DT1 and DT2 members who have negative feedback (or are banned)

[Timelord2067]

    1. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (1) 1566 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

I have not checked the rest of this list, but I see a mismatch for this profile if you view this account using the prefix OgNasty:DT, ( +92 / =3 / -6).

I don't know for sure when you update the data, but I suspect the discrepancy may be caused by the fact that just before the update, I temporarily liquidated my list of mistrust (which included several inactive profiles whose reviews could affect OgNasty's trust rating). I mean that the remote trust list is displayed in the database and OG's correct rating is not.

That might have something to do with your use of a colon in your example as opposed to a semi colon.  If you can mistype it in your example, then it's likely to have occurred on your computer too.

And, around that same time you changed your own DT settings as exampled by BPIP:

10/29/2021 9:33:15 PM    DT1 membership    icopress DT1 is selected into DT1
10/29/2021 9:17:03 PM    DT1 membership    icopress DT1 is no longer selected into DT1

(the only way you would fall off of DT mid month is if you yourself have removed your own DT list (as has been proven to occur elsewhere))   

[LoyceV]

(the only way you would fall off of DT mid month is if you yourself have removed your own DT list (as has been proven to occur elsewhere))   

That doesn't remove a user from DT1, only from BPIP's DefaultTrust Change Log.

[nutildah]

Sorry Loyce I just needed to clarify something.

(the only way you would fall off of DT mid month is if you yourself have removed your own DT list (as has been proven to occur elsewhere))  

I've always been curious. Well since I noticed it. Why do you call it a "DT list"? Its just a "T" list as the "D" stands for "default" whereas personal trust inclusions are not "default trust", by default.

Its a bit bizarre because in the first half of the sentence above you use "DT" correctly. Just wondering what your logic was behind calling every personal trust list a "default trust" list.

[Timelord2067]

(the only way you would fall off of DT mid month is if you yourself have removed your own DT list (as has been proven to occur elsewhere))  

That doesn't remove a user from DT1, only from BPIP's DefaultTrust Change Log.

I stand corrected on that point.

[LoyceV]

     1. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (7) 1574 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 465017: actmyname (Trust: +18 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (18) 1430 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 23324: Balthazar (Trust: +3 / =1 / -2) (356 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 30541: lightlord (Trust: +4 / =4 / -4) (211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +20 / =2 / -2) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 38894: SaltySpitoon (Trust: +22 / =1 / -1) (1149 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 44611: silverfuture (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (8 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 54113: BCB (Trust: +4 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 65317: bigtimespaghetti (Trust: +21 / =0 / -1) (57 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +27 / =2 / -2) (1306 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 125517: shadallion (Trust: +5 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 140827: yogg (Trust: +31 / =0 / -1) (1858 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 147451: klaaas (Trust: +10 / =0 / -1) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 224980: cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 235982: mindtrip (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 249495: Cøbra (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (459 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +41 / =0 / -2) (520 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 316604: CryptoImperator (Trust: +29 / =1 / -3) (237 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 487377: Kalemder (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1209 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 520313: Lutpin (Trust: +33 / =2 / -1) (868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 795961: cryptoheadd (Trust: +20 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 881377: Hhampuz (Trust: +108 / =3 / -1) (3203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 897123: Nevsky (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 1045391: kryme (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 1073450: Best_Change (Trust: +21 / =6 / -2) (748 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 1239188: Bttzed03 (Trust: #  +0 / =1 / -1) (1005 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. 1316749: MoxnatyShmel (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (362 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. 1478835: MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +32 / =0 / -1) (1135 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. 1668017: anonymousminer (Trust: +36 / =0 / -1) (1124 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. 2542787: N0sferatu (Trust: +3 / =1 / -1) (78 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. 2627711: Ratimov (Trust: +15 / =0 / -1) (5304 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[icopress]

The display of Hhampuz's trust rating is not correct (I do not see the red tag even with the DT prefix). This is certainly not my business, but maybe you should think about how to transfer the weekly dump from Thursday to Friday? By the way ... when will you change the order of the donator names? If the first in the list is the name of the one who made the last donation, then I suppose there will be much more money for hosting.  

[LoyceV]

The display of Hhampuz's trust rating is not correct (I do not see the red tag even with the DT prefix).

There are 7 more users with negative feedback on the list than last week. Vod dropped off, but currently has negative feedback from DT again. Many others (for instance actmyname and anonymousminer) are on the list but currently don't have negative feedback from DT.
I got intrigued, and found out what happened: 5 days ago, rxalts was added to DT1, which added Fattcatt to DT2. That made the negative feedback left by Fattcatt show up by default until DarkStar_ excluded Fattcatt (today). So my list was correct (and it can be used as a weekly check on possible discrepancies in the Trust system).

