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March 21, 2020, 10:28:49 AM
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I don't think they are trying their best just to profit out of it, this might not look like it the research done by many experts are done by universities, it is true that they lack funding but saying that they are profiting out of it is ridiculous. One good business flourishing right now would be online gambling because people are on their houses and they want some entertainment.

It still boils down to sheer capitalism. Capitalism has eaten deep into the society that we all have forgotten our action to humanity. A lot of businesses are suffering with this virus while some businesses would see it as an opportunity to cash out big and deliver even beyond their target for the entire year. Is it wrong, of course not so far its done within the ambits of the law. The businesses that are struggling would they have taken a different decision should the table turn, of course not because we are all driven by capitalism and nothing else.
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March 21, 2020, 01:18:48 PM
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You are right due to this capitalism they need the chance to try to to such a thing. this society is hooked in to superstition. They fool poor people and open their kingdoms. Capitalists don't take hold of everything, even the system is in their hands But nobody can do business with the Coronavirus because it's true and has spread everywhere the planet.

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March 21, 2020, 01:41:14 PM
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NO?

An antidote in this context would be a vaccine and the spread w pi uld have to be subdued for the vaccine to be applied to the population.

We may also see some random stocks rise though as less valuable companies come out with tests and cures.



For every private company in the US testing a vaccine, there's probably a socialised medicine programme in the EU doing the same thing, if they find them so fast - it wasn't a race, they know what they were doing...
Vaccines are not some sort of antidotes. In fact antidotes and vaccines are totally different things. You don't have to subdued the spread (not even sure what this means. I am assuming you mean that the spread has to be controlled) for applying the vaccine. People that hasn't been affected by the virus can apply the vaccine (if it ever gets created and approved) to make themselves immune (or at least be able to fight the virus without causing much trouble) to the virus. Those already affected by the virus does not need to apply the vaccine since the anitbodies can already fight against the virus.
You use antidote to reverse the bad affect of drugs or poison. On other hand you apply vaccine in order to make your immune system be able to fight against that particular virus if it ever attacks the body.

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March 21, 2020, 03:04:17 PM
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I don't think they are trying their best just to profit out of it, this might not look like it the research done by many experts are done by universities, it is true that they lack funding but saying that they are profiting out of it is ridiculous. One good business flourishing right now would be online gambling because people are on their houses and they want some entertainment.

It still boils down to sheer capitalism. Capitalism has eaten deep into the society that we all have forgotten our action to humanity. A lot of businesses are suffering with this virus while some businesses would see it as an opportunity to cash out big and deliver even beyond their target for the entire year. Is it wrong, of course not so far its done within the ambits of the law. The businesses that are struggling would they have taken a different decision should the table turn, of course not because we are all driven by capitalism and nothing else.
of course we know that products are in excess of demand at a time like this, and whether that is said to be business or indeed necessity. but with so many requests, it certainly makes the price expensive and it takes a lot of people, such as basic commodities that must be available for their survival

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March 21, 2020, 04:45:02 PM
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at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world

That's sort of game theory at work.

If everyone just buys enough for themselves, everyone has enough and there is no shortage. But if just 1 person buys more than he needs, everyone else needs to also line up and buy or end up on the short end of the stick.

Trust me, when game theory starts to work on Bitcoin, it will be a whole new level of FOMO and then we who got in early will be really happy. Hopefully those of us who have more than we need decide to give it back to those who need it most.

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March 21, 2020, 06:31:30 PM
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at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world

That's sort of game theory at work.

If everyone just buys enough for themselves, everyone has enough and there is no shortage. But if just 1 person buys more than he needs, everyone else needs to also line up and buy or end up on the short end of the stick.

Trust me, when game theory starts to work on Bitcoin, it will be a whole new level of FOMO and then we who got in early will be really happy. Hopefully those of us who have more than we need decide to give it back to those who need it most.
I very much hope for the legalization of cryptocurrencies and that Bitcoin will take its place of honor as an international currency as a means of payment for every day for each person.  I very much hope that all my savings will not depreciate, as is now happening in the Fiat equivalent.  Today, in a pandemic, almost any entrepreneur is trying to earn at the expense of a simple person, because for example the cost of medical masks is $ 2, and they are already selling for $ 10.  Almost all food products have almost doubled in price, as well as all basic necessities for humans.  What caused this imitation?  Of course, because of the artificial manipulations of the government and businessmen.  At the same time, the national currency in my country fell significantly in relation to the dollar.  If I used a stable bitcoin, then it would be stable all the time, and not be subject to inflation like my national currency.
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March 21, 2020, 11:47:52 PM
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NO?

An antidote in this context would be a vaccine and the spread w pi uld have to be subdued for the vaccine to be applied to the population.

We may also see some random stocks rise though as less valuable companies come out with tests and cures.



