StonerStanley Retarded Attempt At Extortion

[TECSHARE]

I got this wonderful PM today. Clearly he is learning from the example being set around here by the clown car. Behold, your retarded manipulative offspring.

Hello, since you put me in the untrust list then i gave you a negative feedback and i'll do the same with others accounts asap.

I'll remove it when you'll stop playing like that.

Another thing, i'll give you a bad reputation on my futur cryptocurrency gaming plateform if you continue to lie about me on this forum.

Cordialy.

StonerStanley   2020-03-19      "liar and manipulator"


~StonerStanley
~Virtualis Games

[AlexSimion]

He gave you negative feedback simply for distrusting him ? I don't know the history between you 2 but kind of agree that it's messed up.

Also what impact does the trust/distrust hold other  than being able to see more clearly the people who get tagged by them ? Is there something else that I'm missing ?

[TECSHARE]

He gave you negative feedback simply for distrusting him ? I don't know the history between you 2 but kind of agree that it's messed up.

Also what impact does the trust/distrust hold other  than being able to see more clearly the people who get tagged by them ? Is there something else that I'm missing ?

He is suddenly bothered because some one in my trust list has given him a negative rating previously, and since I have recently rejoined the default trust list, this is now visible on his account. He doesn't understand how any of this works. You might want to read this thread for further context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182530.0

[StonerStanley]

He gave you negative feedback simply for distrusting him ? I don't know the history between you 2 but kind of agree that it's messed up.

Also what impact does the trust/distrust hold other  than being able to see more clearly the people who get tagged by them ? Is there something else that I'm missing ?

I gave him a negative feedback because he put my name in the distrust list for no reason and he did the same with my second account Virtualis Games for no reason.

He put my name in the distrust list because i was trying to explain myself about a situation where TECshare made an error but TECshare was trying to make me close my mouth like a dishonest person. He put "ABitNut" in the trust list but this user abused of the feedback system since he gave me a negative feedback for "multi account" without any reason (muti account and what ? it makes me a scammer ?)

TECshare was playing a personal fight against "Vod" and others users while trying to "help me", but apparently it was more about his reputation than to really help me, as you can see right now again because it would be simplier to remove ABitNut from the list than making a thread, since ABitNut isn't  able to explain him.

So what if i make another account to present my project ? i'll get a negative feedback because i have another account to present my project and i'll get a big red ribbon saying that i'm a probable scammer. Nice.

I understand but there is some truths that should be said. Sorry. Even if i appreciate your help.

If my account bring back to the normal so i will continue to use it, otherwise i'll leave the forum until my project is finish

I understand why you feel that way but please understand, you are literally handing the worst people on the forum exactly what they wanted and reinforcing their behavior by letting them feel as if they got in the way of a resolution. You are free of course to handle this in any way you feel fit to, but at this point I have invested my time and reputation into solving your problem, and I would appreciate not being hamstrung right before it is potentially resolved over a flock of stalker retards with no intent other than to try to harass.

Hello again,

I know you are trying to help, but please, don't post for now. They are just trying to drag you into it so they can interrogate you. I promise this is more about them stalking me than it is about your topic. I want to help but if I have to manage two conversations instead of one it makes it more difficult. Don't worry these turds have been doing this to me for years, I know how to make them dance and I assure you none of this bothers me in the slightest.

[LoyceV]

I gave him a negative feedback because he put my name in the distrust list for no reason and he did the same with my second account Virtualis Games for no reason.

You're going at this the wrong way. Please start by reading LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (translated into 12 different languages, which shows broad community support for what I wrote).
First: anyone can include or exclude anyone they want. This isn't moderated, but more importantly: you shouldn't take it personally!
Anyone can also leave anyone any feedback they want. This too isn't moderated. However, if you ever want your feedback to mean something (by reaching DefaulTrust), you'll need others to include you, which they may do if they think you leave valid feedback.

He put my name in the distrust list because i was trying to explain myself about a situation where TECshare made an error but TECshare was trying to make me close my mouth like a dishonest person.

Again: you're taking the wrong approach. You could discuss this in a new Reputation thread, but none of this is a reason to leave negative feedback.

He put "ABitNut" in the trust list

TECSHARE included ABitNut more than a year ago. The only thing that changed is that TECSHARE reached DT1 recently.

but this user abused of the feedback system since he gave me a negative feedback for "multi account" without any reason (muti account and what ? it makes me a scammer ?)

I don't know. If you open a new topic for this, I'm willing to look into the evidence. But it still doesn't justify negative feedback.

[logfiles]

I gave him a negative feedback because he put my name in the distrust list for no reason and he did the same with my second account Virtualis Games for no reason.

