a disease or a virus or is there business in it?

[shushu9977]

There are few countries declared or claimed that the discovered the antidote of covid-19. But I think, no country clarifies that clearly 100%. May be Allah help us and very soon publish the antidote of covid-19.       

[bearexin]

There are few countries declared or claimed that the discovered the antidote of covid-19. But I think, no country clarifies that clearly 100%. May be Allah help us and very soon publish the antidote of covid-19.       

I have heard and read a lot of things being said about this Coronavirus and some of them are so dumb. And moreover if this was a business, don't you think there are already lots of cases enough for them to release the cure and make money? Lol.

I have also seen people that claimed that Coronavirus was created and released to decrease the number of people around the world, because the world population is too much. And some have said it was created by the West to destroy a particular continent. And some have said the Chinese government created it because they want to bring down other governments and take over world power. I am already tired of all these things, so I am just going to believe that this is a virus that popped out of nowhere lol.

[PavelMed]

I do not think that this virus is the work of man, as well-known politicians and leaders of many countries have been ill with it. No one would dare to “release” this virus, because the virus can infect the one who released it. It’s just that the authorities of many countries used this virus to increase control over citizens.

[Bezobraznike]

I do not think that this virus is the work of man, as well-known politicians and leaders of many countries have been ill with it. No one would dare to “release” this virus, because the virus can infect the one who released it. It’s just that the authorities of many countries used this virus to increase control over citizens.

   We will never know, it's what I think. Who knows what is the real truth here, and
some governments are point fingers and make accusations. Conspiracy theories
around the internet make me to think that all this is made by powerful people to
regain control.
    Billionaires around the world made a lot of money during this pandemic. That
means that there was a lot of business from this pandemic. Was it all about
business or not, nobody knows, my opinion is there was more business than virus.

[wozzek23]

Billionaires around the world made a lot of money during this pandemic. That
means that there was a lot of business from this pandemic. Was it all about
business or not, nobody knows, my opinion is there was more business than virus.

This doesn't seem like a business anymore. A lot of people where I live were claiming that Coronavirus is just a business at the initial time. Now people have started living around the threats of corona outbreak; it means those corona pandemic is no more a threat. Just being conscious about not getting infected by the virus is more than enough for them to start leaving their normal life as usual.

Well, now a lot of things have changed and it has gotten really serious and it's no longer something that should be jokes with. I don't think this is any business, maybe it's a virus that broke out from a lab as some would say or it just came from bats and pangolins? I just don't know man. But if this was really a business, those that started it would have start releasing the drugs right now and cashing out since the cases of Coronavirus around the world has grown too big.

[bitbollo]

Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

no. creating antiviral drugs it's very hard and expensive, plus requires a lot of time and the effort of hundreds and hundreds of people!
plus they should TEST on a large population before it can be sell out.

Have you ever heard about Sofosbuvir (plus the other molecules that are able to eradicate HCV?)
Before the company has started to sell they should be sure that it works on human (effectiveness)
They should see if this is only a temporary effect. They must evaluate all adverse events (if any).
For doing this you need a lot of time, resources, data, patients, doctors, hospitals etc etc etc.

Thinking we are living in a movie and this is another conspiracy made some mad scientist it's just a crap argumentation.
Despite people have 0 knowledge about peer review process in a scientific paper, or 0 knowledge of pharmacy development, its pure defamation instill certain dismal doubts or making any allusion like a "film".

[shield132]

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Well, well, well... Don't you know that Pharma is a business? And it's a huge business along with grocery business.
What do you think, are scientists unable to treat cancer, finally reverse tooth decay process and etc? Of course not, logically if they were able to invent steroids and powerful stimulants during world wars in a very short time, then why won't they be able to do it quickly right now? Even a lot of medicines were created between 19-20th century, we are in stuck right now.

See what USA is going, a lot of people are put on antidepressants and on other drugs even from their childhood. What do you think, is it logical and fair? To put a lot of people on meds that have awful withdrawals? Just see how many prescriptions are writing yearly in USA and you'll be amazed. After that, why don't you think that they aren't going to make money from current situation? A lot of money?

