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March 22, 2020, 08:24:42 AM
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i'm sorry but this looks like a bunch of opportunists who have seen a way to make some money using the current drama  that is going on all around the world. besides what do "bitcoiners", bitcoin core devs,... know about medicine anyways? they better stick to things they have knowledge in and let other experts in other fields do their jobs.
and what's up with the anonymity?!!! that is another red flag for me that makes say this is just money grab project.

It could be like that, there's a lot of scammers that use this outbreak as an opportunity, there are cases of fake donations scams, malware spreading, stealing of medical supplies. But it could also be the case of amateur biologists who are into conspiracies about big pharma legitimately trying to develop a vaccine, which is still pretty scary, because these people likely not poses the necessary skills and don't follow all safety procedures, so it all might backfire.

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March 22, 2020, 09:48:23 AM
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chinese corona virus
only politicians with a propaganda add the name of a country to the name of this virus Wink

That is definitely improper to attach a country or a race or whatever to a virus, bacteria, disease, and so on. But what surprises me is that the likes of African Swine Fever (ASF), German measles, and so on are still being used officially until now but are not renamed nor perceived to be an affront to the places used. You have also mentioned Ebola which is basically taken from Ebola River in what used to be called Zaire where the outbreak also originated.

Does this standard have to do with who is stubbornly insisting to use it despite its impropriety?

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March 22, 2020, 07:34:09 PM
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chinese corona virus
only politicians with a propaganda add the name of a country to the name of this virus Wink


There is more than one type of corona virus. To ensure people know which I'm referring to, chinese corona virus makes sense. The name alone reminds us of its origins. Names like COVID-19 provide no useful information and are an inferior naming convention as far as I'm concerned.

Calling it COVID-19 is like eliminating the term hungarian notation in software engineering (as apparently that could be "racist"?) and instead calling it XWIN123456789 notation. I would prefer the term hungarian notation due to its history, being a better and more informative term.

Good ideas, money and practices push out bad ideas, money and practices. Chinese corona virus makes sense.



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Corona is being treated with anti HIV medication. If its biology is identical enough to HIV to respond to HIV drugs. We may not be able to develop a vaccine against it. For the same reasons we have no vaccine for HIV.
it is not being "treated", it was only an experiment that has already failed to produce any positive results.
the reason for the experiment was that both viruses use the same enzyme.


Many doctors are describing chinese corona as a "cross between SARS and HIV". Almost as if someone with CRISPR technology melded both to create a hybrid virus. These aren't my words. This is the information I got from reading many news articles on the topic.


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There claims corona is mutating with 2nd strains
there is no evidence for this.


There are many news stories claiming this.

How did you come to the conclusion there is "no evidence" for it, if you haven't bothered using a search engine to look for evidence?


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The mortality percentage of corona is extremely high. Its credited with being fatal to between 1% and 5% of those it infects. By contrast H1N1 had a mortality rate of between 0.01% and 0.1%. The first wave of spanish flu also had a very low mortality. The exceedingly high mortality rate of corona is unusual and there are deductions which could be drawn from this which indicate a vaccine will be ineffective.
3% is not considered "extremely" high. it is high. an extremely high mortality rate is 50% which Ebola had 4 years ago.
and it is not a fair comparison to only compare mortality rate.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-deadly-is-the-coronavirus-compared-to-past-outbreaks


Naturally occurring viral infections generally begin with low mortality rates. As with the first wave of spanish flu. Sometimes, they better adapt to human biology and we see the mortality rate rise over time.

Weaponized bioweapons are different. They're engineered out of the box with noticeably greater mortality rates. The high mortality rate of chinese corona and recent ebola, where both are extremely well adapted to infect and kill humans. Could indicate they both are military products of a bioweapons division.


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It simultaneously attacks the immune system like HIV
as far as i know this is false.
people with weaker immune systems are more vulnerable to this virus as they are to any other diseases.
in fact this is one of the reasons why this virus spreads like crazy, because there are many infected people without any symptoms with stronger immune systems that spread it without being ill themselves.


Like HIV, chinese corona isn't what kills people. Corona weakens their immune system similar to HIV. Then people die from pneumonia and other conditions. That's what the news is reporting anyway.

Are you chinese or currently in china? Maybe chinese news is saying something different.


