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Yeah these kind of changing in the rules it’s really needed to apply all of the bounty campaign. Because spammers entry so much in every campaig. I think it’s new things started from julerz12 manager because first time i have been experiencing it. Too small entry in the twitter campaign may be it’s around 48-50 participants within 140+. Definitely it’s happened for such new authentication formula. All of Spam/Fake entry is reducing. Real hunters will beneficial for these rules.
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March 14, 2020, 07:25:01 PM |
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Exactly, even for genuine bounty hunters it's bit difficult to choose the bounties due to huge number of scammers hence I prefer not to join any bounty until I saw Geoma bounty by Julerz as these restrictions will keep scammers at bay and even after so many hurdles one scammer still filled google form with my username and his ERC address and I am thankful to Julerzs for kicking him out.
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Only bounty managers that understand such initiative, will be able to deploy unique methods that could eliminate those bot accounts. Julerz came up with his own initiative and it is working. looking at the Geoma bounty spreadsheet, it shows that his hypothesis worked. Masulum is another bounty manager who also understands how to run a bounty that is free from bot accounts. These things are not so easy, but at the end, they pay off. the reason being that, it reduces stress on the part of te manager and on te part of bounty participants, only genuine participants receive their rewards.
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March 14, 2020, 09:07:06 PM |
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Frankly speaking, the bounty manager has done the right thing by escrow the tokens in his confer to ensure bounty hunters are paid their dues after their bounty ends. We the hunters had been used and dumped by many, this can be an alternative to curb the issue of participating in a bounty and at the end go home with nothing. Efforts and resources wasted just for the bounty, any manager who can't follow suit should resign from being a bounty manager on this forum. We need our time count on any single bounty we participate.
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March 14, 2020, 09:34:03 PM |
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I more care about the quality of the whole project no matter the bounty manager. julerz12 is of course one of the most precious bounty managers but also he managed unsuccesful projects like Codex or Vfarm. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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March 14, 2020, 09:47:56 PM |
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Hello guys, In a bid to fight bounty scammers and spammers on the telegram campaign, there is a great wisdom in the format adopted by julerz12 in his GEOMA bounty campaign ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223521.0), you are first told to answer questions on a google format just to test your simple knowledge on Cryptocurrency and then still require you to apply on google form together with Proof-Of-Authentication on the bounty thread. Some hunters just quickly come to the google application form, deplore several telegrams or even steal some bitcointalk users telegram username who are not participating in telegram campaign, and use it to cheat. This is why we do see over 2k-8k telegram applicants on a single campaign on the spreadsheet which sometimes will give the BM and his team a hard time verifying and sorting out real workers from cheaters and spammers, they may not be able to fully do a perfect job. This style employed by Julerz in GEOMA bounty campaign is a step in the right direction which I believe has helped to chase off some telegram scammers and spammers off this campaign and thereby reducing applicants to only serious campaigners and at the end will lessen the overall job of the BM. There were days I got discouraged seeing over 8K in some telegram campaigns. Let me hear your suggestions too. Thanks.
Let me add a link to the questions ( https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfDi-1RXiX-G37RLcEAs9RN8UUiXS8mANJ8T_vWJHYSuPFykg/viewform), on the application form, there is equally a code you must enter to proof you are not a bot. Yeah, such a scheme makes filtering fake accounts task easier, but it also filters all those guys who don't know English well or doesn't want to pass this exam ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But maybe it's even better for the campaign to filter those ones.
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Some bounty hunters would just say, "that's another job!"... most of them just want it simple and even if there are forms actually that every bounty hunters will fill up, that does not eliminate the cheats.. I think the problem here is more on the side of the developers as they have more scams done compared to the bounty hunters, but I am not saying the effort is useless, of course it's useful.
Maybe the main objective of the team to require Julerz12 asking the participants about these questions is for them to at least make a research first about the project so there can be a traffic right away and some potential investors if they find GEOMA a potentially project.remember that there are bounty hunters that investors as well so having them read their white paper can lure them to invest. I more care about the quality of the whole project no matter the bounty manager. julerz12 is of course one of the most precious bounty managers but also he managed unsuccesful projects like Codex or Vfarm. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Lol no one is free from failed project ,even the most popular one can sometimes do manage those fail or scams because that is part of the journey .and also scammers are great on this kind.
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March 17, 2020, 02:18:56 PM |
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Btw, instead of forcing bounty hunters to pass KYC (as a method to get rid of bots or multi accounts), the project can ask hunters to answer few question about the project they promoted. That would be fair for both of the side. Project will know what people learned, hunters would knows what there promoting and not just doing automatic retweet/share/shitpost just to make weekly minimum requirements.
