The quality of this forum has gone down significantly

[CobraJ]

Just wanted to share this. Came back from a break, now it's full of rubbish threads by "legendaries" whored accounts that discuss rubbish, looks like one of the fake forum on forumwarz. WTF.

[akhjob]

Hmm. Maybe you are looking at the wrong places. There are still lots of valuable discussions going in the forum.
Maybe you should check - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=6.0 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=4.0

[royalfestus]

Whats your suggestion to improve the quality of the space? I want to understand you have been here before the last bullrun and your were active as then, you solve several problems as well. what do qualify a spam thread? There are fewer problems solve with threads in the forum unlike before, we need to make the space more attractive to real blockchain developers, investors and traders.

[btcltcdigger]

Just wanted to share this. Came back from a break, now it's full of rubbish threads by "legendaries" whored accounts that discuss rubbish, looks like one of the fake forum on forumwarz. WTF.

Signature campaigns...
When you have to make 60 posts a week to make $20, people tend to shitpost all over the place.
Don't even look at the off-topic subforum, you'll find discussion ranging from mastrubation all the way to IMF

P.S: Yes, i understand the irony, me being in a sig campaign as well...

[mole0815]

Just wanted to share this. Came back from a break, now it's full of rubbish threads by "legendaries" whored accounts that discuss rubbish, looks like one of the fake forum on forumwarz. WTF.

And how does your statement contribute to an improvement?
I would be happy if you will write many good posts in the future to make the forum a better place.

[DireWolfM14]

Just wanted to share this. Came back from a break, now it's full of rubbish threads by "legendaries" whored accounts that discuss rubbish, looks like one of the fake forum on forumwarz. WTF.

Oh, the shame!  CobraJ says our forum is "full of rubbish!"  What ever should we do to appeal to his enlightened sense of value?  How can we ever repair our damaged self esteem?
[/s]

Well, after spending a little time going through your post history, I can say this with the utmost sincerity; you should have stayed on break.

[Ryutaro]

Actually, the forum is improving in my opinion. Many people had quit since it became hard to gain easy profit but still, there is a lot of spamming and scamming going on especially in the altcoin section.

To extend on what btcltcdigger said, people tend to spam when they can't get the post requirement even though they may be seniors members with good posts history, you can't expect them to constructively post all the time. Just browse some topic in the beginner section, you will see people answering the same question many times. Though, we can avoid this if bounty managers lower the post requirement or for example cancel the minimum post requirement and impose a maximum so that members don't get forced to complete the requirement. This way, their payment will be proportional to their posts and they don't risk not getting paid.

[Initscri]

I mean, creating this thread doesn't really do much to improve quality.

Realistically, creating threads/posts that produce value, whether it be through the use of guides/tutorials/helpful information is what will work towards producing quality.

Hate to admit but all this thread is going to do is give people a place to increase post count.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

When you have to make 60 posts a week to make $20, people tend to shitpost all over the place.

Any Legendary member (which OP referred to specifically) can make way more than $20/week, and I don't see them as being the problem with shitposts--maybe the drama threads, but members who've been around a few years tend to make interesting posts, if not always substantial ones.  It's usually the people who come here for the sole purpose of earning money through bounties that are the problem.

But anyway, I haven't seen any major decline in bitcointalk in the past few years.  It seemed to be waaay worse before the merit system was implemented, and that was over two years ago.  I'm also pretty sure the real decline started when signature campaigns took off, but that was around 2012 or so if I'm not mistaken.  It was certainly already bad when I registered in 2015.

Came back from a break

How long was your break?

[btcltcdigger]

When you have to make 60 posts a week to make $20, people tend to shitpost all over the place.

Any Legendary member (which OP referred to specifically) can make way more than $20/week, and I don't see them as being the problem with shitposts--maybe the drama threads, but members who've been around a few years tend to make interesting posts, if not always substantial ones.  It's usually the people who come here for the sole purpose of earning money through bounties that are the problem.

I was just exaggerating numbers for the purpose of making a point.
But i do agree, sig campaigns and shitposting goes hand in hand. Maybe not in the early 2012 so much, but definately around 2015-2016.

[1miau]

Just wanted to share this. Came back from a break, now it's full of rubbish threads by "legendaries" whored accounts that discuss rubbish, looks like one of the fake forum on forumwarz. WTF.

Your post history indicates your break was after July 30, 2018. I don't know what you mean exactly because your OP isn't going into any detail, maybe you've visited Altcoin Discussion?

During your break many good posts were created, you only need to know where to search them. Of course you'll find some crap everywhere but it's easy to skip it, my impression is rather before you had your break, the forum was spammy.
Here are some interesting posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232037.0

And there is much more, the list contains only a tiny part.

[Initscri]

When you have to make 60 posts a week to make $20, people tend to shitpost all over the place.