He put my name in the distrust list because i was trying to explain myself about a situation where TECshare made an error but TECshare was trying to make me close my mouth like a dishonest person. He put "ABitNut" in the trust list but this user abused of the feedback system since he gave me a negative feedback for "multi account" without any reason (muti account and what ? it makes me a scammer ?)

Sending negative feedback because someone distrusted you is totally wrong... It's total abuse of the trust system and i would advise you to remove it because thing might backfire on you soon if other DT members start tagging you for sending unnecessary feedback.

A trust list is mostly based on what someone personally thinks of other people. You can't force them to change their opinion about you. You should have addressed this issue in another otherwise this is a fail.

[TECSHARE]

Let me summarize what happened for anyone who doesn't bother to read the thread or still doesn't follow after reading. Just before the thread linked above occurred, I was added back to the default trust list. His rating from ABitNut then became visible. StonerStanley PMed me asking for assistance.

Hello.

You put the ABitNut in your trust list so now my account have a negative trustable feedback from this user who is a liar and who abuse of the function.

Then if you want, i'm asking you to delist this person from your trustable list because i'm not an alt account and i have my project to present on the forum so i don't want to appear as untrustable.

This is the feedback he gave to me:

ABitNut   2014-07-08   Reference   This is an alt account, so whoever you're dealing with is hiding.

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

I then replied in the thread, first asking StonerStanley to remove the retaliatory rating he left, then attempting to contact ABitNut to see if he was willing to reconsider his rating. In the middle of this process, the usual clown car, now seeing I was on the default trust list again, and managed to just resolve a dispute involving several of the members of the Turkish community who they were actively trying to get removed from having any influence in the trust system, organized their usual 3 ring circus in an attempt to derail this mutually restorative solution I was attempting to mediate. They then used the thread as a venue to try to discredit me with fairy tales, fictions, and assumptions carefully crafted to impugn my character completely unrelated to the thread.

As a result one or two members then excluded me from their trust lists, specifically citing the accusations made in this thread, thus again removing me from the default trust list, and again making ABitNuts trust rating not visible. At this point StonerStanley got what he wanted, and didn't give a shit that my attempts to help him were being used as a vector of attack against me. He rejected my advice, became very indignant and rude, and then started attacking me himself. At this point, as he was the one asking me for help, and asking for my involvement, I rightfully told him to go fuck himself. He, not having any clue how the trust system worked, assumed he got everything he wanted and was happy to spit in the face of the only person actually trying to help him.

That brings us to now, when I am again back on the default trust list, and his negative rating from ABitNut is again visible, and he is upset because I refuse to comply with his demands after the way he acted, and essentially using his own negative ratings against me in a lame attempt to try to force me to remove ABitNut from my trust list.

TL;DR: He asked for help. I tried to help. He thought he got what he wanted, talked mad shit, attacked me, I suffered a hit to my own reputation as a result of the cumulative lies and attacks, and I told him to go fuck himself and that he would get no further assistance from me.

[actmyname]

Two wrongs do not make a right.

The purpose of retaliatory feedback is not amelioration of the situation. No, it is a grasp for pride - a meaningless pursuit of restitution - vengeance fuels further vengeance and begets suffering on both ends. Familiar with the tragedy of the commons? Even better, model it as a prisoner's dilemma with a trust matrix and you'll start to understand.Regardless of the instigator, if you choose to continue a pointless battle, you have no one to blame but yourself. Further coercion of other participants only drags the battle onward until you decide to finally step back, take a look at the bigger picture, and cease the indignant whining.

[StonerStanley]

I gave him a negative feedback because he put my name in the distrust list for no reason and he did the same with my second account Virtualis Games for no reason.

He put my name in the distrust list because i was trying to explain myself about a situation where TECshare made an error but TECshare was trying to make me close my mouth like a dishonest person. He put "ABitNut" in the trust list but this user abused of the feedback system since he gave me a negative feedback for "multi account" without any reason (muti account and what ? it makes me a scammer ?)

Sending negative feedback because someone distrusted you is totally wrong... It's total abuse of the trust system and i would advise you to remove it because thing might backfire on you soon if other DT members start tagging you for sending unnecessary feedback.

A trust list is mostly based on what someone personally thinks of other people. You can't force them to change their opinion about you. You should have addressed this issue in another otherwise this is a fail.

I'll remove it when he will remove ABitNut from the trust list because ABitNut is not a trustable person since he gave me a negative feedback for no reason and that i don't deserve a negative feedback. That is the TECshare fault if ABitNut is in this list. And anyway he talked to me like a little kid and a puppet, he disrespect me. I don't even understand how this guy can get a merit for this post with all he did.
Everything are in my "My Messages", any moderators can see how he talked to me like a puppet and how he disrespect the forum.

