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April 21, 2020, 11:35:30 PM
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It is very doubtful that this could happen. Yes, one of the scenarios for overcoming the crisis is to stimulate the economy through loans, but I don’t think that they will be distributed to everyone, yet it will not be very smart. And the government must understand this.

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May 13, 2020, 03:51:49 PM
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It is very doubtful that this could happen. Yes, one of the scenarios for overcoming the crisis is to stimulate the economy through loans, but I don’t think that they will be distributed to everyone, yet it will not be very smart. And the government must understand this.
I guess as it always happens - people will follow the combination of multiple solutions due to disunity of actions
this could potentially prolongate the affect of covid and quarantine
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May 13, 2020, 05:49:00 PM
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We will have economy re-start.
Probably the economy could lead to that due to currently unsolved crisis.

But year 2025 Everything will be collapsed.
Wild predictions, but it could possibly happen if another world war will occur but lets not hope so. Instead lets pray for the best in the world to overcome the current situation, no more leader greeds or war.
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May 13, 2020, 09:26:37 PM
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I don't know what will happen in 2025, so you said in 2025 market will get the crash. Can you explain why its possible, what the reason you just said like that? I know market crash can happen, and it will repeat again and again.
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May 14, 2020, 01:51:11 AM
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Are you seriously? USA is the biggest in the world and USA & your alliances still lead our world. Now is too early to say that the USA will fall because of some economic indicators
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May 14, 2020, 04:02:05 AM
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I don’t think the United States is the largest in the world and they will crash into the economy in 2025. It is never possible I don't know what you think, but the United States or any other country will not crash during this crisis. Everyone is suffering from the economic problems of his own country It will take a long time to get started It will not happen again until the crisis is over.
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May 14, 2020, 04:24:43 AM
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Are you seriously? USA is the biggest in the world and USA & your alliances still lead our world. Now is too early to say that the USA will fall because of some economic indicators
US will find ways this super power country will take every opportunities to stay in top, the economy might suffer but for sure there's always solution for them as they have enough resources and if in case that they needed to force something it's not hard for US to decide.
Though we see that every countries that being hit are really suffering and it's needed longer time to rebuild back.

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May 14, 2020, 07:03:32 AM
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We will have economy re-start.
Loans will be cheap and Everybody even with Bad poor credit history will Get the loans Again.
Inflation will hit to sky!
But year 2025 Everything will be collapsed.
The Year 2025 is end of the USA dollar!
What is the background of such speculation? I agree with your initial statement where you said that inflation will be high and loans will be cheaper. We have already started seeing that trend and majority of the Central Banks are gearing up to reduce the basic lending rate. This situation is called stagflation. Ideally, when inflation is high, lending rate goes costlier to tackle it. But what is happening currently is called stagflation and it's not easy to get out of this scenario.
However, I don't get the background of your statement when you say that everything will collapse in 2025. What triggered such thought?
I tend t agree with you, can't see where its coming from.
Moreover  I don't think that US banks will Make the same mistake as they did 12 years ago - I believe there will be a concrete bottom for loan prices so they can't go unrealistically low
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May 14, 2020, 07:59:59 AM
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 this is a one crazy speculation   . first off , the loans  .  if i am a lender i wont lend money to someone that has a bad recored before because chances that he will repeat the same mistake again  but idk to some maybe some will risk if they have a really good heart   .  second ,  why you think all will collapse on the year 2025  ?  we are now on the year 2020 and 2025 is just a few step away so more chances that situation will not be far  from today  . laslt , dollar is ofc will be there   .  maybe it need more years to be able for dollar or any other fiat to disapear and replaced by cryptos
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May 14, 2020, 11:41:04 AM
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I don't know what will happen in 2025, so you said in 2025 market will get the crash. Can you explain why its possible, what the reason you just said like that? I know market crash can happen, and it will repeat again and again.
If that happens, I hope that we can be ready so we don't get the effect of the crash so we can survive in another hard situation. If the crash is happening in a small country, then I don't think that the other country will get the effect too. But if the crash is happening in the big country, then the other countries will get the effect, and it can trigger the big crash that can happen in many countries. But 2025 is still far from now, and we have much time to prepare if that will happen later.

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May 14, 2020, 11:56:55 AM
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I don't know what will happen in 2025, so you said in 2025 market will get the crash. Can you explain why its possible, what the reason you just said like that? I know market crash can happen, and it will repeat again and again.

Market for 2020 has already crash and also considering this will be a long time we will take to recover with their virus so we can easily expect some more downfall in coming months. Firstly we will have to think how we will be able to overcome this fall and how much years it will take now to recover and be back fully functional like 2019.

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May 14, 2020, 03:24:07 PM
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We will have economy re-start.
Loans will be cheap and Everybody even with Bad poor credit history will Get the loans Again.

Inflation will hit to sky!


But year 2025 Everything will be collapsed.

The Year 2025 is end of the USA dollar!





How can you ensure that loans are cheap?
The situation is pretty unstable and banks have problems with liquidation due to the coronavirus pandemic.
The interest rates will be higher than expected eventually and the economy is going to be slowed down...
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May 15, 2020, 07:06:09 AM
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How can you ensure that loans are cheap?
This is made possible by the motivation of arousing the excitement of public spending which is a pillar of the economy in the real sector. The government has indeed provided stimulus in the form of easing credit quality assessments and credit restructuring, but banks are expected to be proactive in identifying their debtors who are affected by the Coronavirus spread so that debtors can still meet their daily needs.


