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March 19, 2020, 04:24:23 AM
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at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world

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March 19, 2020, 02:45:03 PM
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at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst.

Yeah, let's look at the bright side.
Everything else in the economy from restaurants to airlines, from tourism to car manufactures are taking a hit and laying off hundreds and thousands of employees but some companies are making 50 cents more per mask and bottle of tomato juice.

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Also, the conspiracy about the pharma industry, they have the money, they are profiting like this, but...realize they are hurting business with a thousand times their money and their power? Yeah, they have lobby power, but how much power have others like Boeing or Lockheed Martin that have been also hit for example?
Do you guys think that the guys behind a pharma company that has a vaccine cure and plans to win billions have the guts to anger all the others?
Would they also risk the anger of all the governments all over the world?
It makes no sense...

Yes, they are going to make profits, but that's why they were built in the first place.
Just like food companies are making money selling food they are making money selling drugs.

But as always, if a thing is beyond the average Joe comprehension power, theories start to fly around, lots of people claim it is a biological weapon but if you ask them what a virus is they have no real clue. For thousands of years, we have died from disease and at that time there was no pharma cartel doing it, but now, you can't have one outbreak without a conspiracy theory.

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March 19, 2020, 03:06:22 PM
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at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world
Funny thing to add is that Soulja Boy, the well-known rapper, had bought stocks from companies who provide sanitation like soaps and disinfectant alcohol. So we can say he's swimming in that pandemic money right now. More over, people will always take advantage of other people's panics that'll drive them to find ways to make this pandemic profitable. Even here on our end, a lot of people hoarded, disinfectants, soaps and masks which they resold at high prices. This has been subdued by our Government and had the perpetrators face jail time, however. But as far as vaccine goes. I don't see it becoming profitable until it becomes commercially available.
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March 19, 2020, 03:38:53 PM
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Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
Many conspiracies about corona, even one of these conspiracies mentions bill gates as the ringleader of corona and intends to sell the vaccine.

again it's all just "conspiracy" thinking. I don't want to consider this a business, because it's already at an epidemic level and many people are infected and there are also some who died. I don't want to consider this business. how can they make business from human death  Cry

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March 19, 2020, 04:13:58 PM
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It's from bats (wild animals), and only God knows how many more unknown viruses carried by wild animals that could be deadly when exposes to humans. No need fancy laboratory and doctor evil since deep down in the remote area (jungle, ocean, etc.), there are lots of unknown viruses and bacteria that never be seen previously.

Plus, no one would get benefited from a bad economy, especially when you can't freely buy goods and services. It should be clear that you can't eat money.

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March 19, 2020, 06:04:53 PM
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It's from bats (wild animals), and only God knows how many more unknown viruses carried by wild animals that could be deadly when exposes to humans. No need fancy laboratory and doctor evil since deep down in the remote area (jungle, ocean, etc.), there are lots of unknown viruses and bacteria that never be seen previously.

Plus, no one would get benefited from a bad economy, especially when you can't freely buy goods and services. It should be clear that you can't eat money.
There are a lot of viruses that you can get from wild animals, but to be honest human beings are also the ones who creates and spread these viruses that i think they are doing for money, so that if the virus have spread all over the world it may be the time that they will release the cure in exchange of fame and money.



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March 19, 2020, 07:04:54 PM
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Maybe corona virus give examination for many countries does ready when get bigger problem suddenly without predicting before? we can see how many countries are not ready when found with Corona virus and many their people got pass away just few week after Corona virus effect.
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March 19, 2020, 08:01:27 PM
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I don't think it was created for business profits? Because most of the countries will give medicines for no cost to their citizen if it is available in future.

Maybe it was created by someone who wants to make money by spreading this virus and selling the medicine for it but we can't prove anything even if it is real.

Different people say different theories for everything,don't dump everything into your mind.

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March 19, 2020, 11:40:35 PM
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Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?



It was rumored anti virus software devs wrote PC malware and propagated it into the wild to encourage consumers to buy their A/V product which could remove it. Some computer viruses were harmless and written with the moral intent of forcing vendors to close security vulnerabilities which they ignored for a long time. We have precedents for these business practices.

I do not think the corona virus was developed or distributed with profiteering intent.

Corona is being treated with anti HIV medication. If its similar to HIV in biology, to be treated with the same drugs. I would guess we will never have a vaccine or cure for it, until we have a vaccine for HIV.
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March 20, 2020, 07:21:12 AM
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Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
I don't think so, even though China is very populated country I don't think that they will create a virus just to kill many people that will result the market to fall, China is very populated country and that is the reason why they became so powerful compared to other countries, I have received a forwarded message about the reason why COVID-19 exists, it says that scientist created this virus, they are only telling that the virus came from the bat to prevent some people think about the reason of the virus, one of the superior of other country (no country name included) asked the scientist to create a virus that will kill many people because we are already populated, and they should reach for about 100 Billion people killed before they show off the cured on that virus, but I don't believe on that because there are so many fake news on my country about the virus, and I do not think that it is really true because no one would wish to kills many life.
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March 20, 2020, 07:45:50 AM
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this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally.

