CS:GO and Betting

[ImThour]

I am sure you guys are aware that most of the tournaments are now being played Online. Many of the noted teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. Do you think this will cause any ups-downs in the actual result of the matches? Also, I wonder how will Astralis play Online as I am not sure if i have seen any of their match being played Online before in 2019-20.

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[kryptqnick]

I am sure you guys are aware that most of the tournaments are now being played Online. Many of the noted teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. Do you think this will cause any ups-downs in the actual result of the matches? Also, I wonder how will Astralis play Online as I am not sure if i have seen any of their match being played Online before in 2019-20.

I don't see any problem with such tournaments going online. Unlike soccer or basketball, people that compete at CS: GO don't really need physical space to perform their actions, and they're doing everything on their laptops anyway, right? People won't be able to watch them in a stadium or something, sure, but maybe that's even better for the contestants as they'll be less distracted than usual. At the same time, the win wouldn't feel the same without all that support, so I am not sure.
As for the concerns about playing worse online, it's hard for me to get it when it comes to a game like CS: GO.

[ImThour]

You are clearly wrong. I am sure you are not aware how CS:GO events are played or implemented. First of all, you cannot play Tier 1 events on Laptops. Secondly, teams do perform different Online and on LAN.

[JohnBitCo]

You are clearly wrong. I am sure you are not aware how CS:GO events are played or implemented. First of all, you cannot play Tier 1 events on Laptops. Secondly, teams do perform different Online and on LAN.

There is hell lot of difference when you play CS:GO on the Lan or over the internet online. You will experience a lot of lag if you switch from LAN to online. Also if you are betting on any e-sports, you should first identify if the tournament is being played through LAN or Online.

[ImThour]

You are clearly wrong. I am sure you are not aware how CS:GO events are played or implemented. First of all, you cannot play Tier 1 events on Laptops. Secondly, teams do perform different Online and on LAN.

There is hell lot of difference when you play CS:GO on the Lan or over the internet online. You will experience a lot of lag if you switch from LAN to online. Also if you are betting on any e-sports, you should first identify if the tournament is being played through LAN or Online.

That is what i said. The above guy says there should not be any difference in LAN and Online performance.

[Wexnident]

I don't see any problem with such tournaments going online. Unlike soccer or basketball, people that compete at CS: GO don't really need physical space to perform their actions, and they're doing everything on their laptops anyway, right? People won't be able to watch them in a stadium or something, sure, but maybe that's even better for the contestants as they'll be less distracted than usual. At the same time, the win wouldn't feel the same without all that support, so I am not sure.
As for the concerns about playing worse online, it's hard for me to get it when it comes to a game like CS: GO.

Wireless gameplay and LAN gameplay can actually have quite a huge difference in online gaming, especially an fps game at that. Plus, the audience isn't really a distraction or anything, pro players wear an insulating type of earbud in their ears so that they are unable to hear audience reactions while still hearing audio from the game itself. Additionally, there's a setting of 128 tick servers and 64 tick servers. Yes, you can both play online and LAN, but having a LAN connection while playing on 128 tick can make a huge difference in playing, especially if you're up against other pro players.

[jademaxsuy]

It is much better when the tournents using lan rather than online. When on LAN it is much faster than online and players won't experience lag while on online players can experience lag so that means players will need much faster internet connection and then they will play the same as lan.

[ralle14]

Astralis' online results are good enough if we're talking about their qualification matches from last year. Now with their current form slowly regressing after the iem tournament I don't know if they'll maintain their top rank.

It'll affect the results of some teams for sure since a lot of tier 1 teams are used to playing on lan but they could start adapting later on if more tournaments switches to online.

[FontSeli]

I am sure you guys are aware that most of the tournaments are now being played Online. Many of the noted teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. Do you think this will cause any ups-downs in the actual result of the matches? Also, I wonder how will Astralis play Online as I am not sure if i have seen any of their match being played Online before in 2019-20.

