CS:GO and Betting

[batang_bitcoin]

Loot.bet CS season 6 has an active tournament today, they are having 2 match for this day.

Nemiga - Japa
Secret - HL

are you providing Predictions or what?

No I don't, I'm just telling you that despite the pandemic there's still a lot of games for CS:GO and other esports that we're playing and loving the scene.

Guys what are your thoughts on Fnatic reaching #1.

They deserve it but it will change in due time. It's about the rankings but it's not always at the top. There's a point system that gosugamer ranks and if Fnatic did ever reached being the top 1, that's good for them and it's an achievement for the org.
https://www.gosugamers.net/counterstrike/rankings

[finaleshot2016]

Guys what are your thoughts on Fnatic reaching #1.

Are you referring ESL pro league 11 or world ranking? Fnatic deserves for being #1 but I guess it's just luck since Astralis is not the opponent team in the finals.

If Astralis defeated Mouz in the semi-finals, probably Fnatic will lose in the finals. The rivalry between Fnatic and Astralis has already results, we all know that Astralis is better than any team in CS:GO. Mouz is very lucky in the first round of the fight to Astralis for having a score of 17-19. Astralis should have gained those points to be the #1 team, still, I have faith for them.

[greenvie99]

Hello there!

Tell me please is it true thatin CS:GO players can agree on the outcome of the game and thereby falsify the final? or is it just a rumor? Thanks

[batang_bitcoin]

Hello there!

Tell me please is it true thatin CS:GO players can agree on the outcome of the game and thereby falsify the final? or is it just a rumor? Thanks

Do you mean match fixing? it happened long time ago and that served as a lesson for the players that remains in the competitive scene of CS:GO. Note that I'm not that too updated with CS:GO because this is not my niche but I also play this game and be aware that this happened in other esports and sporting events too. There's a history of the banned players and you can have a look who are those people and how and the reason why they were banned. And some of them because of match fixing.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Banned_players

[Tate Jenkins]

Hello there!

Tell me please is it true thatin CS:GO players can agree on the outcome of the game and thereby falsify the final? or is it just a rumor? Thanks

Do you mean match fixing? it happened long time ago and that served as a lesson for the players that remains in the competitive scene of CS:GO. Note that I'm not that too updated with CS:GO because this is not my niche but I also play this game and be aware that this happened in other esports and sporting events too. There's a history of the banned players and you can have a look who are those people and how and the reason why they were banned. And some of them because of match fixing.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Banned_players

I also heard about this, and therefore for a long time doubted making bets on eSports. Thanks for the link, it was useful for me

[batang_bitcoin]

Hello there!

Tell me please is it true thatin CS:GO players can agree on the outcome of the game and thereby falsify the final? or is it just a rumor? Thanks

Do you mean match fixing? it happened long time ago and that served as a lesson for the players that remains in the competitive scene of CS:GO. Note that I'm not that too updated with CS:GO because this is not my niche but I also play this game and be aware that this happened in other esports and sporting events too. There's a history of the banned players and you can have a look who are those people and how and the reason why they were banned. And some of them because of match fixing.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Banned_players

I also heard about this, and therefore for a long time doubted making bets on eSports. Thanks for the link, it was useful for me

It's almost not happening anymore because the whole esports industry thing is getting wider and wider as it goes by so, the athletes or mainly the competitive and professional players are serious with their careers and won't allow themselves to be involved in this kind of scheme.
The teams or players that becomes part of this scheme lately are the rising talents or in short, the newly born talents with potential and it's been put into waste.

[finaleshot2016]

Hello there!