This is certainly not my business, but maybe you should think about how to transfer the weekly dump from Thursday to Friday?

I can't really change this: I have many profiles to check, and Fridays are used for my Merit data scraping already. I don't want to run those at the same time because of forum scraping restrictions.

will you change the order of the donator names? If the first in the list is the name of the one who made the last donation

You mean on loyce.club? I can do that, if I ever have the time to add a decent design. Probably right before the new forum software goes live.

[LoyceV]

Update:
     1. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (7) 1581 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 23324: Balthazar (Trust: +3 / =1 / -2) (356 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 30541: lightlord (Trust: +4 / =4 / -4) (211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 30747: Vod (Trust: +26 / =2 / -1) (1929 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +20 / =2 / -1) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 38894: SaltySpitoon (Trust: +22 / =1 / -1) (1149 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 44611: silverfuture (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (8 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 54113: BCB (Trust: +4 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 65317: bigtimespaghetti (Trust: +21 / =0 / -1) (57 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +27 / =2 / -2) (1306 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 125517: shadallion (Trust: +5 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 147451: klaaas (Trust: +10 / =0 / -1) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 224980: cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 235982: mindtrip (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 249495: Cøbra (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (459 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +41 / =0 / -1) (527 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 316604: CryptoImperator (Trust: +29 / =1 / -3) (237 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 487377: Kalemder (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1209 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 520313: Lutpin (Trust: +33 / =2 / -1) (868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 795961: cryptoheadd (Trust: +20 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 897123: Nevsky (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 1045391: kryme (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 1073450: Best_Change (Trust: +21 / =6 / -2) (748 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 1239188: Bttzed03 (Trust: #  +0 / =1 / -1) (1005 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 1316749: MoxnatyShmel (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (362 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 1478835: MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +32 / =0 / -1) (1142 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. 2542787: N0sferatu (Trust: +3 / =1 / -1) (78 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. 2627711: Ratimov (Trust: +15 / =0 / -1) (5362 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[LoyceV]

Update:
     1. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (7) 1590 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 23324: Balthazar (Trust: +3 / =1 / -2) (356 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 30541: lightlord (Trust: +4 / =4 / -4) (211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 30747: Vod (Trust: +26 / =2 / -1) (1929 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +20 / =2 / -1) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 38894: SaltySpitoon (Trust: +22 / =1 / -1) (1149 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 44611: silverfuture (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (8 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 54113: BCB (Trust: +4 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 65317: bigtimespaghetti (Trust: +21 / =0 / -1) (57 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +27 / =2 / -2) (1306 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 125517: shadallion (Trust: +5 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 147451: klaaas (Trust: +10 / =0 / -1) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 224980: cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 235982: mindtrip (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 249495: Cøbra (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (459 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +41 / =0 / -1) (528 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 316604: CryptoImperator (Trust: +29 / =1 / -3) (237 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 487377: Kalemder (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 520313: Lutpin (Trust: +33 / =2 / -1) (868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 795961: cryptoheadd (Trust: +20 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 897123: Nevsky (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 1045391: kryme (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 1073450: Best_Change (Trust: +21 / =6 / -1) (754 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 1239188: Bttzed03 (Trust: #  +0 / =1 / -1) (1005 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 1316749: MoxnatyShmel (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (362 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 1478835: MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +32 / =0 / -1) (1151 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. 2542787: N0sferatu (Trust: +3 / =1 / -1) (78 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. 2627711: Ratimov (Trust: +15 / =0 / -1) (5497 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[LoyceV]