In professional terms there is no difference for the players where they play. On the contrary, in the absence of a large number of spectators, it is easier for players to overcome the excitement and they will play more steadily, especially those players who are not used to playing in public.
The only thing that can have a serious impact is the speed of the Internet and ping, if the teams have these indicators will differ, then the advantage will be for those who have these indicators better.

[Eugenar]

I am sure you guys are aware that most of the tournaments are now being played Online. Many of the noted teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. Do you think this will cause any ups-downs in the actual result of the matches? Also, I wonder how will Astralis play Online as I am not sure if i have seen any of their match being played Online before in 2019-20.

Well, playing in online tournament and playing in LAN or practice game are really different thing, the pressure is really different, I am once played on LOL tournament on our barangay and it is really different feeling when playing LAN in playing in the tournament because there are so many people that are watching you, but if you played so many times in online tournament there will be no nervous anymore on you. You will just need to be comfortable while playing because nervous will change the way you play.

Playing online tournament is really good for everyone, some online games are already included in e-sports game because in online games, we are not only playing, we are using our skills and minds that will strengthen the way we think.

[FontSeli]

I am sure you guys are aware that most of the tournaments are now being played Online. Many of the noted teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. Do you think this will cause any ups-downs in the actual result of the matches? Also, I wonder how will Astralis play Online as I am not sure if i have seen any of their match being played Online before in 2019-20.

Well, playing in online tournament and playing in LAN or practice game are really different thing, the pressure is really different, I am once played on LOL tournament on our barangay and it is really different feeling when playing LAN in playing in the tournament because there are so many people that are watching you, but if you played so many times in online tournament there will be no nervous anymore on you. You will just need to be comfortable while playing because nervous will change the way you play.

Playing online tournament is really good for everyone, some online games are already included in e-sports game because in online games, we are not only playing, we are using our skills and minds that will strengthen the way we think.

When you participated in LOL tournaments, was there a noticeable difference in technical issues ( Internet speed, ping) when playing live on stage and when playing on LAN?

[Hippocrypto]

I am sure you guys are aware that most of the tournaments are now being played Online. Many of the noted teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. Do you think this will cause any ups-downs in the actual result of the matches? Also, I wonder how will Astralis play Online as I am not sure if i have seen any of their match being played Online before in 2019-20.

Well, playing in online tournament and playing in LAN or practice game are really different thing, the pressure is really different, I am once played on LOL tournament on our barangay and it is really different feeling when playing LAN in playing in the tournament because there are so many people that are watching you, but if you played so many times in online tournament there will be no nervous anymore on you. You will just need to be comfortable while playing because nervous will change the way you play.

Playing online tournament is really good for everyone, some online games are already included in e-sports game because in online games, we are not only playing, we are using our skills and minds that will strengthen the way we think.

When you participated in LOL tournaments, was there a noticeable difference in technical issues ( Internet speed, ping) when playing live on stage and when playing on LAN?

Pretty sure that's the most concerns of all online players particular on different parts of the asian countries. E-sports wouldn't be a problem when there's no sudden fluctuations of internet speed, but that's a worst situations with respect to latency issues. What's very alarming and unfair is that players couldn't get much real time when they're living at the country with unstable internet connectivity.

[FontSeli]

Pretty sure that's the most concerns of all online players particular on different parts of the asian countries. E-sports wouldn't be a problem when there's no sudden fluctuations of internet speed, but that's a worst situations with respect to latency issues. What's very alarming and unfair is that players couldn't get much real time when they're living at the country with unstable internet connectivity.

Even the problem may not lie in the speed of the Internet, it is now quite good in most countries of the world. The problem may lie in the fact that the servers on which the game will be held are located closer to whom. And it may turn out that a certain team's ping will be significantly lower, which will give them an advantage. And I know that for games like CS:GO, ping is very important and has a strong influence on the game.

[shoreno]

yes it does have an effect . playing online can cause some lags and delays but the advantage is that you dont see you oponents around whiles there is also lan competition where you and your opponents are on the same place  .

that can cause you some pressure and you cant foccus to play more but the advantage is that the connecttion is fast   . we can consider these if we want to bet but idk if its possible to know these data's before the match making but what mostly i see are lan tournaments  .