Tell me please is it true thatin CS:GO players can agree on the outcome of the game and thereby falsify the final? or is it just a rumor? Thanks

Do you mean match fixing? it happened long time ago and that served as a lesson for the players that remains in the competitive scene of CS:GO. Note that I'm not that too updated with CS:GO because this is not my niche but I also play this game and be aware that this happened in other esports and sporting events too. There's a history of the banned players and you can have a look who are those people and how and the reason why they were banned. And some of them because of match fixing.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Banned_players

I also heard about this, and therefore for a long time doubted making bets on eSports. Thanks for the link, it was useful for me

It's almost not happening anymore because the whole esports industry thing is getting wider and wider as it goes by so, the athletes or mainly the competitive and professional players are serious with their careers and won't allow themselves to be involved in this kind of scheme.
The teams or players that becomes part of this scheme lately are the rising talents or in short, the newly born talents with potential and it's been put into waste.

I guess match-fixing still occurs, it's being done pretty clean nowadays so that nobody can assess that kind of scheme. Not only in CS:GO, but also in other eSports tournaments, particularly in MOBA. Before they qualify for an international competition, every region competes for a slot. So if a strong team is able to exploit the entire bracket by match-fixing, they will select which team to represent the country with them in the international tournament. It's a cheap tactic to be used due to the extreme desperation of winning an international league with a huge pot.

[STT]

Hello there!

Tell me please is it true thatin CS:GO players can agree on the outcome of the game and thereby falsify the final? or is it just a rumor? Thanks

At top level play it would be nonsensical to do so, the pay off vs the livelihood these players have now is not worth it.    Its the end of them playing in CS pretty much, the reason is if found out and its often something will come out they will be banned.   Any player banned cannot take part in valve related events, anything that receives any type of direct support.   There are lots of matches organised outside of Valve influence but if you are excluded from that base line it means a team finds you as damaged goods and will not pay to have a fifth wheel.    s1mple used to be banned from ESL events for example, he was close to teamless despite being one of the worlds best players so a valve ban is even worse then that.

The contrast is that the most famous throw game case was dating back to 2014 and I bet on this famous game because I knew of the one of the underdog players was greatly underrated, he later won a world title.   In 2014 the team that threw did not receive any compensation for playing, they got very little.   Free flights to LAN and a computer I think was about the benefits, maybe sticker money not sure.   So in base terms money wise it made sense to them to pay for the highest bidder which was a gambling ring.   Right now its easy to be honest as players are far better off and receive wages or at least are looking forward to that possibility.

[batang_bitcoin]

It's almost not happening anymore because the whole esports industry thing is getting wider and wider as it goes by so, the athletes or mainly the competitive and professional players are serious with their careers and won't allow themselves to be involved in this kind of scheme.
The teams or players that becomes part of this scheme lately are the rising talents or in short, the newly born talents with potential and it's been put into waste.

I guess match-fixing still occurs, it's being done pretty clean nowadays so that nobody can assess that kind of scheme. Not only in CS:GO, but also in other eSports tournaments, particularly in MOBA. Before they qualify for an international competition, every region competes for a slot. So if a strong team is able to exploit the entire bracket by match-fixing, they will select which team to represent the country with them in the international tournament. It's a cheap tactic to be used due to the extreme desperation of winning an international league with a huge pot.

It still occurs but chances are slimmer these days. If the players involve plans to get in to the competitive scene, they will not create a ruckus like this that they will regret forever.
I have witnessed a lot of talents that do have the potential but suddenly fell into the pit because of not thinking doing this. This is for the other e-sporting events that I also play.

[finaleshot2016]

It's almost not happening anymore because the whole esports industry thing is getting wider and wider as it goes by so, the athletes or mainly the competitive and professional players are serious with their careers and won't allow themselves to be involved in this kind of scheme.
The teams or players that becomes part of this scheme lately are the rising talents or in short, the newly born talents with potential and it's been put into waste.

I guess match-fixing still occurs, it's being done pretty clean nowadays so that nobody can assess that kind of scheme. Not only in CS:GO, but also in other eSports tournaments, particularly in MOBA. Before they qualify for an international competition, every region competes for a slot. So if a strong team is able to exploit the entire bracket by match-fixing, they will select which team to represent the country with them in the international tournament. It's a cheap tactic to be used due to the extreme desperation of winning an international league with a huge pot.