Update:
    1. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (8) 1600 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    2. 23324: Balthazar (Trust: +3 / =1 / -2) (357 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    3. 30541: lightlord (Trust: +4 / =4 / -4) (211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    4. 30747: Vod (Trust: +26 / =2 / -1) (1929 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    5. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +20 / =2 / -1) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    6. 38894: SaltySpitoon (Trust: +22 / =1 / -1) (1149 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    7. 44611: silverfuture (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (8 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    8. 54113: BCB (Trust: +4 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    9. 65317: bigtimespaghetti (Trust: +21 / =0 / -1) (57 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   10. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +27 / =2 / -2) (1306 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   11. 125517: shadallion (Trust: +5 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   12. 147451: klaaas (Trust: +10 / =0 / -1) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   13. 224980: cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   14. 235982: mindtrip (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   15. 249495: Cøbra (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (459 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   16. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +41 / =0 / -1) (532 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   17. 316604: CryptoImperator (Trust: +29 / =1 / -3) (237 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   18. 487377: Kalemder (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   19. 520313: Lutpin (Trust: +33 / =2 / -1) (868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   20. 795961: cryptoheadd (Trust: +20 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   21. 897123: Nevsky (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   22. 906410: Fattcatt (Trust: +11 / =0 / -5) (103 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) << It looks like this user was on DT2 only shortly
   23. 1045391: kryme (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   24. 1073450: Best_Change (Trust: +21 / =6 / -1) (766 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   25. 1239188: Bttzed03 (Trust: #  +0 / =1 / -1) (1008 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   26. 1316749: MoxnatyShmel (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (363 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   27. 1478835: MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +32 / =0 / -1) (1153 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   28. 2542787: N0sferatu (Trust: +3 / =1 / -1) (78 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   29. 2627711: Ratimov (Trust: +15 / =0 / -1) (5557 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[LoyceV]

Update (DT1 got updated too, but Trust scores were scraped before this update):
    1. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (2) 1604 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    2. 23324: Balthazar (Trust: +3 / =1 / -2) (DT1! (3) 357 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    3. 30747: Vod (Trust: +26 / =2 / -1) (1929 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    4. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +20 / =2 / -1) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    5. 38894: SaltySpitoon (Trust: +22 / =1 / -1) (1149 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    6. 44611: silverfuture (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (8 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    7. 51625: FAN (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    8. 54113: BCB (Trust: +4 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    9. 65317: bigtimespaghetti (Trust: +21 / =0 / -1) (57 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   10. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +27 / =2 / -2) (1306 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   11. 101872: Lauda (Trust: +36 / =17 / -7) (1903 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   12. 125517: shadallion (Trust: +5 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   13. 137773: BayAreaCoins (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (217 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   14. 147451: klaaas (Trust: +10 / =0 / -1) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   15. 224980: cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   16. 235982: mindtrip (Trust: +13 / =0 / -1) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   17. 249495: Cøbra (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (459 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   18. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +41 / =0 / -1) (542 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   19. 357170: Fakhoury (Trust: +5 / =0 / -2) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   20. 487377: Kalemder (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   21. 520313: Lutpin (Trust: +33 / =2 / -1) (868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   22. 795961: cryptoheadd (Trust: +20 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   23. 1045391: kryme (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   24. 1073450: Best_Change (Trust: +21 / =6 / -1) (773 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   25. 1239188: Bttzed03 (Trust: #  +0 / =1 / -1) (1010 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   26. 1478835: MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +32 / =0 / -1) (1170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   27. 2627711: Ratimov (Trust: +15 / =0 / -1) (5722 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[LoyceV]

Out of date data.

I'm aware:

Trust scores were scraped before this update

After the recent DT1 lottery, I no longer have any negative tag, but why I continue to appear in this ranking.

I only scrape Trust scores for all users (who have or are on a custom Trust list) once a week.

I still see far too many users who use negative feedback without a valid reason, which means negative feedback itself loses it's meaning.

[LoyceV]

Update:
     1. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +88 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (2) 1614 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 23324: Balthazar (Trust: +4 / =1 / -1) (DT1! (3) 358 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 30747: Vod (Trust: +28 / =2 / -2) (1929 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +21 / =2 / -1) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 38894: SaltySpitoon (Trust: +26 / =1 / -1) (1149 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 40976: DeaDTerra (Trust: +2 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 44611: silverfuture (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (8 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 51625: FAN (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 54113: BCB (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 65317: bigtimespaghetti (Trust: +23 / =0 / -1) (57 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +27 / =0 / -2) (1306 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 101872: Lauda (Trust: +35 / =17 / -6) (1903 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 125517: shadallion (Trust: +5 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 137773: BayAreaCoins (Trust: +14 / =1 / -2) (218 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 140584: EFS (Trust: +9 / =1 / -1) (267 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 147451: klaaas (Trust: +11 / =0 / -1) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 224980: cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 235982: mindtrip (Trust: +14 / =0 / -1) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 249495: Cøbra (Trust: +3 / =2 / -1) (459 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +45 / =0 / -1) (548 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 357170: Fakhoury (Trust: +5 / =0 / -2) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 487377: Kalemder (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (1210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 520313: Lutpin (Trust: +35 / =2 / -1) (868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 795961: cryptoheadd (Trust: +20 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 1045391: kryme (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 1071136: PHI1618 (Trust: #  +2 / =2 / -1) (1230 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. 1073450: Best_Change (Trust: +21 / =6 / -1) (825 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. 1239188: Bttzed03 (Trust: #  +0 / =1 / -2) (1010 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. 1478835: MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +36 / =0 / -1) (1170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. 2530429: RapTarX (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (689 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[suchmoon]

Appeal to DT1 members: please exclude silverfuture https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44611

• Red-trusted TMAN for an opinion.
• Included by only one DT1 member who has a grudge against TMAN. Also self-scratching.
• Inactive.