N1 one of the largest company by revenue is Walmart, then see what companies are owned by Walmart, then from these companies and the list goes on and on.

Without doubt, our life isn't a science fiction movie but the reality is really different and isn't fairy tale.

[bitbollo]

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we are in stuck right now.

Did you think it's "easy" make a new drug? NO isn't so easy. It's full of scientist so all people are working for "the evil" ?
If it was so easy bring new drugs to market ... there were more drugs on the market... isn't profitable?!?  

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After that, why don't you think that they aren't going to make money from current situation? A lot of money?

it's pretty clear that you don't know anything about regulations, pharmacology and how a new drug arrive to the market.
This is not a fairy tale, but it's a big error blame an entire industry (including the good aspects since millions of lives are saved each year).
Most of public opinion see just scandals, but there are not only these... I mean if you have a disease you don't go to the sorcerer but in a hospital.
You don't drink magic potions but you take medicine.

[shield132]

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we are in stuck right now.

Did you think it's "easy" make a new drug? NO isn't so easy. It's full of scientist so all people are working for "the evil" ?
If it was so easy bring new drugs to market ... there were more drugs on the market... isn't profitable?!?  

What about if we establish a new type and call it shadow monopoly? Where you want to enter into the market but current monopoly companies don't give you right to do it? There were a lot of promising adhd medicines but weren't approved (it's easy to have a reason if you want) but instead addictive ones are given away like it's nothing. Cause when you are addicted to something, you crave it finally.

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After that, why don't you think that they aren't going to make money from current situation? A lot of money?

it's pretty clear that you don't know anything about regulations, pharmacology and how a new drug arrive to the market.
This is not a fairy tale, but it's a big error blame an entire industry (including the good aspects since millions of lives are saved each year).
Most of public opinion see just scandals, but there are not only these... I mean if you have a disease you don't go to the sorcerer but in a hospital.
You don't drink magic potions but you take medicine.

I know a lot about pharmacology and regulations/steps that FDA sets on new drugs to approve them on market. But what happens in reality is that FDA allows unsafe drugs on the market because of pressure from pharmaceutical companies. They approved dangerous tranquillizers and ssris that have very awful withdrawal. Doesn't it sound curious for you that all of these drugs have awful withdrawal but there isn't similar on market that doesn't have withdrawal? Do you know that at some point Soviet Union was working on similar drugs without side effects and some of them succeed?

Nothing to talk about these addictive drugs that are pharma business and a lot of prescriptions come on them (I advice you to check numbers), I also want to remind you that nearly a third of FDA-approved drugs had problems.

[YAPEK]

in my opinion the world today is full of madness. there are 3 options on my mind.
1. a trade war between China and America
2. the element of intent, to kill the country's economic system between China and America
3. Before Corona emerged, the two countries were at odds.

[bitbollo]

Do you know that at some point Soviet Union was working on similar drugs without side effects and some of them succeed?

Ok it's enough .After the magic drugs from Soviet Union there is a limit to the logic, since even placebo can have side effect...(nocebo effect). It's a complete nonsense, since if it was PROFITABLE and you know despite this is not your field,
why no one in a pharma company is selling out ? isn't profitable?!? 

I am sorry but you are just spreading classic lies typical of "conspirators" starting from 1 valid point (drug withdrawn from the market due side effects ...)

[abhiseshakana]

1. a trade war between China and America

Or the war between Trump the megalomania Vs Xi the rebel nationalist. The origin of the trade war was because Xi opposed Ronald Reagan's treaty with Deng Xioping. The Trump make America slogan great again is the slogan Ronald Reagan and Trump idolizes Reagan.

2. the element of intent, to kill the country's economic system between China and America

There are many parties and many agendas in the COVID-19 pandemic. There are State Actors namely China and America and non-state actors namely; WHO, the Global elite believed to be the pharmaceutical elite, Xi Jing Ping, Trump, Republicans, Democrats, and globalist groups.