For every private company in the US testing a vaccine, there's probably a socialised medicine programme in the EU doing the same thing, if they find them so fast - it wasn't a race, they know what they were doing...
Vaccines are not some sort of antidotes. In fact antidotes and vaccines are totally different things. You don't have to subdued the spread (not even sure what this means. I am assuming you mean that the spread has to be controlled) for applying the vaccine. People that hasn't been affected by the virus can apply the vaccine (if it ever gets created and approved) to make themselves immune (or at least be able to fight the virus without causing much trouble) to the virus. Those already affected by the virus does not need to apply the vaccine since the anitbodies can already fight against the virus.
You use antidote to reverse the bad affect of drugs or poison. On other hand you apply vaccine in order to make your immune system be able to fight against that particular virus if it ever attacks the body.

To develop an "antidote" you'd need something to reduce the antitoxins in your blood which would have to be done via a device administered via IV which won't be passed by any government thst cares about its citizens.

Or you'd have to develop something that draws out its antigens and breaks up the virus, which is similarly impossible in current medicine/technology without causing many more problems for the patient...

Even bill Gates' idea of refining and injecting blood plasma would require testing and filtration before being attempted and a government again would have to approve something and in doing so, if its simple to do (I. E a known strategy of idea) then the country that created the invention may not be needed. Governments can decide to honour a patent or not especially if its from a country that doesn't respect international copyright law itself.
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March 21, 2020, 11:52:39 PM
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We don't know if that's really happening,  the world is corrupt, people can use anything to destroy the economy for their personal benefits, including this virus that affected millions of people's lives. Sometimes the movie happens in real life, but that would only remain speculation for now until these people are found doing the crime and arrested.

well, I hope this is not a man made disease as otherwise if we can stop it now, it will still happen in the future.
These people who are doing it are cruel with no soul at all, for the money or power, they are willing to kill people.

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March 22, 2020, 03:49:00 AM
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We don't know if that's really happening,  the world is corrupt, people can use anything to destroy the economy for their personal benefits, including this virus that affected millions of people's lives. Sometimes the movie happens in real life, but that would only remain speculation for now until these people are found doing the crime and arrested.

well, I hope this is not a man made disease as otherwise if we can stop it now, it will still happen in the future.
These people who are doing it are cruel with no soul at all, for the money or power, they are willing to kill people.


I am not inclined in the thinking that this is a man-made virus. I still believe that the first persons who acquired it came from natural sources. If it is man-made, one should have come up a potent vaccine already. And yet, potential vaccines are still in human trial stage. I don't see that this is done for business sake. This is already pandemic and the whole world is suffering from it.
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March 22, 2020, 08:12:24 AM
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Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
I think no. Corona virus had gone through enough for them to hold the possible antidote that can cure infected people. If it's really exisiting, they should've released it ASAP thus they can sell a lot but they didn't do. The reason why there is no certified antidote yet is because of the certification process. Establishing a valid cure for a certain virus takes process. A lot of tests and practices should be performed before it can be available in the market.
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March 22, 2020, 08:36:09 AM
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Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
I think no. Corona virus had gone through enough for them to hold the possible antidote that can cure infected people. If it's really exisiting, they should've released it ASAP thus they can sell a lot but they didn't do. The reason why there is no certified antidote yet is because of the certification process. Establishing a valid cure for a certain virus takes process. A lot of tests and practices should be performed before it can be available in the market.

From the previous week, there is a virus spreading rapidly into the china and this is because of the exotic foods they eat we cannot blame them because this is part of their culture and because of the virus spreading through physical contact it is rapidly spreading and comes for over the world and this might not a good thing because all of the countries gets alarmed and they buy a lot of things they need because there is a chance the lockdown of every place and this is happening already during the pandemic outbreak the stock market falls because some of their investors pull back their money and some of the people cannot go outside to buy something they need. And now some of the countries discover a cure but does not release into the public still they need to have a lot of tests. Still, it is better if we keep safe to avoid getting infected and support the market to increase again.

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March 22, 2020, 08:37:47 AM
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Not good, it is not a chance to become a businessman this time, because the world is suffering from the pandemic corona virus so that we need a UNITY to surpass this kind of problem as ONE and not individually. When we think first about our business the other people especially in the low class of community will not get the cure because of the high price. So that if we give that the cure is for anyone as for free, all people will get safe. I think if someone who will use the crisis as their business they will get punishment by the international government, because it is not the time that we make money, it the time that we need a unity.

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March 22, 2020, 08:54:25 AM
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Not good, it is not a chance to become a businessman this time, because the world is suffering from the pandemic corona virus so that we need a UNITY to surpass this kind of problem as ONE and not individually. When we think first about our business the other people especially in the low class of community will not get the cure because of the high price. So that if we give that the cure is for anyone as for free, all people will get safe. I think if someone who will use the crisis as their business they will get punishment by the international government, because it is not the time that we make money, it the time that we need a unity.

