dark? joke. To say that yes what you said is correct and the number of infections is underestimated in so many countries, except maybe in North Korea where the number of infected people return always to 0

This joke is so true. There is still some countries with 0 COVID-19 cases what isn't possible probably. Interesting how many tests thay have made. I think these numbers is close to 0. I heard that North Korea don't even have tests for Coronavirus...

[madnessteat]

I try to folllow what's going on in Russia and I don't think that they are doing something fundamentally wrong. Yes, not everything is good, there is some mistakes made, IMO they reacted too slow and imposed lockdown later than they had to do it. And I doubt that they want to make panic in order to vaccinate as many people as possible. Mainly it's because way to early to talk about vaccine from coronavirus.

There is not a word about self-isolation in the legal field of the Russian Federation. No one has the right to prohibit the movement of a person unless an emergency event or emergency situation has been introduced in the country. Apparently, the Government did not want to introduce it because it was afraid to take responsibility for all contracts which, if an emergency situation was introduced, would be invalidated.

Crime and robbery rates had risen in many cities.

I get all the information in the telegram chats because the media simply do not let this information go on the air.

[LTU_btc]

There is not a word about self-isolation in the legal field of the Russian Federation. No one has the right to prohibit the movement of a person unless an emergency event or emergency situation has been introduced in the country. Apparently, the Government did not want to introduce it because it was afraid to take responsibility for all contracts which, if an emergency situation was introduced, would be invalidated.

Crime and robbery rates had risen in many cities.

I get all the information in the telegram chats because the media simply do not let this information go on the air.

I can say that situation in my country is almost same. Government imposed quarantine without emergency situation. It actually goes against Constitution and break freedom of people. But IMO, people should understand that situation is serious and stay in self-isolation without emergency situation.
But I read that robbery rates decreased significantly because people stay at home. But I'm afraid about what will happen after quarantine, because many people will lose jobs and I'm sure that criminal rates will increase.
And yeah, knowing media in Russia, it's nothing surprising that they hide negative news.

[madnessteat]

And yeah, knowing media in Russia, it's nothing surprising that they hide negative news.

The most interesting thing is that in many telegram chats and social networks there are polls of this kind "do you know about the deaths of your acquaintances because of coronavirus?" and in most cases people answer that they have not faced such situations. I have more faith in such polls than in the media because the media are trying to manipulate us and this has been proven many times.

[Powermine]

And yeah, knowing media in Russia, it's nothing surprising that they hide negative news.

The most interesting thing is that in many telegram chats and social networks there are polls of this kind "do you know about the deaths of your acquaintances because of coronavirus?" and in most cases people answer that they have not faced such situations. I have more faith in such polls than in the media because the media are trying to manipulate us and this has been proven many times.

I'm from Spain, and already 4 neighbours they dies for COVID19. although it's true with the traditional media they're clearly being manipulated. So it's complicated I think to measure this with surveys, maybe when we see the balance of population through metrics as people die with their ID number, we can make a real balance.

[BADecker]

And yeah, knowing media in Russia, it's nothing surprising that they hide negative news.

The most interesting thing is that in many telegram chats and social networks there are polls of this kind "do you know about the deaths of your acquaintances because of coronavirus?" and in most cases people answer that they have not faced such situations. I have more faith in such polls than in the media because the media are trying to manipulate us and this has been proven many times.

I'm from Spain, and already 4 neighbours they dies for COVID19. although it's true with the traditional media they're clearly being manipulated. So it's complicated I think to measure this with surveys, maybe when we see the balance of population through metrics as people die with their ID number, we can make a real balance.

The point is that nobody knows for a fact what your neighbors died from. The testing for Covid-19 is way too complex and detailed to use on average people. The tests used show that they died from something in the family of Coronavirus. That's all. They are lying if they tell you that they KNOW that it was Covid-19.

[Tash]

And yeah, knowing media in Russia, it's nothing surprising that they hide negative news.

The most interesting thing is that in many telegram chats and social networks there are polls of this kind "do you know about the deaths of your acquaintances because of coronavirus?" and in most cases people answer that they have not faced such situations. I have more faith in such polls than in the media because the media are trying to manipulate us and this has been proven many times.