3. Before Corona emerged, the two countries were at odds.

Japan colonizes China, America is Japan's partner. Ronald Reagan wanted to democratize China with Western investment in China, but it failed. Hong Kong, which was prepared as a gateway to democracy in China, was apparently communicated by China.

[themohit]

There are lots of speculations about the COVID 19 pandemic. Some of the rumours are to loud that they tarnish the image of some countries and entities believing that they might have a hand in the outbreak. Whatever be the case, no one has strong evidence to prove that so its high time we let go of those misconceptions and focus on how to help bring it under control.

I won't ever believe someone made corona on purpose and/or started the outbreak on purpose.
There were people against outbreak, there were opposite. But overall it was an adequate decision after corona came around

[Kasabus]

I do not think that this virus is the work of man, as well-known politicians and leaders of many countries have been ill with it. No one would dare to “release” this virus, because the virus can infect the one who released it. It’s just that the authorities of many countries used this virus to increase control over citizens.

What we have at the present is a deadly virus and has already taken thousands of lives so i hope let us stop spreading that this virus is a man made one because it's not really helping at all. I don't think that there are a lot of billionaires making business out of this pandemic as everybody is affected by this. Let us focus in finding a cure or vaccine for corona virus so that we can all live back to normal again.

[Shasha80]

There are a lot of conspiracies related to COVID-19, and based on my investigation this possibility is man-made. There are business interests
behind this incident, speaking of COVID-19 which spread so fast and created an economic crisis throughout the world. Of course there are several
those who benefit, especially those who have the vaccine.

[princeyeboah]

There is no proofs backing the claims that most people have about COVID-19 being intentionally created to cause huge damage and in the end produce a vaccine that will be a worldwide demand - thus generated huge profit for the people involved. Such allegation is wild and vague. The best thing to do now is to seize the moment and make the best out of it. Invest in cryptocurrency!

[ancafe]

There are a lot of conspiracies related to COVID-19, and based on my investigation this possibility is man-made. There are business interests
behind this incident, speaking of COVID-19 which spread so fast and created an economic crisis throughout the world. Of course there are several
those who benefit, especially those who have the vaccine.

Yes, but this conspiracy is very interesting, a lot of things are hooked up. however, I didn't really follow the development of the conspiracy. it's just that, the real thing is, the spread of this virus is quite easy and fast, so it can't be avoided. besides, the treatment is also still not very clear. as far as I know, it took years to find a drug that worked specifically.

[wojak]

Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

not really, virus is real and it is a problem, the panic around it is waaaay too big and artificial, and before there were created any reasonable research and plans to solve situation, big money already started using situation and forced countries to overreact and panic.

example from my country:
- selling mask was prohibited, then it was released when gov related people started to import them and selling
- most virus medicines were either prohibited or a lot news appeared that those are not safe to use (somehow for more than 10 years it was on market and used widely without problems)
- for some reason when social group starts protesting, our government is finding out that tests were wrong and a lot of infections appears among this social group - now for example miners.
- country is preparing help strategies for business that when you actually read small print on it, you will find that it is way to take over those business
and so on.

Virus is real, political and economic situation is artificial and is using virus to force regulations you would never accept without pandemy.

[rodskee]

The truth?no one can tell now or even if this ends still there are so many things we need to prove first before getting
 the real answer.This cannot be disease because the
 spread is so fast and cannot be seen the effect but there is many proof that it is a Virus but the question is "are this
 Virus is intentionally spread"?


China is where the place this Virus starts but the problem is why did the effect is much Higher and wilder in other
countries compared to their own people?
i wonder what is the reality behind this pandemic and how come this happens in this bad manner.
The Chinese government must explain this further
when the crisis ends because even if this is not intention yet they have obligation to the
 Victim for the spread IMO.

[peter0425]

Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

It doesn't matter whats behind this Virus,or disease or Business,what we need to find is the cure because life matters here.

Let s stop the issues because people need help and not another shit topic just to have a fancy conversation.