[ralle14]

yes it does have an effect . playing online can cause some lags and delays but the advantage is that you dont see you oponents around whiles there is also lan competition where you and your opponents are on the same place  .

that can cause you some pressure and you cant foccus to play more but the advantage is that the connecttion is fast   . we can consider these if we want to bet but idk if its possible to know these data's before the match making but what mostly i see are lan tournaments  .

The pressure these teams get from playing lan matches don't last very long. With enough time and experience these players will get used to the same atmosphere until it doesn't affect them anymore just like how others play at pubs.

Currently, some online matches on the top level seem like a coin flip since a lot of them have been playing on lan recently. Earlier Astralis lost to NIP in ESL and we might even see more upsets in the next few days.

[boyptc]

Cs go is online so basically, there's no need to worry about the experience that they'll get whether they play LAN (tournaments) or online.

These professional teams does even have the stable internet connection so there will be no problem if tournaments are held online.

[FontSeli]

yes it does have an effect . playing online can cause some lags and delays but the advantage is that you dont see you oponents around whiles there is also lan competition where you and your opponents are on the same place  .

that can cause you some pressure and you cant foccus to play more but the advantage is that the connecttion is fast   . we can consider these if we want to bet but idk if its possible to know these data's before the match making but what mostly i see are lan tournaments  .

If the tournament organizers manage to create the same conditions for all participants, then there is nothing wrong with LAN tournament. And this format of tournaments has a huge advantage - it is the absence of spectators in the stands and means that the players worry much less.

[dothebeats]

If you feel that a team wouldn't perform better online, don't bet.

There is a term called 'onliner' for tier 2 teams who perform really well on online qualifiers but are shit on LAN. There are too many teams to mention that fits the category, though some of them are no longer together or just not joining competitions lately. Tier 1 teams generally are good on LAN and online tournaments. As for tier 2? Sketchy and inconsistent based on my observation for the past 4 years of betting into such matches.

[harizen]

Seriously? The lags or connectivity issues are still a big issue today that others currently see on these types of the tournament? That problem is already an old issue and I don't think online tournaments today will have connectivity-related problems or should I say only less. And besides, organizers already know this issue. Big or small competitions, internet issue is not a big deal anymore. Just look at the online feature of the classic Counter-Strike Source as a good example way back several years ago. No issues at all related to ping whatever the internet service provider is in different countries.

The difference between playing LAN and online for me is the experience handling the pressure and comfortability. I once a Counter-Strike and Special Force PH player and have experienced playing at big and small tournaments. Qualifying rounds to quarterfinals are done online. Semis to Finals will be on the stage in front of the audience. It's obvious that it's more comfortable when you are playing with your team on your own cafe'. No pressure at all. But when it comes to Semis, damn, suddenly nature changed. It was more pressured especially for the "first time". This affects the overall game performance of any player that will suffer a pressure no matter how good they are in the qualifying rounds. That's when having an experience is really a must. As they continue, these players can now handle the pressure and later on, it won't be a problem anymore.

As per OP's concerns, teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. I don't know how these teams performed overall but honestly, I can't think of an exact reason why they behave like that. For an experienced team, it should be no problem playing either online or LAN as they are used to it. Or maybe these teams just faced a much better team although they gave it all during their respective match.

[adzino]

I am sure you guys are aware that most of the tournaments are now being played Online. Many of the noted teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. Do you think this will cause any ups-downs in the actual result of the matches? Also, I wonder how will Astralis play Online as I am not sure if i have seen any of their match being played Online before in 2019-20.

Damn. It has been more than 5 years since I last played counter strike. Didn't valve but a ban on all kind of betting related to csgo? I remember receiving an email from one of the sites where they said that users items were stuck because valve but a mass ban on all of their betting trade bot account. Even I remember reading somewhere that cases were also being a problem since it was some sort of gambling.
Well, there is nothing much to do. They will have to face the disadvantage of playing bad online instead of LAN.