This is not like movie this is real life, many people infected but still don't have antidote. People should stay in their home to make sure the virus not spread and the body can heal use antibody. Economy can't destroy buy virus but because greedy and expensive knowledge, no more working together just you and me. This is red market and I think find the best strategy for our financial is better than complaint.

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March 20, 2020, 08:52:56 AM
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There are a lot of viruses that you can get from wild animals, but to be honest human beings are also the ones who creates and spread these viruses that i think they are doing for money, so that if the virus have spread all over the world it may be the time that they will release the cure in exchange of fame and money.
Many said that wild animals markets were the culprit.

Anyway, virus isn't like poison that you can create antidote/serum out of it, so the cure might not exist. Yes scientist could create a vaccine (weakened version of the virus), but it wouldn't be effective with mutated virus like influenza. Even if you get vaccinated, you'll get cold most of the time when your immune system weak.

So the conspiracy theory is baseless IMO.

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There are also rumors and conspiracy theory roaming around about this. Even some government official in china accused the US government for spreading in it. Because patient zero or the man with the virus came at US first. But i dont want to suspect anything until there's a conclusive proof about this.
Maybe this is actually man made or not. Honestly time will tell.

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March 20, 2020, 09:57:10 AM
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at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world

If considered most people who run businesses, or anything related to it are affected due to this virus spread and due to closure of their city or being lockdown. The demand will definitely be going down in coming time a swell since quite of few people in job would be hit due to this slowness. Also share markets have fallen badly and people might have ended in a heavy loss if they have sold their stocks. Only handful of people who are in business related to such health services may be gaining it rest it’s a sad story.

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March 20, 2020, 12:56:38 PM
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we cannot avoid thoughts like this. actually I have long heard about conspiracies like this, it's just that, every new thing that has a big effect there is always a conspiracy in it. some say that this is America's biological weapon and others. Well, if scientists have indeed found this drug and hid it, now other scientists should have made an antivirus that might have the potential to inhibit this virus.
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March 20, 2020, 01:19:19 PM
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Antiviral drugs are not going to be in the market soon , you have to wait till 2021 , treatments are not something that are 100% working and finalized , it will need more than few months .
With Donald Trump calling it The China Virus , Making racist comments on the live television , creating problems between people.
The virus is sure very different for different people.
For some people it a agenda of political discussion.
For some it's a way to earn more through series and movies related to it .
For some it's a reason to chill out .
The bottom line is , no one even knows who could have caused it .

It's a pandemic that we have to resolve on our own .
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From what I know a pandemic such as this one cannot be monetize by pharmaceutical businesses if they find an antidote. That would violate a lot of international laws which a lot of countries already agreed and the company's CEO might be charged such as crimes against humanity. If they found a cure the best thing the company will get is either a subsidy for their research as well as some compensation for their efforts, they might profit a little but they won't be billionaires because of it as they cannot make this antidote/cure exclusive to the rich, this cure will be everyone's right to receive.
Even if they won't lie about researches of antidote be sure they will be highly rewarded for all masks, drugs, supplies etc. they are selling right now.
 

You are right in saying that supplying medicines to stop the virus are going to be rewarded but I don't think that any medicine has been made to stop this virus till now. many of us give false news about doing business The system of this country is weak and there's no action against those that violate the bounds.
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I dont know the whole story on it but using virus for business is really crazy it sound like you commit a suicide so i dont believe that the people will make a virus for thier businesses it really sounds very ridiculous.
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March 21, 2020, 09:38:34 AM
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With Donald Trump calling it The China Virus , Making racist comments on the live television , creating problems between people.

Oh wait, calling this "Wuhan virus" is racist, but calling the previous pandemic the spanish flu is not?

Anyway, virus isn't like poison that you can create antidote/serum out of it, so the cure might not exist. Yes scientist could create a vaccine (weakened version of the virus), but it wouldn't be effective with mutated virus like influenza. Even if you get vaccinated, you'll get cold most of the time when your immune system weak.

There is no time for that type of vaccine, based on either attenuated or inactive viruses, all those have failed againstt both mers and sars.
The only way to mass-produce something in an RNA vaccine, which doesn't require the presence of the virus, but, again no such vaccine has ever been approved for mass inoculation.

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March 21, 2020, 10:13:46 AM
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I don't think they are trying their best just to profit out of it, this might not look like it the research done by many experts are done by universities, it is true that they lack funding but saying that they are profiting out of it is ridiculous. One good business flourishing right now would be online gambling because people are on their houses and they want some entertainment.

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