I'm from Spain, and already 4 neighbours they dies for COVID19. although it's true with the traditional media they're clearly being manipulated. So it's complicated I think to measure this with surveys, maybe when we see the balance of population through metrics as people die with their ID number, we can make a real balance.

Have they been on ventilators, what medication did they receive...
When did Spain become a bottom 10 country in world health.

[philipma1957laptop]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Deaths:
193,227



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

New York

Deaths per Million

1063

The worst numbers are New York

New York claims 2.9 million out of 19 million have antibodies,

so 19/2.9 = 6.55 x 1063 = 6964 in a million death rate  is your  worst case.

that is 0.00696 x 8,000,000,000 = 55,715,862 world wide dead  and about 10x need a hospital stay.  This is what happens  if the world says fuck it  lets move on and fully ignore this.

All numbers based on the idea the New York is true and not lying.

It can only be less then the numbers above.

worldometer claims 67,890,000 births each year.  so  at worst  if we say fuck off to the virus

67-55 = 12 million plus not counting other deaths say 25 mill  so 12-25  the wolrd has a 13 million haircut.

or every one agrees to stay in place and spread the 55 million dead over 2 year not one.

I smell a lot of lies.

[madnessteat]

I'm from Spain, and already 4 neighbours they dies for COVID19. although it's true with the traditional media they're clearly being manipulated. So it's complicated I think to measure this with surveys, maybe when we see the balance of population through metrics as people die with their ID number, we can make a real balance.

Haha. Instead of using an ID number, let's implant each person with a chip to fully control them.

If you start analyzing information from different sources, you will realize that very strange things are happening all over the world and this coronavirus is the biggest world scam.

[Artemis3]

UK considers extending distancing measures for one year. Starts trials of vaccine in humans.
UK: 148,377 cases, 20,319 deaths.
Brazil governors relaxing quarantines 407 deaths in a single day. Justice minister resigns (following Health minister).
Brazil: 52,995 cases, 3,670 deaths, 27,655 recoveries.
26 million people in America lost their job
Two domestic cats in New York with COVID-19
50 thousand deaths in the USA
800 crewman from Roosevelt carrier are COVID-19 positive
Several cases of poisoning with disinfectant after Trump's "sarcastic" comment.
USA: 927,316 cases, 52,415 deaths, 101,315 recoveries.
10 new cases in Venezuela
Venezuela 318 cases, 10 deaths, 128 recoveries.
Peru: 21,648 cases, 634 deaths, 7,496 recoveries.
Vaccine study by volunteers approved in Germany
Germany: 155,054 cases, 5,767 deaths, 99,862 recoveries.
Spain 14 year old or younger allowed to go out
Spain: 223,759 cases, 22,902 deaths, 95,708 recoveries.
Ecuador prepares to resume economic activity
Ecuador: 22,719 cases, 576 deaths, 1,366 recoveries.
Colombia extends confinement until May 11. Outbreak inside mental clinic in Bogotá.
Colombia: 4,881 cases, 225 deaths, 1,003 recoveries.
Mexico with over 1 thousand deaths
Mexico: 12,872 cases, 1,221 deaths, 2,627 recoveries.
Chile plans to return to normality
Chile: 12,306 cases, 174 deaths, 6,327 recoveries.
Russia warns unemployment will double
Russia: 74,588 cases, 681 deaths, 6,250 recoveries.

[BADecker]