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Honestly this is not the first time I will hear about this very tactics of asking participants few questions before joining a campaign, I joined liquidapps Airdrops in early January and before you can join you have to answer few questions right or you are out
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March 17, 2020, 02:45:30 PM |
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Julerz12 is a fast learner I guess, getting paid and making profit out of your bounty reward are both different things, I've seen and learn some new things about bounties, quantity matters the most not quality, even if you join a quality bounty project and get paid you can earn just fee dollars, but most money I make from bounties are from low rated projects
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March 17, 2020, 02:51:43 PM |
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It is commendable because it reduces the possibility of spammers joining campaign but in the other way round, it would have been better if we have other great strategies of also protecting hunters by getting paid and not scammed after participating in a campaign. I understand in some platform such as bountyhive, bounty participant tokens are gifted to the manager even before the campaign end and get distributed when the campaign end
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March 17, 2020, 03:36:26 PM |
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It is commendable because it reduces the possibility of spammers joining campaign but in the other way round, it would have been better if we have other great strategies of also protecting hunters by getting paid and not scammed after participating in a campaign. I understand in some platform such as bountyhive, bounty participant tokens are gifted to the manager even before the campaign end and get distributed when the campaign end
Agree to that, this step by Julerz is really commendable as it will bring those spammers and bots not to be allowed joining campaigns who have system like this, extra efforts paid up. Good addition in how to determine bots and real participants. It's also good if the managers are open and adopt such efforts in order to clean up each projects that they will going to handle.
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Really smart from julerz12 out there. It would drop the participants that we normally see in campaigns but hey who likes the bots or the participants who doesn't promotes the project properly. Plus it also ensures that bounty hunters who join the campaign have the basic knowledge about cryptocurrency which is must. I was thinking of maybe like captcha thing but this idea is on one step ahead with ensuring participants know the basics and thats what I like the most. Kudos to Julerz12.
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March 17, 2020, 04:17:20 PM |
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Well, at least we see a new way to reduce scammers and spammers. I think if this has a good effect or a good effect maybe other managers will implement this system. I also don't know about this because I didn't join the campaign maybe I will look at the thread to make sure myself.
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if that really can help reduce the spammers in the bounty then all BMs have to do the same way as julerz and I also agree that only those who understand crypto or blockchain join bounty so scammers and spammers will really go
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March 17, 2020, 04:32:49 PM |
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if that really can help reduce the spammers in the bounty then all BMs have to do the same way as julerz and I also agree that only those who understand crypto or blockchain join bounty so scammers and spammers will really go
Are you sure in a way like that can reduce spammers? however, they will stay alive and there will always be a bounty manager who makes the rules easier and easier for bounty participants. when the method is successful maybe other managers will imitate it. but every manager has his way and style in managing his campaign.
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yeap, Julerz is one of the best campaign manager and hist style of managing bounty is really good even he count stakes after finished the week.Yes Geoma Dao bounty campaign joining rules is best.Because many spammers use bot to do bounty campaign but in this case shit people can't do anything.bounty managers should post bounty in this ways to prevent spammers and bot.
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Answering questions before participating on bounty campaigns ad did by BM Julerz GEOMA DAO is quit interesting thereby reducing the number of spammers from campaign,. Understand something,, Julerz said try to answer even if you get it wrong,, to me he was just trying to know how good you are in the cryptosphere. Some hunters just know how to participate in campaign and never know what blockchain and cryptocurrency is all about, so I think providing a suitable questions/interviews before joining bounty campaign is good. Thanks.
This is not the first time when a BM asked some questions to bounty hunter before joining! I saw this system in 2017, some managers followed this but most of them later stopped, because it is not that helpful to the project. To be honest I haven’t seen any promising thing in Geoma Dao bounty! But Julerz is one of the trusted bounty manager!
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I really like this change and really support BM who works hard against a cheater. As a bounty hunter, as much as possible we help BM if we find fraud, this is to create a fair community, so that everyone will get the maximum reward without cheating. This must be based on each other's awareness. I see a new trend in the bounty campaign, the existence of POA, merit requirements, effective enough to select bounty participants who are truly competent. So that the purpose of holding a bounty campaign is truly achieved, not only in terms of quantity but also quality. Come together to realize this.
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I see a new trend in the bounty campaign, the existence of POA, merit requirements, effective enough to select bounty participants who are truly competent. So that the purpose of holding a bounty campaign is truly achieved, not only in terms of quantity but also quality. Come together to realize this.
I've only saw this in Hhampuz signature campaign were he asked to have "minimum 5 merit earned during last 120 days". 5 merit in 120 days is nothing for ranks, that are allowed to participate. I'd better switch it to 5-10 merit in last 30 days. On the other hand, this is also no the solution, as people in their proof post next to "EARNED merit in the last 120 days:" write overall merit earned number or "slightly" increased real amount earned in 120 days ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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