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That is definitely improper to attach a country or a race or whatever to a virus, bacteria, disease, and so on. But what surprises me is that the likes of African Swine Fever (ASF), German measles, and so on are still being used officially until now but are not renamed nor perceived to be an affront to the places used. You have also mentioned Ebola which is basically taken from Ebola River in what used to be called Zaire where the outbreak also originated.


There is a movement in the world to destroy historical statues and landmarks to encourage people to forget history. To make it easier for ruling elites to revise history in whatever image they choose.

Ruling elites prefer COVID-19 to chinese corona virus.

Because it gives them wiggle room to invent whatever story they desire around the origins and reality of it.

COVID-19 is easier for people and history books to forget its origins. That's the only reason that terminology is pushed.
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March 22, 2020, 08:51:47 PM
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i'm sorry but this looks like a bunch of opportunists who have seen a way to make some money using the current drama  that is going on all around the world. besides what do "bitcoiners", bitcoin core devs,... know about medicine anyways? they better stick to things they have knowledge in and let other experts in other fields do their jobs.
and what's up with the anonymity?!!! that is another red flag for me that makes say this is just money grab project.

It could be like that, there's a lot of scammers that use this outbreak as an opportunity, there are cases of fake donations scams, malware spreading, stealing of medical supplies. But it could also be the case of amateur biologists who are into conspiracies about big pharma legitimately trying to develop a vaccine, which is still pretty scary, because these people likely not poses the necessary skills and don't follow all safety procedures, so it all might backfire.

Like always in situations like this many pretend to be something they are not to use that for their personal gain. Many just use current drama and people's fear to make some money, we have to be aware of that.
To be honest, I don't trust amateurs in such serious situation like this, it's better to be in hands of professionals no matter what some think of medical and pharmaceutical industry.

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March 23, 2020, 04:22:34 AM
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There are many news stories claiming this.
How did you come to the conclusion there is "no evidence" for it, if you haven't bothered using a search engine to look for evidence?
i've also read the news but all i've seen them provide is guesses. and the doctors i talk to say there has not been any evidence although they say there might be a new strain.

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Like HIV, chinese corona isn't what kills people. Corona weakens their immune system similar to HIV. Then people die from pneumonia and other conditions. That's what the news is reporting anyway.

Are you chinese or currently in china? Maybe chinese news is saying something different.
no i'm not from China.
i usually read these things in more reliable sources that aren't news sites or ask a doctor in person. as i said i'm not sure about it but i have never heard it attack immune system, what it attacks is the cells creating and protecting the respiratory tract. if the infection goes any lower and reaches the lungs we get the severe cases. that is when everything starts to fall apart.

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March 23, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
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I think that to be vigilant, especially in times like this, is the wisest thing to do. Even in times like this, there are still people who intent to do no good to others and nonetheless this might be one of those scam act of those who wants to generate money from deceiving others.  And in accordance to the assumed founded cure this pandemic disease, COVID-19, evidences of such experimented vaccines and other products of medicine are still insufficient to justify and support their effectivity to cure the said disease. I would want to use this opportunity to inform everyone to please be careful not to take any medication unless prescribed to you directly by the doctors as every medication has side effects.


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March 23, 2020, 07:54:10 PM
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Covid-19: Trump sought to buy vaccine developer exclusively for US, say German officials
https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1100

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March 25, 2020, 03:34:22 PM
Last edit: March 25, 2020, 03:48:08 PM by layer1gfx
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I think that to be vigilant, especially in times like this, is the wisest thing to do. Even in times like this, there are still people who intent to do no good to others and nonetheless this might be one of those scam act of those who wants to generate money from deceiving others.  And in accordance to the assumed founded cure this pandemic disease, COVID-19, evidences of such experimented vaccines and other products of medicine are still insufficient to justify and support their effectivity to cure the said disease. I would want to use this opportunity to inform everyone to please be careful not to take any medication unless prescribed to you directly by the doctors as every medication has side effects.

absolutely, scammers gonna scam... fake charities and whatnot.

there were first cases of people trying to prevent getting infected with covid-19 by taking 10 pills of chloroquine - and ended up in hospital poisoning themselves.
 Huh

and even if the pharma industry suddenly changed and became do-gooders overnight...
my guess is that it would take some more time until we would hear from something useful to help battle the nuflu or its side effects...

so trump is looking for talented vaccine developers? that sounds like a good job for our "expert" in that biohackers team.
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