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The situation is pretty unstable and banks have problems with liquidation due to the coronavirus pandemic.
Credit growth slowed and disrupted banking and non-banking performance in addition to an increase in LDR and NPL rates.


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The interest rates will be higher than expected eventually and the economy is going to be slowed down...
Loan interest will be high because of the balancing or patching process of reduced income and high budged government given credit relaxation and restructuring only companies affected by corona and in the form of interest subsidies, delays in principal payments, or granting additional credit.

In Indonesia, the Indonesia Eximbank Export Financing Institution raised lending rates to 8% from the previous 6% amid a pandemic on the pretext of adjusting financing interest rates selectively for debtors with specific criteria and will be reviewed periodically in accordance with the latest market and economic conditions.

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May 15, 2020, 08:37:57 AM
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Well I don't believe that economy can be restarted. What happened in 2008, what is happening today is that governments and banks are trying to plug the holes. For how long they can do that!? Not for long, if you ask me! And people are sick from bailing out big ones, while little ones stay down. To me politics, economy are become a comedy, I laugh every time I watch TV and some politicians, experts and the things they talk have no logic for me. We need changes, but for that changes we need more than changing the economy, we need to change entire system!

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May 16, 2020, 11:18:50 PM
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Well I don't believe that economy can be restarted. What happened in 2008, what is happening today is that governments and banks are trying to plug the holes. For how long they can do that!? Not for long, if you ask me! And people are sick from bailing out big ones, while little ones stay down.
The powerful can manipulate the economy for sometime by stimulus packages and if they are not able to control the inflation then it will be an huge affect and everything comes crashing down, this time the economic impact is really huge than in 2008 and how much can a government bail, the help always goes to the big corporate companies while the medium and small companies will always suffer.

To me politics, economy are become a comedy, I laugh every time I watch TV and some politicians, experts and the things they talk have no logic for me. We need changes, but for that changes we need more than changing the economy, we need to change entire system!
As mentioned, it is a circus for a very long time, the big corporate companies will fund these politicians to win the election and in turn when they reach the power they will help them and write off pending loans and other favors.
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May 17, 2020, 05:32:33 AM
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Well I don't believe that economy can be restarted. What happened in 2008, what is happening today is that governments and banks are trying to plug the holes. For how long they can do that!? Not for long, if you ask me! And people are sick from bailing out big ones, while little ones stay down. To me politics, economy are become a comedy, I laugh every time I watch TV and some politicians, experts and the things they talk have no logic for me. We need changes, but for that changes we need more than changing the economy, we need to change entire system!
I don't think 2008 can be comparable to what is happening this 2020
 because this year almost all the reserve of each
 countries has being released to sustain the needs of their people
 by supporting them from foods ,medical and
 financial assistance that has nothing to expect back ,i mean government
 will need to find ways after this pandemic on
 how they will cover all those spent amount while many businesses will
 surely closed as the effect of this.so the
chance of restarting will happen now ,but of course we cannot be sure
 unless time comes.

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May 17, 2020, 06:26:17 AM
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I agree that the economy will restart in 2020, this is due to the pandemic corona. Then loans will be very cheap, although some people are happy
hear that. But it is better if it is not urgent, lest we don't take loans from banks, because with current conditions not easy to make money. Later
we will have difficulty paying installments to the bank. And what's scary is that inflation will go up high, and consequently the government will raise
taxes. But I do not agree that the year 2025 will be collapsed, because there is no related evidence for that matter.

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May 17, 2020, 07:02:19 AM
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Are you seriously? USA is the biggest in the world and USA & your alliances still lead our world. Now is too early to say that the USA will fall because of some economic indicators
US will find ways this super power country will take every opportunities to stay in top, the economy might suffer but for sure there's always solution for them as they have enough resources and if in case that they needed to force something it's not hard for US to decide.
Though we see that every countries that being hit are really suffering and it's needed longer time to rebuild back.

I think that US has lost the status of super power county, they are not anymore what they used to be. Besidrs, they are other countries that are growing, both in political and economy way.
Situations like this pandemic just show how fragile countries and their economies are and how easily everything can change and fall down. How long will iit take to rise again, that is the question and not only for US.

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May 17, 2020, 02:14:01 PM
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Well I don't believe that economy can be restarted. What happened in 2008, what is happening today is that governments and banks are trying to plug the holes. For how long they can do that!? Not for long, if you ask me! And people are sick from bailing out big ones, while little ones stay down. To me politics, economy are become a comedy, I laugh every time I watch TV and some politicians, experts and the things they talk have no logic for me. We need changes, but for that changes we need more than changing the economy, we need to change entire system!
If USA is not able to bring back stability on their economy and printing more money compared to other countries then they might lose their reserve currency status and clash with China will make the things worse to economy still they got the power to bring back everything into position, lets see how long this covid exists on that only the future of USA where highly dependent on, especially the president election.
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May 17, 2020, 02:20:28 PM
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I agree that the economy will restart in 2020, this is due to the pandemic corona. Then loans will be very cheap, although some people are happy
hear that.
^ Definitely right, I am positive on the first two statements mentioned by the OP that we will have an economy restart and loans will be cheaper since we already on economic recession then after the pandemic it will be a new start for every economy and loans will be cheaper that will be given for we will undergo to an economic restart. Besides, I have read an article about perpetual loans among the governments though I am not in favor of this since it will become a burden for a borrower forever which we probably look like a cheaper loan being offered now that may also be implemented on an individual for his new beginning after the recession. Nevertheless, on the statement about the end of the USD and everything will collapse in 2025 that I can only consider as speculation since we cannot jump into conclusion without a thorough study about it.
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