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Due to the Coronavirus, lots of countries are lockdown. Venezuela is also on nationwide quarantine. As a result, banks are shutting down, on the other hand, Bitcoin trading activity is increasing in Venezuela. https://decrypt.co/22750/venezuela-shuts-down-banks-coronavirus-bitcoin-trading-soars
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March 19, 2020, 03:10:25 AM |
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It is understandable because they closed down their banks to prevent the spread, they are making measures to prevent a total outbreak. Plus they are experiencing hyperinflation in their currency that is why they are dependent on dollars so it is the reason there is a surge in bitcoin trading.
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March 19, 2020, 01:43:21 PM |
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If it is happening due to Coronavirus, then the same should have been happening in other countries as well. Like France, Italy and Spain etc. But is that happening? The main reason of this increse is possibly explained as below, 1. Venezuelan dollar is facing hyper inflation that its purchasing power has decreased to the lowest level possible. 2. Due to the recent lockdown, their left over production industries halted production activities which further weakens the economy and its currency. 3. Venezuelan citizens are possibly looking for a highly liquid asset to safe guard their money It is a joint impact of Coronavirus and weakened economy of Venezuela.
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March 19, 2020, 02:18:33 PM |
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It's only in China. In my local, it was above $6.5k per BTC when BTC was near $5000, although I didn't like the premium price because I wanted to purchase a little when the price was below $5000. It's really good to see lately some activity is happening around.
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Due to the Coronavirus, lots of countries are lockdown. Venezuela is also on nationwide quarantine. As a result, banks are shutting down, on the other hand, Bitcoin trading activity is increasing in Venezuela. Its true that we are quarantined but i doubt "trading is increasing" as we rarely use banks for anything anymore anyway.... On the other hand, since you shouldn't go out you can't use much money in the first place. But traders are making money and most volume belongs to those whales, many which don't even live in the country anymore. Banks in Venezuela have been reduced to mostly electronic payment processors. You can't do the things you often associate with banks anymore, not for the past few years. No credit (rates are fixed, under hyperinflation which is nonsense, oh and they were forced to go full reserve, which is great if the rest of the Austrian measures (especially economic freedom) were put in place. In any case before corona, banks in Venezuela were largely useless. Cash? Let me tell you, they can give you a single banknote per day. Currently there are only 3 types: 10k, 20k, and 50k. You don't get to pick which one, it depends if you are lucky you might get the 50k. So how much is 50k? Before the world economic collapse, you needed 75k to purchase 1 USD. Currently, you need about 70k (go figure, a world economic collapse made a hyperinflation fiat turn around). But that's about it. People avoid cash if at all possible. Most payments are done by debit card (if you got an old one that hasn't broken, since new cards have been unavailable for years) or via SMS or app payment, or wiretransfer (which can take 1~2 days between different banks). See? bitcoin transfers faster. A mere 1 day wait is luxury ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Since the "legalization" (to own and use foreign currencies) in 2019, most cash you see around lately are USD banknotes, the smallest ones Americans often ignore (ie: 1, 2, 5). It is said many of the small banknotes from Florida are sent here so there is often scarcity of them back in FL... Currently there are 42 cases confirmed, more expected to come. Both Cuba and China have sent people and supplies and medicines. Borders are closed, commercial travel (air, land, sea) is closed. There are blockades in many places to stop people from moving, and those that go out to buy food or medicine, have to use a mask (yeah i know it should be for the sick only, go tell them). People are not allowed to use gas stations either, only health/gov vehicles.
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March 19, 2020, 08:00:30 PM |
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From what I have heard fir to non functioning of the banks and due to the people not being able to go outside , the bad government and jobs being shut down . Now people are left alone to fend for themselves .
*They are using bitcoins as a means of transactions at the same time they are working using bitcoins from home because the government isn't paying the people who are sitting at home.
I do think it is not just in Venezuela but in most of the countries dealing with Corona virus .