It still occurs but chances are slimmer these days. If the players involve plans to get in to the competitive scene, they will not create a ruckus like this that they will regret forever.
I have witnessed a lot of talents that do have the potential but suddenly fell into the pit because of not thinking doing this. This is for the other e-sporting events that I also play.

Well, due to the current ability of eSports players today, they can run it cleanly as what I said at some point, that is common for them and we really have no clue about it. Being an eSports professional is a short-term profession because they won't be a pro gamer in their whole life, some eSports careers are just 3-4 years out, so it's easier to be realistic and do their best in the league.

[winterlemon912]

I am sure you guys are aware that most of the tournaments are now being played Online. Many of the noted teams like NaVi, Cloud9 and Tier2 teams play bad Online as compared to their actual LAN performance. Do you think this will cause any ups-downs in the actual result of the matches? Also, I wonder how will Astralis play Online as I am not sure if i have seen any of their match being played Online before in 2019-20.

I do gambling on the site Stakes.com because you can use many coins there and has a good system that makes the cash out methods easier. There are many sports there too and you can also play some casino games that can entertain you while you are waiting for the results of the game you've place a bet. You can also watch live because they have a direct link of live video of the game.

[wozzek23]

Actually that's true as I have seen a few teams playing very bad like Mousesports were so bad at times and I remember Ropz their team member had some internet issues mid game and they even had to take a pause to fix it. I feel like the LAN events are much more focused and team synergy is better while in online tournaments I guess they use discord for voice and another problem I guess is that while playing on LAN you can always look at your teammate's PC and look for enemies, it has happened many times.

At the same time I wonder if this is actually a very good opportunity for smaller teams as they don't have much of LAN practice and they are just used to of playing online and that might very well be the reason behind so many upsets and one sides matches.

[fullhdpixel]

Hello there!

Tell me please is it true thatin CS:GO players can agree on the outcome of the game and thereby falsify the final? or is it just a rumor? Thanks

Do you mean match fixing? it happened long time ago and that served as a lesson for the players that remains in the competitive scene of CS:GO. Note that I'm not that too updated with CS:GO because this is not my niche but I also play this game and be aware that this happened in other esports and sporting events too. There's a history of the banned players and you can have a look who are those people and how and the reason why they were banned. And some of them because of match fixing.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Banned_players

Do you mean match fixing? it happened long time ago and that served as a lesson for the players that remains in the competitive scene of CS:GO.

But that lesson might not be enough as these players are offered massive amounts for match fixing and they are just young bunch of players who are easy to lure into such offers. I have been watching a lot of CSGO lately and I don't like to point out any players but there are many players who are either too good at one day and the next day they might be too bad and being a liability for the team.

I have been watching a lot of dota2 as well and I can almost guarantee a lot of matches are just too obvious and fixed and they are not even low ranked teams, I am talking about top teams and it is sometimes too easy to spot, like odds will swing suddenly and the match will take a pause .. and everyone knows a throw is coming.

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[wozzek23]

I have read a lot of comments and match-fixing seems to be a common concern for everyone and it might be something that is worth noticing that these players are not lifetime players and they hardly play for 4-5 or max 10 years and if they are getting good money from a bookie just to play bad on a few matches and it is literally impossible to spot those matches because CS:GO being a FPS game it is easy to understand if your crosshair is sometimes misplaced and you miss a few shots.

Although, these players are under regular scrutiny and I am pretty sure their mobiles and all conversations are checked and tracked at least for the top tier teams. Now a days everything being online, it is very easy to approach these players and fix some matches, I mean you see Navi loosing to Syman gaming and I do not blame anyone but these things don't happen when you play at LAN events.

[finaleshot2016]

It's almost not happening anymore because the whole esports industry thing is getting wider and wider as it goes by so, the athletes or mainly the competitive and professional players are serious with their careers and won't allow themselves to be involved in this kind of scheme.
The teams or players that becomes part of this scheme lately are the rising talents or in short, the newly born talents with potential and it's been put into waste.