UK considers extending distancing measures for one year. Starts trials of vaccine in humans.
UK: 148,377 cases, 20,319 deaths.
Brazil governors relaxing quarantines 407 deaths in a single day. Justice minister resigns (following Health minister).
Brazil: 52,995 cases, 3,670 deaths, 27,655 recoveries.
26 million people in America lost their job
Two domestic cats in New York with COVID-19
50 thousand deaths in the USA
800 crewman from Roosevelt carrier are COVID-19 positive
Several cases of poisoning with disinfectant after Trump's "sarcastic" comment.
USA: 927,316 cases, 52,415 deaths, 101,315 recoveries.
10 new cases in Venezuela
Venezuela 318 cases, 10 deaths, 128 recoveries.
Peru: 21,648 cases, 634 deaths, 7,496 recoveries.
Vaccine study by volunteers approved in Germany
Germany: 155,054 cases, 5,767 deaths, 99,862 recoveries.
Spain 14 year old or younger allowed to go out
Spain: 223,759 cases, 22,902 deaths, 95,708 recoveries.
Ecuador prepares to resume economic activity
Ecuador: 22,719 cases, 576 deaths, 1,366 recoveries.
Colombia extends confinement until May 11. Outbreak inside mental clinic in Bogotá.
Colombia: 4,881 cases, 225 deaths, 1,003 recoveries.
Mexico with over 1 thousand deaths
Mexico: 12,872 cases, 1,221 deaths, 2,627 recoveries.
Chile plans to return to normality
Chile: 12,306 cases, 174 deaths, 6,327 recoveries.
Russia warns unemployment will double
Russia: 74,588 cases, 681 deaths, 6,250 recoveries.

Deaths, perhaps. Coronavirus or Covid-19 deaths? Lies.

[JollyGood]

- The global death toll more than 200,000

- UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson will return to work on Monday 27th April 2020 after being hospitalised because of coronavirus infection

- UK statistics shows more than 20,000 people died in hospital with coronavirus

- German police arrest protesters in Berlin on Saturday for flouting lock down measures. About 1,000 people participated in the demonstration against lock down rules

[Naida_BR]

UK considers extending distancing measures for one year. Starts trials of vaccine in humans.
UK: 148,377 cases, 20,319 deaths.
Brazil governors relaxing quarantines 407 deaths in a single day. Justice minister resigns (following Health minister).
Brazil: 52,995 cases, 3,670 deaths, 27,655 recoveries.
26 million people in America lost their job
Two domestic cats in New York with COVID-19
50 thousand deaths in the USA
800 crewman from Roosevelt carrier are COVID-19 positive
Several cases of poisoning with disinfectant after Trump's "sarcastic" comment.
USA: 927,316 cases, 52,415 deaths, 101,315 recoveries.
10 new cases in Venezuela
Venezuela 318 cases, 10 deaths, 128 recoveries.
Peru: 21,648 cases, 634 deaths, 7,496 recoveries.
Vaccine study by volunteers approved in Germany
Germany: 155,054 cases, 5,767 deaths, 99,862 recoveries.
Spain 14 year old or younger allowed to go out
Spain: 223,759 cases, 22,902 deaths, 95,708 recoveries.
Ecuador prepares to resume economic activity
Ecuador: 22,719 cases, 576 deaths, 1,366 recoveries.
Colombia extends confinement until May 11. Outbreak inside mental clinic in Bogotá.
Colombia: 4,881 cases, 225 deaths, 1,003 recoveries.
Mexico with over 1 thousand deaths
Mexico: 12,872 cases, 1,221 deaths, 2,627 recoveries.
Chile plans to return to normality
Chile: 12,306 cases, 174 deaths, 6,327 recoveries.
Russia warns unemployment will double
Russia: 74,588 cases, 681 deaths, 6,250 recoveries.

One year of social distancing measures is going to be a pain for the citizens in the UK.
Seems like the US is the country that suffers the most these days. I wonder what would be the reason that the virus came to the US so late when they have so many people going back and forth to China and those countries are kind of close to each other.

[squatz1]

I think it's important for people to look a bit beyond just looking at the headlines saying that the US has the most coronavirus cases. Because while that is true, it's not taking into account population differences that are present.

Ex: Obviously the US (360m or so people) has more Corona deaths then the Netherlands (17.28m)

But if you look into this a bit further, you're able to see the coronavirus deaths / infections per 1m people in the country. This is what we would call - adjusting for population differences.

When using this, you see that the US has 2976 cases and 167 deaths per 1m people. The Netherlands has 2209 cases (less) and 261 deaths (more deaths) per 1m. So yes, while the situation in the US -- especially in NY -- is dire, it's important to remember that raw numbers aren't always everything.