[Timelord2067]

Appeal to DT1 members: please exclude silverfuture https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44611

• Red-trusted TMAN for an opinion.

Context:

Back in 2018:

TMAN

2018-01-06

Left me a negative for stating facts about nastfans.. these idiots are brainwashed

• Included by only one DT1 member who has a grudge against TMAN. Also self-scratching.

Context:

Back in 2013:

OgNasty

2013-07-15

Great operator and trustworthy individual. A real asset to the community.

• Inactive.

Are you sure it's not just because nutildah "no longer distrusts silverfuture" (as a DT1) that you are making this appeal?  Doesn't silverfuture trust OgNasty (whom you distrust)

Trust list for: OgNasty (Trust: +88 / =3 / -6) (DT1! (2) 1614 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-12-11_Sat_05.07h)
Back to index

~OgNasty's judgement is Distrusted by:
20. suchmoon (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (5891 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

But the real question is why haven't you distrusted silverfuture yourself, yet you ask others to do so for you?

[icopress]

But the real question is why haven't you distrusted silverfuture yourself, yet you ask others to do so for you?

Probably because he is DT2 (and the next update of Loyce.club will be only in a week).

Not sure if DT2 member exceptions show up in the BPIP registry.

[suchmoon]

Are you sure it's not just because nutildah "no longer distrusts silverfuture" (as a DT1) that you are making this appeal?  Doesn't silverfuture trust OgNasty (whom you distrust)

I don't know what this has to do with nutildah. People come and go in DT1 every month. I just happened to notice the bullshit DT2 rating on TMAN.

But the real question is why haven't you distrusted silverfuture yourself, yet you ask others to do so for you?

I'm not in DT1 and silverfuture is not in my trust network, so my exclusion wouldn't mean anything. Also this does nothing "for me".

[LoyceV]

Not sure if DT2 member exceptions show up in the BPIP registry.

Nope. The best way to check anyone's Trust list is by adding only that user to your own Trust list (without DefaultTrust), and checking Depth 1. Don't use a DT1-account to test this!

[examplens]

But the real question is why haven't you distrusted silverfuture yourself, yet you ask others to do so for you?

I'm not in DT1 and silverfuture is not in my trust network, so my exclusion wouldn't mean anything. Also this does nothing "for me".

You're not in DT1 this month, why not add them maybe in the next election you will be in DT1 so it will have an effect.
here I added ~silverfuture to my list (as DT1). OgNasty has been on my ~ list since before

[icopress]

You're not in DT1 this month, why not add them maybe in the next election you will be in DT1 so it will have an effect. [...]

What's the point of this? You could just as well say that next month OgNasty will not be on the DT1 list, so silverfuture's feedback will not be anything.

Edited: Maybe let's get back to talking about this? ^{[quote ]} ... since this problem seems to me more urgent than self-scratching.

Not that it bothers me much, but I want to raise a rhetorical question about the monthly DT elections .. I see a tendency in mutual inclusion and exclusion on the basis of solidarity or revenge. So, users who, for one reason or another, were excluded from DT show solidarity, thereby pushing each other up the stairs, (0, +1).

There are more and more such users, and this becomes a problem, since out of a sense of revenge they exclude those who used the tilde against them. While it may seem like the right move for the average user to exclude people who abuse the trust system, this does not mean that the user will do so, since this step will lead to massive mutual exclusions (we can see how this looks like in mindrust's example).

I just want to say that the problem is that due to the lack of a counterweight, the most common user on DT1 will think twice about using the tilde or not. It seems to me that the simplest and most reasonable solution may be the coordinated actions of 3-5 volunteers that will maintain the balance according to the principle: until another DT1 member makes an exception/inclusion, or the user personally requests an exception from the DT1 network. Although, it all depends on the point of view, since I am sure that from a different angle it may also seem like interference (in the sense that, by and large, such actions will not differ in any way from those discussed)