Any Legendary member (which OP referred to specifically) can make way more than $20/week, and I don't see them as being the problem with shitposts--maybe the drama threads, but members who've been around a few years tend to make interesting posts, if not always substantial ones.  It's usually the people who come here for the sole purpose of earning money through bounties that are the problem.

I was just exaggerating numbers for the purpose of making a point.
But i do agree, sig campaigns and shitposting goes hand in hand. Maybe not in the early 2012 so much, but definately around 2015-2016.

Sig campaigns + shitposting + low membership value go hand in hand.

Like The Pharmacist mentioned, there are quite a few Legendary/Hero members who actually take the forum seriously, and while they do participate in signature campaigns, they do in-fact post quality posts.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to produce extra money on the side, as long as the posts have merit. It is a tad bit annoying to see how many people shit-talk signature campaign members (and even create mass ignore lists against them) when they know that it's mostly just the newbie members causing the problems, not the actual senior members.

[kawetsriyanto]

~~ it's full of rubbish threads by "legendaries" whored accounts that discuss rubbish, ~~

I'm curious about your criteria to judge a rubbish thread or not.
Can you give examples (links) and a bit of explanation why you think they are rubbish?
Anyway, if you know some rubbish threads, you can use "report to moderator" feature. Have you done it?  

~~ looks like one of the fake forum on forumwarz. ~~

WOW, it seems you have an ideal crypto/Bitcoin forum. Can you tell us what forum it is? AFAIK, bitcointalk is still the best forum I've ever known. CMIIW

Check this: https://coindiligent.com/5-best-cryptocurrency-forums-to-start-using-today

[UserU]

Can't agree more, but what can be done? It's all about the campaign exposures in the end.

If you dislike those members, just add them to your Ignore list.

[mk4]

You joined Bitcointalk in late 2017, and you think the current state is worse? Bruh. If you think threads right now are rubbish, what more in late 2017? I'd say Bitcointalk's current state is great compared to the past as a lot of people stopped due to the merit system and a lot of people capitulated due to bitcoin's drop in price.

[pooya87]

You joined Bitcointalk in late 2017, and you think the current state is worse? Bruh. If you think threads right now are rubbish, what more in late 2017? I'd say Bitcointalk's current state is great compared to the past as a lot of people stopped due to the merit system and a lot of people capitulated due to bitcoin's drop in price.

you forgot two major changes:
1. slow death of ICOs (aka scams) which practically put an end to a huge number of spammers trying to get some tokens for the "work" they were doing.
2. end of 2 major Yobit spam campaigns which didn't have any cap for number of users and led to a lot of alt account wake ups and mass spam.

[hd49728]

You joined Bitcointalk in late 2017, and you think the current state is worse? Bruh. If you think threads right now are rubbish, what more in late 2017? I'd say Bitcointalk's current state is great compared to the past as a lot of people stopped due to the merit system and a lot of people capitulated due to bitcoin's drop in price.

The worst period of the forum is in late of 2017 that triggered the very serious action of theymos. From that we have, restricted boards and the merit system - that was also improved to derank old-era Junior members to newbies if they did not earn a single merit.

All of them, especially the merit system help the forum to become better and there are less rubbish posts than before.

Bitcoin's rises and falls are correlated with posting in the forum. It is especially right if we look at rubbish posters. ICOs and IEOs die out and their income from posting decreases to nearly zero, so they stop posting rubbish.

[bakasabo]

Whats your suggestion to improve the quality of the space?

May I answer instead of him?

I suppose these low quality posts are made by people who wear signatures, that pays for each post. And participants prefer quantity over quality.  These campaign need bounty managers like yahoo or CryptopreneurBrainboss. They not only just count number of posts per week, but also give warnings if the quality is low, drop from campaign or put on a blacklist from participating in their campaigns.

[mediaBuzz]

How about a new system that will rate users' posting quality. Something in machine learning, that would analyze previous posts made and give a mark which would be shown under Activity and Merit on the users' profile every time they post. But it's not easy to write a program that would be able to mark posts properly because sometimes a post consisted of two words can be way more informative than an article.

[bakasabo]

How about a new system that will rate users' posting quality. Something in machine learning, that would analyze previous posts made and give a mark which would be shown under Activity and Merit on the users' profile every time they post. But it's not easy to write a program that would be able to mark posts properly because sometimes a post consisted of two words can be way more informative than an article.

Doubt that theymos will add some scripts to forum engine. So far I know that CryptopreneurBrainboss translated people posts (by Chromes autotranslate) and reads them by diagonal to see if persons writes crap or not. Also I've read that yahoo62278 doesn't allow to posts be made quicker than 1 post per 30min. He believes that it is impossible to write 2-5 eligible posts per half an hour and that kind of posting as "burst-posting".