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March 19, 2020, 08:13:38 PM |
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If it is happening due to Coronavirus, then the same should have been happening in other countries as well. Like France, Italy and Spain etc. But is that happening?
The main reason of this increse is possibly explained as below,
1. Venezuelan dollar is facing hyper inflation that its purchasing power has decreased to the lowest level possible. 2. Due to the recent lockdown, their left over production industries halted production activities which further weakens the economy and its currency. 3. Venezuelan citizens are possibly looking for a highly liquid asset to safe guard their money
It is a joint impact of Coronavirus and weakened economy of Venezuela.
It is hard to fall more when you are already at the bottom... Venezuela's economy is one of the worst in several aspects. Halted production? What production? Most production stopped in the past years of price fixation policies, and nationalization of industries left to rust abandoned. The goods that returned in today's Venezuela, are imported and overpriced ( before the virus), yes including Toilet Paper Venezuela's fiat coin is formerly called bolivar, like the historical figure (notice small cap to distinguish from the actual family name). This coin has been "remade" (to slash zeroes) 2 times, once in 2008 to slash three zeroes, and another in 2018 to slash 5 zeroes, so the current "bolivar" has a suffix to denote its current (3rd) version: Soberano (VES), previous version was Fuerte (VEF) and the original without suffix (VEB). Current wages in Venezuela are too little (about $5 for a monthly wage, $10 if you land a "very good" job) to save anyway, and if you kept bolivars you would not be able to buy tomorrow what you can buy today. So those that survive, are either earning in foreign currency (or crypto) or get foreign currency (or crypto) sent from abroad by family or acquaintances. This is why i mentioned "whales" in my previous post. In my opinion, it really isn't happening, not by people living normally here anyway, at least not common people, but a few rich whales.
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Bitcoin trading volumes in Venezuela were rising even before the pandemic happened. It is so because their currency is useless and people are accepting either USD or bitcoin in exchange for their goods. Currently everyone is on a selling spree on major markets, cryptocurrencies included, and the reason mainly is the virus spread. Anyway, back to Venezuela, since their money is so fucked up, they have no other choice but to hold and accept currencies with actual value, so it makes sense that their trading volumes rise amid the sells around the world. In a country where the economy is so fucked that it has been remade thrice yet nothing happened, you will expect its citizens to use anything--literally anything--except what their country issues.
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March 19, 2020, 10:04:26 PM |
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In this lockdown time, I see Bitcoin's price and the trading volume keeps increasing. This is proved that when every money goes stop manually, Bitcoin money still can be transacted to use in daily life. Not only Venezuela, you see Bitcoin's price is increasing now, is it for lockdown or any other reason? I am not sure but there has a possibility though.
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March 19, 2020, 10:58:11 PM |
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It is understandable because they closed down their banks to prevent the spread, they are making measures to prevent a total outbreak. Plus they are experiencing hyperinflation in their currency that is why they are dependent on dollars so it is the reason there is a surge in bitcoin trading.
So you are saying that just because the banks have closed down, the trade volume in Venezuela has increased? Care to explain why? Just because the banks have temporarily shutdown, people don't start trading crypto currencies. There might be some other reason. They probably are buying more crypto currencies to prepare themselves from the future economic crash and the current inflation (i think the government has bought that under control, though I am not sure). Would be really interesting if Venezuela ends up making a crypto currency their official currency.
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March 19, 2020, 11:18:18 PM |
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I thought that even before the lockdown Venezuela has been soaring high in trade because of the hyperinflation there?
But regardless of that, people are doing their best to survive in these tough times and sure the other nations that are also in the same situation are doing the same.
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March 19, 2020, 11:30:30 PM |
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Considering the nature of this corona virus pandemic, bitcoin and cryptocurrency trading is the only form of services that can render people some amount of profits to survive in this crisis. It's no surprising people in Venezuela are now into bitcoin trading ....
