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March 17, 2020, 05:48:05 PM
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usually you store a paper wallet in a safe place that is not in direct contact with the environment. so there is no water damage, sunlight damage,... like storing it in a safe or even in a desk drawer. that means a simple paper without any kind of special protection could last for decades unless exceptionally low quality paper and ink were used.

the only other possibility for damage is if the house itself is caught on fire. in which case no type of paper is safe. a lot of other materials are also unsafe such as wood, plastic and maybe even some metals.
but there is a simple solution to avoid this possibility and that is to store a duplicate of the paper wallet elsewhere like in a safety deposit box in a bank. if the amount is high enough the cost is justifiable too.

this is of course the cheap and easy solution that people like me who don't want to spend money for creating a wallet would like .

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March 20, 2020, 10:47:13 PM
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You could always engrave your keys on stainless steel or something. If you decide against that then how about a tattoo in a less than visible place Cheesy

Engraving on a piece of metal is the most efficient way to protect your Bitcoin funds against harm. Metal is resistant to water, tear, and even fire. That's not possible with paper. Still, the latter is much more affordable than the former. Anyone can easily print Bitcoin wallets or even write seed words on a piece of paper, than doing so on metal itself. A tattoo would be a great way to preserve for Bitcoin for many years. No one will know about the Bitcoin if you've placed the tattoo on places hidden from prying eyes (if you know what I mean). But be aware that if anyone knows about it, you could easily lose a body part possibly leading towards death.

Hence, the safest and most reliable way to do this would be using a piece of metal that will last a lifetime. I'd choose either the "ColdTi" or "CryptoSteel" wallet for piece of mind. Wink


As an alternative solution you can check this thread where we discussed about metal plates, and about their durability and resistance to various influences. I think this is still safer than regular paper, no matter how it is stored.

Thanks for sharing. The list of metal wallets is of real use to me. I was not aware there were other wallets besides the "ColdTi" or the "CryptoSteel". I have to agree that they're much safer than paper because of their unmatched durability and resilience. It comes at a cost, but I'd say they're worth every penny. Smiley


I didn't even use it but you may want to look at this: https://bitkee.com/
It seems not very secure. Still someone produce something to you so I am not sure if it is %100 secure.

I've heard about this before, and was a bit skeptical of using it. But I think security will not be an issue with them, as you could easily send your encrypted BTC private key (BIP-38). Just make sure to use a long passphrase that will prevent anyone from decrypting your private key easily. They offer both Stainless Steel and Titanium wallets at an affordable cost. I'd definitely use a Bitkee wallet card for storing BTC a long time. This will simply be a copy of my main BTC wallet that will be a "ColdTi" stored on a bank safe deposit box. Redundancy is key to help preserve your Bitcoin for many generations. Cheesy

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March 21, 2020, 11:02:17 AM
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Thanks for sharing. The list of metal wallets is of real use to me. I was not aware there were other wallets besides the "ColdTi" or the "CryptoSteel". I have to agree that they're much safer than paper because of their unmatched durability and resilience. It comes at a cost, but I'd say they're worth every penny. Smiley

You're welcome Smiley

Obviously, many have seen the opportunity to sell products like this, as more and more people use crypto and are beginning to realize the importance of making a quality backup. I think this is just another level of protection, which can be useful in some emergency situations such as fires, floods, earthquakes, but also accidents involving the accidental destruction of backups by pets, young children...

I'm also considering buying something from the offer I posted in my thread, because investing in security is never a pointless investment.

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March 21, 2020, 03:16:04 PM
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March 21, 2020, 05:15:18 PM
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Well I think you might want to look into synthetic and hybrid tear resistant papers .
Or you might want to just print that up onto a cloth fabric which is durable and trustable , no one will even think about it and you can fold that particular thing and put it into your normal wardrobe and even if there is some kind of robbery I don't think they will look every t-shirt 😂
Metal is a great option but you would have to use a expensive one since normal metals can get rusted and you can have problems with that .

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March 26, 2020, 12:30:16 AM
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You're welcome Smiley

Obviously, many have seen the opportunity to sell products like this, as more and more people use crypto and are beginning to realize the importance of making a quality backup. I think this is just another level of protection, which can be useful in some emergency situations such as fires, floods, earthquakes, but also accidents involving the accidental destruction of backups by pets, young children...

I'm also considering buying something from the offer I posted in my thread, because investing in security is never a pointless investment.

Agree. It's better to be safe than sorry. I don't care about prices as long as I'm able to achieve durability and resiliency than anything else. Metal wallets are proven to be extremely secure against anything you could imagine. It's the best thing out there when you want to safeguard your Bitcoin for many generations. The "ColdTi" wallet which is made of Titanium is known to last a lifetime. AFAIK, Titanium does not oxide (rustproof) and has a high melting point. It's even tougher than Stainless Steel.

Besides the "ColdTi" wallet, Bitkee offers Titanium wallet cards which are extremely portable to carry with you anywhere. They easily fit on your everyday wallet, just like a credit card would. It's a great way to store Bitcoin indefinitely without worrying about durability. You can also use them as "gift cards" for sending Bitcoin to your loved ones.

As a last resort, one could make a tattoo with Bitcoin keypairs on it. You'll always carry your Bitcoin with you no matter what. As long as no one knows the place where you've hidden your Bitcoin, it'll remain safe for a long time. Smiley



Well I think you might want to look into synthetic and hybrid tear resistant papers .
Or you might want to just print that up onto a cloth fabric which is durable and trustable , no one will even think about it and you can fold that particular thing and put it into your normal wardrobe and even if there is some kind of robbery I don't think they will look every t-shirt 😂
Metal is a great option but you would have to use a expensive one since normal metals can get rusted and you can have problems with that .

Interesting. I was not aware about these types of paper. But it's good to know they exist, as they could be used for creating a Bitcoin paper wallet that's resistant to wear and tear. I have to say that "Polymer" is another great material which doesn't bend unlike paper. It's also highly resistant against water. The "Polymerbit" company offers "DIY" polymer banknotes/bills which are a great alternative to existing paper wallets at an affordable price.

Broidering the seed on fabrics sounds like a great idea. You can randomly place the words on your shirt, without anyone noticing it's related to Bitcoin or another crypto. The only downside is that a shirt is not resistant to fire, which is a risk you'll have to take if you go this route.

Nonetheless, metal wallets are the true winner when it comes to storing your Bitcoin against dust, fire, water, and shocks. They're more expensive than other materials, but worth every penny because of the unmatched durability they provide. Until now, metal is my material of choice when making my own Bitcoin paper wallets for long-term use. Thanks to everyone for all the helpful tips and recommendations! Smiley

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