Not sure if their is a business in it as it was being tested in a lab and not created by a business man . Also the reason could be more bigger than this business as news is coming that this is being spread purposely by a country in order to evicted super power and break the economy’s of the rest of world which were doing not that bad considering the world’s growth .

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March 22, 2020, 09:27:09 AM
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Every possibility could be accepted regarding the said virus but, this one is outrageous. The given reason is far from possible because, obviously people would not do this kind of plan wherein they will put a lot of risk to the social and economic status around the globe like, the stock market that have put a lot of people into business and investments but now is down, business that needs massive customers to operate and would not go bankrupt like airlines and such.

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March 22, 2020, 11:25:46 AM
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Corona virus can cause death if a person's immune system is weak. In people whose immune systems are strong, even if infected with this virus it will not die, and has the potential to recover.
Deaths from Covid-19 are the highest in the age range of 60 years and above and also in people who have other congenital diseases. At the age of 60 years and over are no longer productive age.
so maybe nature is getting tired of seeing unreasonable human behavior, and eliminating some people for natural ecosystems for the better.
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March 22, 2020, 03:31:08 PM
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You are right due to this capitalism they need the chance to try to to such a thing. this society is hooked in to superstition. They fool poor people and open their kingdoms. Capitalists don't take hold of everything, even the system is in their hands But nobody can do business with the Coronavirus because it's true and has spread everywhere the planet.
Inevitably there will be prices for cures. This is not only to rip the common joe out of his money but it is to both fund the cause, which in this case is finding the cure, and to also compensate the people who worked tirelessly in order to have these cures, be it vaccine or mere prescription drugs, be made. You wouldn't want to work with no pay in return, and so they do. It's less of capitalism and more of funding the cause. Inevitably thwre will be business for it, but it's not the main concern in this situation, it's finding the cure.

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March 22, 2020, 04:01:32 PM
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I very much hope for the legalization of cryptocurrencies and that Bitcoin will take its place of honor as an international currency as a means of payment for every day for each person.  I very much hope that all my savings will not depreciate, as is now happening in the Fiat equivalent.  Today, in a pandemic, almost any entrepreneur is trying to earn at the expense of a simple person, because for example the cost of medical masks is $ 2, and they are already selling for $ 10.  Almost all food products have almost doubled in price, as well as all basic necessities for humans.  What caused this imitation?  Of course, because of the artificial manipulations of the government and businessmen.  At the same time, the national currency in my country fell significantly in relation to the dollar.  If I used a stable bitcoin, then it would be stable all the time, and not be subject to inflation like my national currency.

But Bitcoin already is an international currency and means of payment every day for every one able to access it. Tell me one other currency where you can easily find a willing buyer and/or seller in every country today. US dollar comes close but I'd be hard-pressed to find someone willing to take my dollars for local currencies of most countries I'm likely to visit. Bitcoin on the other hand I'll find someone online in 1 minute and get the transaction done in another minute.

We don't need legalization of crypto... that's the best thing about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's not exactly stable too, in fact, it's in the highest period of volatility it's ever been for years.

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March 22, 2020, 04:26:19 PM
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Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

I doubt that this is something out of a movie with a villain wanting to wipe the earth clean out of its people. If this is a plot of someone or a country or a group of people for profit, I don't know what to say. Medicines to counter covid-19 are said to be used for testing and despite that, a lot of people are already recovering from the virus.

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March 22, 2020, 05:47:40 PM
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You are right due to this capitalism they need the chance to try to to such a thing. this society is hooked in to superstition. They fool poor people and open their kingdoms. Capitalists don't take hold of everything, even the system is in their hands But nobody can do business with the Coronavirus because it's true and has spread everywhere the planet.

So capitalism is bad in your opinion, but what is better? Communism? Socialism? Give me a break!
This virus is the new form of global terrorism. I'm sure that ISIS and similar groups will now be more interested in buying germs than finincing suicide bombings and people who steal trucks and ram them into the unsuspecting crowd.

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Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

I doubt that this is something out of a movie with a villain wanting to wipe the earth clean out of its people. If this is a plot of someone or a country or a group of people for profit, I don't know what to say. Medicines to counter covid-19 are said to be used for testing and despite that, a lot of people are already recovering from the virus.

If someone or some group of people rrally have done this things to the world for the sole reason of profit then humanity is fading for us, once this is proven what do you think people will do about those people, how will they react after this, this can cause dramatic changes in our world. About the antidote, our own body has its way of fighting the virus, i think people recovers because they eliminate the symptoms despite not using a specific vaccine for the virus but of course a real vaccine is much needed for those people who are struggling with the virus.



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