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It´s very sad, Venezuela are in serious trouble even before coronavirus, and now I saw another day that FMI rejected help to Venezuela People are using BTC to protect their money against inflation, I don´t know exactly how they gain / buy BTC, but for sure it´s the best solution for them
They mostly buy BTC by making P2P trades. I think Bitcoin Magazine did an article on it a while ago. This is also what on my mind, buying or selling Bitcoin by P2P trades is extremely good especially if you are the buyer. I don't think also the price is different there, like doubled in the current price? Maybe it's just a piece of fake news that I saw in some social media, as the price in LocalBitcoins there before. Because for what I heard about the Bitcoin trading volume in Venezuela already started before even the coronavirus outbreak hasn't yet started.
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Here we go again... Venezuela is breaking record after records in trading, huge amounts of bolivars are converted in bitcoin, Venezuela will help us reach the moon... Aren't you all tired of this same news regurgitated over and over? Yeah, volume on LB is up from 491 BTC a week to 540 BTC. https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins/VES/BTCBut on the same down is on a downtrend from the 621 BTC recorded in January and i'm not going to mention..yes I will, the 2,487 in February 2019. This is again some piece of news over nothing. A guy in Lebanon is selling bitcoins to 5 customers, hooray we're saved! People in Venezuela are buying (and selling) 400k worth of BTC a day. Bullish!!! Considering the nature of this corona virus pandemic, bitcoin and cryptocurrency trading is the only form of services that can render people some amount of profits to survive in this crisis. It's no surprising people in Venezuela are now into bitcoin trading ....
Are you serious? Bitcoin is the only savior? How have we not gone extinct till now during the 100 crisis and 100 pandemics we're experienced? At least 95% of this planet hasn't touched Bitcoin even once, are you telling me they are not going to survive?
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this is the good thing we must look about the situation because the time banks are not around for sure crypto will boom and with just a push even our neighbor will use cryptocurrency specially Bitcoin. so Let us use this situation as advantage to advertise Bitcoin again to those who did not believe us in past. those people that we encourage but denies us,now they will find what we meant back then.
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this is obviously a click bait by a low quality website that keeps on publishing garbage. it is not a new thing either, in fact every couple of months we see the same exact news with the same exact mistake published by one of these garbage sites. it is partially because they look at the volume in Venezuelan local currency which has a very low value against USD which makes bitcoin price be ridiculously big against that. then obviously a small increase looks big in their eyes whereas if you convert that volume to USD or BTC you can see that it is minuscule in comparison.
with that said a volume increase during a big price move (both rise or fall doesn't make a difference) is obviously expected since a lot of people are selling and a lot of people are buying.
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March 20, 2020, 05:54:03 AM |
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As what we are facing right now, as COVID -19 is still spreading around the world, fiat currency is now not being used in other countries because of being afraid to have contact or interaction with others.
So the bitcoin or other different cryptocurrency is now being used in different countries, cryptocurrency is one of their way to purchase something or to do transactions because it all happens online, so they don't need to go outside just to do transactions with fiat currency, so by that as cryptocurrency is being used in every country especially in the country of Venezuela, the trading of bitcoin increases, well, I have expected that thing because there will be people who will use our current situation to earn money, by just increasing the trading of the bitcoin.
When bitcoin is mostly used by a country there will be a lot of investors, players, especially the traders or even those people who have bitcoin will increase trading to earn money.
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Even in my country as WHO already said that the virus can be transferred through fiat money.
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So the bitcoin or other different cryptocurrency is now being used in different countries, cryptocurrency is one of their way to purchase something or to do transactions because it all happens online, so they don't need to go outside just to do transactions with fiat currency, so by that as cryptocurrency is being used in every country especially in the country of Venezuela, the trading of bitcoin increases, well, I have expected that thing because there will be people who will use our current situation to earn money, by just increasing the trading of the bitcoin.
Bla bla bla..let make a 4 line paragraph of saying noting People making more transactions because of the virus? NOPE! https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/n-transactions?daysAverageString=7×pan=30days![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEcQJCQM.png&t=665&c=0Fm2CynfG_cksA) And some people were wondering who is still using coinbase... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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