The fail is when you don't even understand the situation but you talk about it.

You should have addressed this issue in another otherwise this is a fail.

I didn't ?

I gave him a negative feedback because he put my name in the distrust list for no reason and he did the same with my second account Virtualis Games for no reason.

You're going at this the wrong way. Please start by reading LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (translated into 12 different languages, which shows broad community support for what I wrote).
First: anyone can include or exclude anyone they want. This isn't moderated, but more importantly: you shouldn't take it personally!
Anyone can also leave anyone any feedback they want. This too isn't moderated. However, if you ever want your feedback to mean something (by reaching DefaulTrust), you'll need others to include you, which they may do if they think you leave valid feedback.

He put my name in the distrust list because i was trying to explain myself about a situation where TECshare made an error but TECshare was trying to make me close my mouth like a dishonest person.

Again: you're taking the wrong approach. You could discuss this in a new Reputation thread, but none of this is a reason to leave negative feedback.

He put "ABitNut" in the trust list

TECSHARE included ABitNut more than a year ago. The only thing that changed is that TECSHARE reached DT1 recently.

but this user abused of the feedback system since he gave me a negative feedback for "multi account" without any reason (muti account and what ? it makes me a scammer ?)

I don't know. If you open a new topic for this, I'm willing to look into the evidence. But it still doesn't justify negative feedback.

At the begginning i contacted TECShare but he talked to me like a puppet and a kid, told me to shut my mouth while trying to help me at the same time (he should start to learn how to control himself before trying to control a keyboard). I made a thread to ask why i have a negative reputation at the same time and he took it personnally because he understood his fault, he tried to defend his own reputation using me and i repeat: he told me to shut my mouth.

You are moderator? Check my private messages, and check how he talked to me.

I already read your link.

[logfiles]

I'll remove it when he will remove ABitNut from the trust list because ABitNut is not a trustable person since he gave me a negative feedback for no reason and that i don't deserve a negative feedback. That is the TECshare fault if ABitNut is in this list. And anyway he talked to me like a little kid and a puppet, he disrespect me. I don't even understand how this guy can get a merit for this post with all he did.
Everything are in my "My Messages", any moderators can see how he talked to me like a puppet and how he disrespect the forum.

The fail is when you don't even understand the situation but you talk about it.

I definitely understand the situation and what you did is absolutely wrong.
Let me just give an example.
If I included LoyceV in my trust list, and LoyceV wrongfully left you a negative feedback, do you think it's morally right for you to leave me a negative feedback just because LoyceV is in my trust list ...that's exactly what you are doing... TECshare hasn't scammed you, has he?

Stop misusing trust ratings.

[suchmoon]

I'll remove it when he will remove ABitNut from the trust list because ABitNut is not a trustable person since he gave me a negative feedback for no reason and that i don't deserve a negative feedback.

Exclude ABitNut from your trust list and appeal to others to do so if you have a strong case. Don't send PMs to people asking them to modify their trust lists for your benefit, but most importantly don't use red trust in this situation - it won't resolve your issue... we have enough bullshit retaliatory ratings courtesy of OgNasty and other morons.

[nutildah]

I'll remove it when he will remove ABitNut from the trust list because ABitNut is not a trustable person since he gave me a negative feedback for no reason and that i don't deserve a negative feedback. That is the TECshare fault if ABitNut is in this list.

You had a chance to help yourself out earlier when you PM'd ABitNut, but you blew it:

I've not been active on this forum for long. But I got a notification that I had a private message so I checked it out:

Few years ago you gave me a wrong feedback "untrust" saying that i'm an altcoin which is false. Now i gave you one negative feedback too saying that you are a scammer.

Delete your sh*t.

I checked the feedback I left. Yes, I called you out for being an alt account years ago. And that's exactly what my feedback means. I (as an individual) was convinced that the person that controlled your account had multiple accounts.

Now I'd be open to reasonable arguments but:

1) Your message to me is rude
2) You're abusing the trust system by leaving false feedback
3) You're accusing me of being a scammer

So I'm disinclined to oblige your request.

Have a nice weekend.

You can't talk to people that way if you want them to do something nice for you.

He's the one that referenced his rating to try and get an action from me.  I blocked him PMs and moved on.

You did not "move on." You left him a negative trust and called him a scammer. So much for anybody attempting to be the bigger man.

[LoyceV]

You are moderator?

No, it doesn't say so under my name.

Check my private messages, and check how he talked to me.

As far as I know, Moderators can't read other user's PMs. Only Admin can, and I'm pretty sure they won't bother to read it.

I already read your link.