I guess match-fixing still occurs, it's being done pretty clean nowadays so that nobody can assess that kind of scheme. Not only in CS:GO, but also in other eSports tournaments, particularly in MOBA. Before they qualify for an international competition, every region competes for a slot. So if a strong team is able to exploit the entire bracket by match-fixing, they will select which team to represent the country with them in the international tournament. It's a cheap tactic to be used due to the extreme desperation of winning an international league with a huge pot.

It still occurs but chances are slimmer these days. If the players involve plans to get in to the competitive scene, they will not create a ruckus like this that they will regret forever.
I have witnessed a lot of talents that do have the potential but suddenly fell into the pit because of not thinking doing this. This is for the other e-sporting events that I also play.

Well, due to the current ability of eSports players today, they can run it cleanly as what I said at some point, that is common for them and we really have no clue about it. Being an eSports professional is a short-term profession because they won't be a pro gamer in their whole life, some eSports careers are just 3-4 years out, so it's easier to be realistic and do their best in the league.

Speaking of match-fixing, here's flash news for y'all. This is not a CSGO team but since you guys are curious about it, here's a dota 2 scenario.

A group of Dota 2 team was banned in a tournament due to match-fixing so therefore, match-fixing still exists today. Such dirty tricks like these should be prohibited because there are many aspiring teams that are much better to win the tournament.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/gk5ih4/newbee_banned_from_participating_imbatv_events/

[greenvie99]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback and links to the information, it was important for me to read this.

Because it seemed to me that I was becoming paranoid and I could not believe anyone and anything. I am sure that there are teams that are trying to play fair, but match-fixing matches still exist, unfortunately.

[Tate Jenkins]

Hello there!

Tell me please is it true thatin CS:GO players can agree on the outcome of the game and thereby falsify the final? or is it just a rumor? Thanks

Do you mean match fixing? it happened long time ago and that served as a lesson for the players that remains in the competitive scene of CS:GO. Note that I'm not that too updated with CS:GO because this is not my niche but I also play this game and be aware that this happened in other esports and sporting events too. There's a history of the banned players and you can have a look who are those people and how and the reason why they were banned. And some of them because of match fixing.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Banned_players

I also heard about this, and therefore for a long time doubted making bets on eSports. Thanks for the link, it was useful for me

It's almost not happening anymore because the whole esports industry thing is getting wider and wider as it goes by so, the athletes or mainly the competitive and professional players are serious with their careers and won't allow themselves to be involved in this kind of scheme.
The teams or players that becomes part of this scheme lately are the rising talents or in short, the newly born talents with potential and it's been put into waste.

I guess match-fixing still occurs, it's being done pretty clean nowadays so that nobody can assess that kind of scheme. Not only in CS:GO, but also in other eSports tournaments, particularly in MOBA. Before they qualify for an international competition, every region competes for a slot. So if a strong team is able to exploit the entire bracket by match-fixing, they will select which team to represent the country with them in the international tournament. It's a cheap tactic to be used due to the extreme desperation of winning an international league with a huge pot.

Sorry to hear that it still exists and works just on small games. It was the place where I wanted to bet, because world tournaments are not held every day.

Okay, I think I will try and draw my conclusions. Thank you very much!

[Galanis]

It seems to me that making a match fixing in CS:GO is easier than for example in DotA2 or WOW. Maybe pay attention to it as an option 

[STT]

You just have to consider the amount of problems from being connected to a betting ring like that, its far easier to just play the game and take the pay thats in the game presently.
   The context for the biggest games caught in that fixing history was teams had no pay roll.   ibp went to the major, free flights maybe a couple other things but no actual pay so they made their own.   Was watching recently Hiko point out when c9 came near to a major win and becoming a world top team their total pay per month was $500 per month so they werent properly employed and any lesser team was barely receiving anything hence a great temptation then now where the top teams are making six figures and much more sponsorship.
   If you have this fear now avoid the smaller games, I much prefer betting on proper LAN in csgo and sadly we dont really have that for now.