Great! Now act on it

[StonerStanley]

I'll remove it when he will remove ABitNut from the trust list because ABitNut is not a trustable person since he gave me a negative feedback for no reason and that i don't deserve a negative feedback. That is the TECshare fault if ABitNut is in this list.

You had a chance to help yourself out earlier when you PM'd ABitNut, but you blew it:

I've not been active on this forum for long. But I got a notification that I had a private message so I checked it out:

Few years ago you gave me a wrong feedback "untrust" saying that i'm an altcoin which is false. Now i gave you one negative feedback too saying that you are a scammer.

Delete your sh*t.

I checked the feedback I left. Yes, I called you out for being an alt account years ago. And that's exactly what my feedback means. I (as an individual) was convinced that the person that controlled your account had multiple accounts.

Now I'd be open to reasonable arguments but:

1) Your message to me is rude
2) You're abusing the trust system by leaving false feedback
3) You're accusing me of being a scammer

So I'm disinclined to oblige your request.

Have a nice weekend.

You can't talk to people that way if you want them to do something nice for you.

He's the one that referenced his rating to try and get an action from me.  I blocked him PMs and moved on.

You did not "move on." You left him a negative trust and called him a scammer. So much for anybody attempting to be the bigger man.

So he can disrespect me but i can't disrespect him ? You are a very dishonest person.
You had a chance to not get a negative feedback from me, but you blew it. According to the fact you are not a trustable person because you have a sens of the morality that is very wrong by defending someone who disrespect me.

(since i give up this account you can do what you want )

[nutildah]

You had a chance to not get a negative feedback from me, but you blew it.

https://youtu.be/Y9KyBdPeKHg?t=25

[GazetaBitcoin]

Following the example given by his pal Timelord, TECSHARE started 7 weeks ago to distrust me.

On March 27th, 2020 I PMed him, kindly asking to le me know what led to this decision. I stated that I'm not interested in changing his decision, just to tell me why.

He never replied.

However, I didn't distrust him back, nor gave him any feedback.

[TECSHARE]

You the fraud and dishonest person are talking about a fraud ? 



(when i read this forum i'm forced to come back because you are so fun. I'm still watching at you... for a very long time, very very.... for about what you did to my account. don't make any public business over internet)

More retarded threats. I didn't do anything to you. You did this all to yourself.

[NotATether]

Public Service Announcement: Trust lists are supposed to be decentralized. That means if people are excluding whoever they want from their lists, the trust system is working as designed.

Exclusions means someone doesn't trust your judgement of decisionmaking. It would be insane to force someone to trust your judgement, and will only keep you excluded from their list.

[nutildah]

Normally I don't publish peoples' PMs if I suspect they are being anything less than a total dick, but:

So you start playing the manipulator too when you don't even know the history.

Well, my more than 10 others accounts that is gonna grow will give you more than 10 negatives feedback in the next year (since i have unique IP for each of them, good luck). I'll even make more because i see that you have 7 positive feedback for in the times it could grow too. Since the feedback and merit aren't moderated then you'll eat that nicely.

Hope you gonna enjoy it. Next time talk with people before playing like that without knowing who insulted the first.

(TECSHARE tried to shut my mouth off because he was ashamed than he put the wrong person in the trusted list and that person gaved me a negative feedback for nothing so this person shouldn't be in that list, he tried to defends himself about this fact but he fucked up by insulting me in PM because i made a post to ask why someone put this person in the trusted list, and everyone has seen that it was TECHSHARE and that he fucked up.... Too much narcissic to admit that he fucked up so it's me who paid the price)



You are very dishonnest and you abuse of your power here because you have no power in real life. The fact is that i can do that too but differently and with more time.

See you later.


 

I tagged this guy for harassing DT members, which I consider to be a tag-able offense. He clearly has no idea how the trust system works. He also doesn't suspect that I won't figure out who his alts are based on his threat to tag me with them.

Oh wait a minute, I just received another gem from him:

Just one thing, as a old school hacker with some skill in defensive and offensive security, i just would like to tell
you that you should avoid to show a pic of your going at the Iowa state university in 2014, over internet, when few years later
you are playing the cowboy  

See you later.

Wow. Its like, no shit dummy. Everybody can see that post. He sure is mouthy for a guy who said he would

give up this account

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Normally I don't publish peoples' PMs if I suspect they are being anything less than a total dick, but:
<snip>

A PM like that ought to be made public IMO, so you'll get zero criticism from me for quoting it here.

I tagged this guy for harassing DT members, which I consider to be a tag-able offense.

I have to admit that I don't know the entire situation, since I can't seem to muster up the patience to read this thread from start to finish, but I'd say you're right to tag him.  The dude seems hostile, volatile, and ultimately untrustworthy--and that's what the trust system is for.